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6/22/2011 11:33:58   
AQWPlayer
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Don't you think the NPCs are a bit too overpowered? First, agility doesn't apply to the NPCs, so they can have tons of health without penalty. Second, I have counted, and I figured that the shadow guard's field medic has a TWO turn cooldown, which probably applies to other NPCs as well. Third, they can have skills from all three classes and also have high strength, health, energy, and defenses at the same time. So what do you think about this?
AQW  Post #: 1
6/22/2011 11:38:23   
TurkishIncubus
Member

they seem Oped because you are non varium , its 3 turns to kill Shadow guard with varium

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Epic  Post #: 2
6/22/2011 11:40:31   
Silver Sky Magician
Member


NPCs are pretty easy...but I do want to question their ridiculously high chances of critting. *ahem* Valery *ahem*
Post #: 3
6/22/2011 11:49:42   
goldslayer1
Member

@silver
u forgot bio hazard too.
AQW Epic  Post #: 4
6/22/2011 11:49:52   
AQWPlayer
Member

quote:

they seem Oped because you are non varium , its 3 turns to kill Shadow guard with varium

That's for a level 33 full varium player like you :P
quote:

NPCs are pretty easy...but I do want to question their ridiculously high chances of critting. *ahem* Valery *ahem*

Their chance of critting is not ridiculously high lol. Just that I wonder why marauder hulk crits me on berzerker and double strike
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@silver
u forgot bio hazard too.

Bio Hazard's cheap shot has a 25% chance to crit, but the real chance to crit is like 75%

< Message edited by AQWPlayer -- 6/22/2011 11:51:38 >
AQW  Post #: 5
6/22/2011 12:07:54   
Xendran
Member

I normally don't say this about things being overpowered but....
Deal with it.
They are optional and are not the main purpose of the game, therefore they do not have to abide by the rules of the game.
I prefer npcs to be hard, potentially to the extreme to the point where the battle is stacked against you completely (preferably in real time games where skill is more required than luck, however)
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 6
6/22/2011 12:11:36   
Chosen 0ne
Banned


it takes me like 6 or 7 turns for shadow gaurd...
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 7
6/22/2011 12:14:38   
AQWPlayer
Member

@Xendran
I can understand you don't care about the NPCs being OP because you can win battles as a varium player. But I am non varium, so NPC is my best choice.
AQW  Post #: 8
6/22/2011 12:17:47   
DeathGuard
Member

They are not OP, maybe only NW then no other npc is hard to defeat. Im a varium player but is take skill to kill them, I know you can find a way to beat them easier aqwplayer.
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 9
6/22/2011 12:19:12   
AQWPlayer
Member

@cyberbakio
Seriously, the NPCs are OP for their level. I can beat them because I am many levels higher.
AQW  Post #: 10
6/22/2011 12:21:30   
Xendran
Member

Having trouble with npcs? kill lower levelled ones.
Like i said, they are not the main purpose of the game, they do not have to play by the rules.
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 11
6/22/2011 12:23:37   
AQWPlayer
Member

quote:

Like i said, they are not the main purpose of the game, they do not have to play by the rules.

Somebody bring the ban hammer! Time to ban some NPCs
AQW  Post #: 12
6/22/2011 13:12:36   
Epic Pwnser
Member

NPC's are overpowered for lower lvls. Valery for example

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Epic  Post #: 13
6/22/2011 13:27:02   
PumKing
Member

npc's are supposed to be a little bit oped, this is because they ONLY do a set type of moves, it is VERY predictable, it is rather troublesom how some crit more than others, but once again, predictablility, my personal, and only qualm (now that the npc's were balanced, for npc's, from the decreaseing effect that stat pts do on stats) is that they ALL have a 2 turn cool down instead of 3 for feild medic, if the devs fix that, then i really wouldnt see a problem,

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Epic  Post #: 14
6/22/2011 13:30:18   
Sipping Cider
Member

Although NPCs may seem OPed at first, if you think about it anyone, varium or not, should be able to beat their level NPCs.

You have rage, and they don't.

You know their build so you can plan out your build to beat them.

During battle, you have strategy while they have routine (as far as i know. They might be programmed to do random moves).
Epic  Post #: 15
6/22/2011 13:40:35   
TurkishIncubus
Member

Also you need to use energy atacks on Shadow guard , if you still cant win SG with energy atacks + Varium in atleast 4 turns than you should change your build :S
Epic  Post #: 16
6/22/2011 13:55:40   
AQWPlayer
Member

Valery double gun-critted me O.O

Profanity removed, please do not swear, even in acronym form. ~Illuminator

< Message edited by Illuminator -- 6/22/2011 15:13:50 >
AQW  Post #: 17
6/22/2011 13:58:27   
TurkishIncubus
Member

^

Also use energy atacks on Valery and it always crits
Epic  Post #: 18
6/22/2011 14:03:05   
AQWPlayer
Member

^
She almost never crits me O_O
AQW  Post #: 19
6/22/2011 18:17:34   
Xx. Christian .xX
Member

the npcs arent overpowered if u need help with the boss build u can try mines

i uses 5 focus build it will also work if ur a non-varium but im not sure if it will work to big tuna and slayer and gl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPFmaIXA5Gg

u can also use that on the normal npcs

< Message edited by reyes 89 -- 6/22/2011 18:44:08 >
Post #: 20
6/22/2011 18:20:52   
Wraith
Member
 

^You are way off-topic.

Well, as you are a mage, why not get FULL ENERGY ATTACKS for NPCs? My 5 focus basically malf-robo-assim-aux on Valery. On Shadow Guard its Malf-Pistol-Aux-Robot-Pistol unless he's already dead :D.
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 21
6/22/2011 18:53:50   
PumKing
Member

Another thing, if you are just REALLY having a tuff time with npcs, you can check the ED wiki sites on google, just type in "epic duel npc battle strategy wiki" and BAM!! you can look at the general build of every npc, and most (i believe one or two still don't have them for all) have class specific builds to deal with them as well. But like I said before, if feild medic was taken away from everyone to take 3 turns to cool down, then so should npcs <-- I repeat this because if it weren't for that I would have saved myself a considerable amount of battle tokens and killed BigTuna the 3rd time I challenged her, instead of about the 19 time I challenged her
Epic  Post #: 22
6/22/2011 19:22:15   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

@Thesunguardian Not really true. Many NPCs at low levels are very hard. That is why most people NPC once they get to higher levels. Look at thecowgirl(I forgot her name) she has like over 100 HP and EP and she is only level 15. Not to mention the Heavy Gaurds who are level 10-15 with high health for low players and good damage.
AQW Epic  Post #: 23
6/22/2011 20:23:34   
One Winged Angel1357
Member


NPC's seem OP'ed becuae they don't have to follow the same rules we do point and case Titan is a Mage Merc combo
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 24
6/23/2011 0:00:11   
BlueKatz
Member

They aren't OP, but at mid level tey are so strong. It's just really weird how they ignore cooldown and stuff like that, they break crit cap too I think
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