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1/3/2012 10:46:08   
MirageD
Member

i listened to the live stream from char, lycus and practel and a few things surprised me.....please correct me if i'm wrong....i got the impression that char, lycus and practel hardly ever even play ED except to do their testing.....i thought char said she didn't even prefer pvp games? she's a great artist...don't get me wrong....i'm wondering if they ever get online, other than the test server on thursdays/fridays

i was a bit surprised???....i mean i know most of our forum mods don't play ED....but do the testers and mods play much?....i know some mods play regularly but i'm now thinking the majority don't.....and i haven't seen a developer online in forever....i do see that most are on AQW quite regularly

are we fairly represented by our staff?....is this maybe why major problems aren't getting fixed?.....discuss....
AQW Epic  Post #: 1
1/3/2012 10:58:27   
Fay Beeee
Member

Good Question MirageD?

I can imagine that their time is very very busy, so may be they do not play that much any more. I still see them occasionally in game. Then they are normally swamped with people and questions. So it must be difficult.

I will watch this for an answer though,

< Message edited by Fay Beeee -- 1/3/2012 11:19:57 >

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Epic  Post #: 2
1/3/2012 11:03:20   
Nightly
Member

The artists don't "necessarily" have to play the game. After all, all they do is create the things that they're told. I don't mean that to be rather blunt, but it is true. The only devs that should be on frequently are the main devs since they're the ones that do a good amount of work.

Also, don't forget that they don't "need" to play in order to represent you. They can represent you just fine by reading posts such as yours that outline details within the game that players have qualms about. Furthermore, in-game I'm sure there are plenty of people running around that can pass on the comments of the majority to the staff.

AQW has a large staff turn-out in the game because a large majority of forum higher-ups, such as the Aks and Mods, have Moderation over there. Don't forget, also, that AQW has a larger staff which makes it easier for them to take such breaks and go onto the game for a short period of time to just enjoy what they've created.
Post #: 3
1/3/2012 11:11:32   
Xendran
Member

Why aren't major problems being fixed?
Lower profits.
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 4
1/3/2012 11:22:57   
Fay Beeee
Member

As I understood the post from MirageD, it was not the representation she was enquiring about, it was the testing feature?

And thinking about it, may be they are only testing that the new items (etc) work correctly. Not how the game is played.?
Epic  Post #: 5
1/3/2012 11:29:20   
MirageD
Member

true fay.... i'm concerned that the game experience isn't getting properly experienced by the ppl who can adjust it....how can you understand game play if you don't actually play the game???....i mean it's one thing to test new releases...but if you don't understand the true affects...what good is that?
AQW Epic  Post #: 6
1/3/2012 11:47:04   
Wootz
Member

Lycus does.
About the other two, I'm not sure.
AQW Epic  Post #: 7
1/3/2012 11:52:43   
Remorse
Member

Maybe its a.matter of prority,
Perhaps content is substitured for tested balance adjustments in attempts to make more players happy, even though most arnt because of balance not content though some players dont even realise its poor balanve making them so.
The poor devs can.t win

< Message edited by Remorse -- 1/3/2012 11:57:36 >
Epic  Post #: 8
1/3/2012 12:00:13   
MirageD
Member

my concern is....if you don't play the game it's hard to see the effects of minor adjustments to things like weapon and armor stats....quite frankly, i've never seen any of these testers in 2v2, which can be greatly effected by some minor changes in stats....just wondering if we have a testing staff that actually plays the game....or for that matter...a moderator staff, both forums and game, that actually plays the game?

btw....i don't know who you are nightly....welcome to the ED forums....hope you play the game :)

< Message edited by MirageD -- 1/3/2012 20:08:37 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 9
1/3/2012 12:06:17   
Remorse
Member

Very true,
2v2 seems to be neglected to my knowledge by testetss.
Epic  Post #: 10
1/3/2012 12:47:15   
Lycus
Legendary AdventureGuide!


 I actually never got to answer that question, since the discussion moved on before I got a chance. Truth is, I play when ever possible, but testing does take a lot of time up. I've played through this game from Level 1 to around 30-ish a few times, and make sure to log on every time I can. Testing usually takes up all my time on Thursday and Friday for Friday releases, and takes bits of my time up on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday too, testing bug fixes and minor changes to the system - this of course applies to Practel, and Char when she has the time to test. I always log in for a bit on the weekends, battle 1v1 and 2v2, chill out at Oz for a bit etc. do what I can :)

Charfade, though she may prefer other games, like shooters, this doesn't mean she hates ED, or PvP, it just means she prefers others. I know for a fact that Charfade plays EpicDuel more than any other game, ED is her and the other Devs life.

