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2/22/2014 6:54:00   
Scyze
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I don't know how this varies from player to player. Someone with 0 Focus (Strength build) can get 43, 86 and then 130, yet someone with a 5 Focus build cannot, it's actually lower.

This Special should get lowered to 30, 60 and then 90. 120 in the third round makes a hole in your build, if you don't abuse one stat. The numbers need to lower, but not too much because it might make the Special a bit too weak.

This is something I've thought for a few days. I've been busy trying to become Level 40.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 1
2/22/2014 7:02:42   
Ranloth
Banned


 Or make it like Poison - scale it with total Robot damage. Of course, Tech abusers would still get a good advantage out of it, but doubt it'd be as big as it is now.

With Black Abyss Bot, I'd have 555-592 Robot Damage (Focus 5 & 103 Tech). They could make it work off the base damage (555) and it could start at 5%, then double (to 10%) and double once again to 20%.
5% = -28 Res/Def
10% = -55 Res/Def
20% = -111 Res/Def

With my build, the total is smaller than the current one, but it looks somewhat more balanced. If need be, the special's damage could get increased slightly, to compensate for the nerf. After all, the main issue is with the effect and buff to damage could be a pretty nice nerf-buff to the Bot.

And it deals with non-Focus builds abusing the hell out of it.
AQ Epic  Post #: 2
2/22/2014 7:14:59   
Scyze
Member

The Robot's (normal attack) damage will never go below 50% because once deflected, you deal 50% damage, so I don't really think buffing up the damage it deals should be added. If the Robot's normal attack was bloackable, then I would think it's reasonable to increase the damage. However, those numbers you gave are fine for me.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 3
2/22/2014 7:18:25   
Ranloth
Banned


 Wait, it deals 100% deflectable damage (Necrosis)? If so, ignore the damage buff suggestion then. ED Wiki doesn't even state how much damage it deals, so I guessed it'll be below that of 100%. <.<
AQ Epic  Post #: 4
2/22/2014 7:28:08   
Scyze
Member

I don't know about Necrosis, but when you use the Robot's normal attack, it can't get blocked, you can only deflect the normal attack. Necrosis seems to be unblockable, but I think it's dealing 50% of normal attack damage.

< Message edited by Scyze -- 2/22/2014 7:29:07 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 5
2/22/2014 7:32:22   
Ranloth
Banned


 o.O I didn't know that. Well, if the Bot needed a buff (with the nerf to the effect), then Necrosis could get a small buff to damage. Effect should be alright now, and not imbalanced (or at least, not for some builds).
AQ Epic  Post #: 6
2/22/2014 15:16:16   
kosmo
Member
 

 the special has 90% dmg i think.

whatever the bot is op only if used whit focus, the added bonus to the dmg dealed is 4+8+14 + 3(which is the base dmg of the special), so basically u are using a turn whitout gainig rage to deal 290 dmg;
yet the effect isnt caunterable if not from hibrid armor.

in my opinion what this bot needs is to gain 30 dmg when it uses the special, and to have the debuff scaling whit bot dmg (nerfed whitout focus and buffed whit focus)
Epic  Post #: 7
2/22/2014 15:42:42   
Mother1
Member

@ Kosmo

Armored roots, and surprisingly for now the Assault bot can also counter necrosis effect.
Epic  Post #: 8
2/22/2014 15:53:02   
kosmo
Member
 

 the assault bot cures necrosis effect? :o
Epic  Post #: 9
2/22/2014 16:01:06   
lionblades
Member

^holy crap thats awesome
AQW  Post #: 10
2/22/2014 16:06:51   
Mother1
Member

@ Kosmo

Actually it isn't suppose to since the staff doesn't want one bot to counter another, but for some reason when they created the bot they never made it's affect immune to cleanse. Also even when reported to the staff they never got around to fixing it, so until it is fixed the assault bot is a counter to the effect.
Epic  Post #: 11
2/22/2014 19:50:02   
dfo99
Member
 
quote:

And it deals with non-Focus builds abusing the hell out of it.


where are the players that use the "limitation of builds" argument? trans suggest is a str, dex, and tech builds nerf

< Message edited by dfo99 -- 2/22/2014 19:51:07 >
Post #: 12
2/22/2014 21:32:49   
kosmo
Member
 

 I ve been told that assault bot doesnt work on abyss special from people who tested it in game.
Epic  Post #: 13
2/22/2014 21:52:03   
Mother1
Member

@ kosmo

Just checked it out myself. It seems they fixed the bug that was with necrosis but it was never put into the patch notes.

So the only counters to this now are hybrid armor and armored roots.
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