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4/7/2012 2:09:49   
PD
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 I want to make a suggestion making the phrase of "TL:DR" or "too long, did not read", disallowed in the forums. I ask this because this statement serves nothing more than spam. When I try making something of small worth, or what constitutes as a text wall, I'll normally get the condescending response of "TL:DR", which I believe is a grand insult and waste of space, as well as intentional ignorance of which it conveys because they believe they are above reading what is offered to them, allowing them to try to see what they think they know without even reading in the first place.

Granted, I understand that people will generally have a harder time reading and comprehending longer posts, but to just take the route of the intentional dishonor of what valuable time and resources they put into something doesn't seem right. I believe that if you're going to literally add something of no value for discussion, then it shouldn't really be allowed at all. Personally I've written a few text walls, and I've seen plenty of times people responding "tl:dr", offering no critique, criticism, advice, discussable value, or anything or merit.

I even understand that people generally will not WANT to read something that's probably 40 pages if put into a paperback book. But that's not the point. There's a difference of saying you can't talk about something having no foreknowledge due to your desire to not read, and the fact that you don't even want to read, adding some dumb comment of, "this book is too long, therefore I'll dismiss it entirely without even knowing what the subject of said thing was".

I might be derided for saying this, but I do wish for this place to be a place where I can make posts of any length I want and have people respect it instead of living in a forum culture that encourages short quick thoughts, and drab substance of little value where intentional ignorance is not only encouraged, but praised. Isn't this a forum where discussion is not only highly encouraged, but is actually a rule of this very forum?

< Message edited by PD -- 4/7/2012 2:11:44 >
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4/7/2012 2:19:59   
Chii
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 If the reply consists of nothing but TLDR, then yes, it's probably spam, if not trolling. Some people use TLDR to preceed a shorter summary of a longer post, though, making disallowing the phrase entirely a bad idea. TLDR itself isn't the true problem, it's useless replies - spam.
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4/9/2012 8:48:32   
WayneHart
Banned


 Most people would put a TL;DR tag on something when/if they believe the forum members will not read it all the way. However, they must still believe that there are a select few who indeed do read the entire passage (else they would not spend their time writing it in the first place). But I noticed that generally, if a TL;DR tag is there, it is placed for my convenience and I usually read it first, and then I read the entire passage.

So the way I see it, people will probably read your passage if you DO NOT put a TL;DR tag. But by putting the tag, then people will assume you are placing it there for their convenience and they most likely will not read your passage.

I don't think it is something to be concerned with, nor do I think it should be against the rules. If you people don't expect the community to read their long passages, why put it there in the first place?
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4/9/2012 8:53:54   
ArchMagus Orodalf
Member

WayneHart, you misunderstand. PD is talking about people who post in a long thread to say nothing but "Too long; didn't read," which, as Chii has already stated, is covered by the umbrella "No Spam" rule.
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4/9/2012 9:00:00   
WayneHart
Banned


 Oh.

I knew I was misinterpreting it the wrong way.

My apologies PD, and everyone else.

In this case, yes, I do support the forbiddenment of TL;DR.
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4/21/2012 1:20:20   
hiropyro
Member

I think if we at the bottom of our posts put a
[bTl;Dr]: "insert summary of post" line more people would be less spammy.

But you would always have the trolls, whod do it or the sheer lazy.
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4/21/2012 20:53:36   
1337sauce
Member
 

 lol It's called ignoring the posts you don't like.
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4/22/2012 17:43:16   
serenity_777_
Member

I here by support this topic, and suggest that the forum staff review this so called "TL:DR" Tag because it is a complete obvious reaction and an attempt to influence others that they shouldn't read posts that are to long. You see, the forums aren't meant for those that do not have the time of day to read any post's, or topics regarding in paragraphs. Therefore i strongly suggest that the Ae forum staff members review this grieving tag and possibly turn it over to the debate team for further inspection and opinions.

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5/10/2012 9:26:15   
Remington
Member

As far as I can understand, people are misusing that. On reddit, TL;DR is put at the bottom of the OP's message, and it states a summary of his text wall. That is how it should be used. But, I agree that people simply posting it in response is just spam and should be deleted (unless accompanied by a summary as it should be).

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