If you look at the All-Time Leader Boards a few Mods/Testers are up there, and I think that shows that we certainly are active in the game. We all enjoy playing the game and we try to get on when possible. Ashari, Alley Cat and multiple other Mods are just a few examples of those pretty active in-game.

I'd also like to point out, since there is obvious confusion, there is a difference between the Testing Team and the Balance Team. The Balance Team is lead by Ashari and Wiseman, and they have no end of ideas, they incorporate many of your ideas, but these have to wait for the coding to be possible, then the testing of the changes to take place. The Testing Team on the other hand is led by me, and though we all test, we purely focus on functionality etc. of features and try to squash any bugs where possible. Sadly testing on our level is completely different to testing on the live servers, and that's why we check the bug sections regularly, try and play the game as much as possible to spot any possible oversights, then as has happened today, bug fixes come ASAP.

So all in all, yes we do play the game, some of us more than others, but we all do so as much as possible. Every Moderator, and Tester on this game has been hand picked from the players, we all know the game, and play it. We're not perfect, and can't make everything fix, everything bug free, and we can't code the balance stuff instantly. We have limitations, we have to wait for balance changes to be coded, bugs to be fixed etc. it's one thing finding them, and coming up with a solution, but then another having to implement that in code. Titan and Hudelf understandably have been very busy with the winter events, which obviously could not wait, since Christmas happens once a year, and now that's over, can focus more on the other changes in the game.

I hope this covers everything! :)
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 11
1/3/2012 13:03:13   
sylar67
Member
 
quote:

The Balance Team


Rumors!!! they dont exist :)
Post #: 12
1/3/2012 13:04:07   
Basicball
Member

i see pactel online quite a lot, i don't see rainaka that much anymore, same goes for ashari, but then again, i myself don't play that long either, and there's more then 1 server, so the fact that i don't see them, doesn't mean they don't play.
Can't say anything about charfade, as i don't have her in my buddy list, but i reckon she doesn't play that much.

also noteworthy: i saw alley cat yesterday, so she plays as well.

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AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 13
1/3/2012 13:10:04   
Chosen 0ne
Banned


 Practel gets on when he can, i see him online.
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 14
1/3/2012 16:49:16   
Practel
Spectating from the Sidelines


 I try to get on when I can, but I am in school and that is incredibly important to me. I don't have all the time in the world to play, and I have to acknowledge that foremost. I make an effort to try and test every friday, and so far I think I've been pretty good. School is the major factor to me not being online "all the time." I think some of you may know that this year is basically the foundation or "basement" of my future career. Algebra 1 Advanced class is determining where I go in college and my future career. The class is VERY demanding, and if I don't put my effort out there, I can't go forward and get into coding classes later on.

My priorities are School, Family, Testing, Bug Testing, and actually playing EpicDuel. I will admit, back in the summer I would be on for ages, but right now testing and school is my priority.


I hope this helps to explain my situation, as for Charfade I know she pointed out that if she goes on, she gets stalked, people ask her questions, people flame and troll, and of all the other possibilities.

EDIT:

Miraged I'd like to point out your online schedule is VASTLY different from mine.

< Message edited by Holiday Practel -- 1/3/2012 18:29:48 >
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 15
1/3/2012 19:55:44   
Nexus...
Member

What Xendran said.



Prophet
Epic  Post #: 16
1/3/2012 20:05:48   
MirageD
Member

practel.....this thread was not directed at you, you aren't part of the staff...i merely mentioned you because i listened to the live stream

i too have other priorities.....i was trying to address the appropriate support/focus on the overall effect of changes on game play....there are some ppl who should to be devoted to the game.....not saying they are mods, testers, developers, etc. maybe they are paid personnel....i don't know....but someone needs to do it

i sincerely hope that you focus your time on the most important things in your life :) you are young and school should come first....i wish you the best of luck :)

someone can lock this....i didn't intend for it to become a flame thread



< Message edited by Mecha Mario -- 1/3/2012 22:27:42 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 17
1/3/2012 20:10:12   
Wootz
Member

Well, Titan does visit every now and then around releases.
I had a good few fights with him.
DAMN YOU 1504 DAMAGE CRITICAL!
AQW Epic  Post #: 18
1/3/2012 20:12:16   
Xendran
Member

Balance team does exist, but not for any real reason. Things that the balance team wants to happen ultimately don't, and the devs can veto anything and everything.

