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8/10/2018 20:36:27   
NDB
Member

The special now ignores 15% damage and useable multiple times per battle. This is okay for 2vs2, but for 1vs1? There's no trade-off whatsoever. It will always do more damage than the regular with the 15% ignore PLUS it is unblockable and undeflectable.
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8/10/2018 20:45:40   
.Lord Ginger.
Member

And I bet it still won’t be used

< Message edited by .Lord Ginger. -- 8/10/2018 20:46:19 >
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8/10/2018 20:47:28   
NDB
Member

True. But still thought I'd point it out.
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8/11/2018 8:03:52   
spore89
Member

I thought this was great, have a better chance in fighting someone who has that overpowered Gamma bot.
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8/11/2018 10:32:59   
NDB
Member

Overpowered Gamma Bot? Gamma Bot is horribly underpowered damage-wise. Even with a 700 damage robot, 5% is only 35 more damage. Omega Yetis with the +35 core, Monkakazi, and now Botanical Borg are all clearly much better now. Even after the Infernal Android nerf, it would take 4 uses of Gamma Bot (soonest is Round 10, assuming you use it every single time it cools down) to beat a Round 9 Infernal Android in total damage. And to be honest, having the damage all at once is far more useful than spread out anyway.

The only thing Gamma Bot has going for it is that the special is Energy, but this is dumb in Omega where just about everybody has even defenses. And a good amount of the time, it is useless anyway because when your opponent has less Defense and you use the Physical version, you lose out on the 5% bonus, which might just make the damage the same as if you had just used the Energy version.

To be honest, Gamma Bot has been needing a buff to 7, maybe even 8% for a long time now.

It would also be nice if there was an Energy version of Gamma Bot that had a Physical special, but I know that will probably never happen.

< Message edited by NDB -- 8/11/2018 10:33:59 >
Epic  Post #: 5
8/11/2018 10:52:52   
RaXZerGamingZ
Member

the bot still isn't used much, infernal still beats it i think
Post #: 6
8/11/2018 10:53:28   
8x
Member

What's the cooldown, now that it can be used multiple times? If its got like, a 5 turn cooldown, it probably shouldn't be that big of a problem.
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8/11/2018 11:16:59   
NDB
Member

@8x
All Bot cores are 3 turn cooldown with the exception of Botanical Hazard.

I especially don't like how it's unblockable and undeflectable. It needs to at least be deflectable.

I don't mind it having it stay this way, if they made it deflectable, but Monkakazi and Gamma Bot would definitely need to be buffed. Maybe make Monkakazi also multiple uses and deflectable. And then buff Gamma bot to 7 or 8%.
Epic  Post #: 8
8/11/2018 12:03:15   
8x
Member

I agree that it's a bit much, that it can't be blocked or deflected. They buffed it up and now that you've pointed this out, I'm sure they'll adjust it in the next update. Personally, I think I'd go for the cooldown increase as a way of nerfing it.

And now that you mention it, Gamma Bot could use a bit of a buff as well. 5% of extra damage doesn't seem like it would be worth it.
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8/11/2018 19:51:15   
spore89
Member

If they are gonna buff gamma bot, don't nerf botanical bot. I don't go balance build because if I face a rank 80+ with balance build gamma bot, I lose no matter what. Gamma bot is OP, it's unless everyone is gonna have Gamma bot, then maybe.
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8/11/2018 20:25:56   
.Lord Ginger.
Member

Gamma isn’t OP...... Blood hawk is a solid bot, so is Infernal Android. I don’t know how you call it OP. I can see a change to botanical Borg just because the normal attack will never be used, but unless the robot becomes a clear favorite, I wouldn’t worry about it too much. I don’t know about the monkakazi bot because I like the unblockable/undeflectable special, but the monkakazi needs a buff. I think maybe the botanical special needs a 1 time use and maybe more defense ignore, maybe 20%.
AQW Epic  Post #: 11
8/11/2018 20:51:30   
spore89
Member

No, it's OP dude (Perhaps not after buff to Botanical borg now) .... If it makes you feel better, I would not mind a buff on Gamma bot getting 108 or 110% damage, but don't nerf Botantical borg.

Botanical borg - Spore Bombardment - 15% defense ignore (85% damage multi). Same damage type as bot. Unlimited and Unblockable. (Since new patch)

Gamma bot - Gamma Fire - 110% damage energy damage. Unlimited and Deflectable

Gamma bot has physical and energy damage, there's no other bot that does that, past infernal android did that, not any more of course.
Damage increase is way better than defense ignore in my opinion, comparing Botanical borg with Gamma bot. (It also helps build up rage for Gamma bot)
Deflection is 25% (at max) at chance, but with balance build, with high technology, that's less likely anyway. I would keep it that way since Gamma bot has both P and E, botanical borg doesn't. (Even with deflect, it can also help lead towards a rage for the bot on next attack).

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