If you think that ed will ever be balanced without the lack of balance threatening titan and nightwraiths jobs, or artix's profits, then you're wrong.
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 19
1/3/2012 20:50:39   
Wiseman
Member

I play quite often, and as a part of the balance team it is very important to play the game to see how things are looking balance wise. However even though we do play the game, and come up with balance solutions, many of those solutions are pushed back because of other events, such as holiday releases. As I've said to a few players in game, the balance will wait but the holidays will not, so the holidays take top priority. Now that the holidays have passed we can start focusing on things that need attention such as balance and factions, and as you may already be aware there are balance changes coming in the next release.

Rainaka and Practel are part of the testing team, and while they do play often, it's not necessarily a requirement for them to play on the live server, their teams main goals are to make sure new features/items work properly, and to duplicate/note any reported bugs and make sure they get fixed. Technically Titan, Nightwraith, Charfade, and Hudelf don't need to play that much either, however if they do play it helps out when suggesting new features/balance ideas, because they would have seen the issues firsthand. I'm not sure about Titan, Nightwraith, or Charfade, but I do know that Hudelf plays the game very often on his alts, and he has leveled up multiple accounts since he started working for the team.

If balance is your main concern, you don't have to worry, at the moment most of the balance is handled by Ashari, Illuminator, and myself. I'm fairly certain that all three of us play the game very often, and we have tons of ideas for balance that we discuss regularly. The main issue is: Balance gets pushed back often because of other events that take priority. That's the truth and sadly there's nothing anyone can do about it, because as we all know, the holidays won't wait around.

Hope that was helpful.

< Message edited by Wiseman -- 1/3/2012 20:52:00 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 20
1/3/2012 20:58:07   
Dragonnightwolf
How We Roll Winner
Apr/Jun/Aug15


 ^ Yeah he does play a lot, I've actually fought against Wise in ed and boy was it fun :)


AQW Epic  Post #: 21
1/3/2012 21:00:31   
Wootz
Member

You ain't the only one! :)
I actually won, I was suprised, first battle to test a Maxed Massacre build equaled a win. And then the Tactical Mercenaries began to fall face to the ground!
AQW Epic  Post #: 22
1/3/2012 21:04:13   
Basicball
Member

@WM: i was just wonderin if you were also testing juggenaut mode or balance.
i personally believe it my need a bit more attention ever since the level cap was raised.
i know it isn't my place to call this, and you certainly can't say yes or no to this, but i believe having a tester who primarily plays juggers woul help.

anyways, maybe i shouldn't even say this, because i have no clue whatsoever wat the new balance changes will be.

sorry if this sounded like i was trying to diminish your work or something lke that, i was most certainly no trying to i know you guys put a lot of effort in these things, and i very much apreciate it.

Thank you

Thread locked, since OP requested thread to be locked. ~Mecha

< Message edited by Mecha Mario -- 1/3/2012 22:28:35 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 23
1/3/2012 22:58:05   
Ashari
Inconceivable!


 Posting after the lock, so shoot me. I didn't want to leave this thread on an unanswered note. ;)

It's true that the devs aren't on regularly, but their time has to be committed to development; there's a never-ending list of things Titan & the rest of the team want to add for EpicDuel. Unfortunately that doesn't leave much time for them to spend with their players. But that's what Cinderella and the rest of the mods are here for though! We're always paying attention to player concerns, here on the forums and in-game, and making sure we get them to the development staff.

Like Practel, Lycus and Wiseman has said, we all have responsibilities as well, both for EpicDuel and in real life. Most of us are in college so we have school to deal with too, but we all try to play as much as we can. I try to be on daily, so do the other mods and testers, but are times we won't be able to play every day, like these holidays. I bring up our testers because they play an important part in all this too -- they are just as involved as any of the moderators in giving feedback and advice to the devs. Practel and Illuminator have been a great help in bringing in a fresh perspective and they are both very active in the game and within the community.

As for balance, you'll be seeing some this week! Balance wasn't ignored because the staff is out of touch. There's just been a lot of events that had to take priority over balance -- but we're going to start to new year on a good note.
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