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3/13/2026 23:07:04

Animenut1
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I got to 100 momentum (ergo, 100 battles) and kept fighting things for about an hour past that. I'd estimate at LEAST 200 battles, which was around 6 hours ago as of typing this, yet the leaderboard only lists me at barely over 60 battles. Did I do something wrong, or does the leaderboard really take THAT long to update?

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3/14/2026 0:00:18

KuronekoAlchemist
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If you reached your daily gold cap or XP cap then war wins don't count.

AQW

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3/14/2026 0:03:55

Animenut1
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I don't think that's true. I have Guardian Gains going overnight, every night, so I start every day already capped. I did the aforementioned run after already hitting my gold cap for the day. If hitting the cap mattered, NONE of those battles would have counted, but the game counted me at 60+.

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3/14/2026 0:25:33

KuronekoAlchemist
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I don't know anything about Guardian Gains. If you're getting 0 gold from battles then those don't count for war wins. It has always been that way.

Sending armies seems to be bugged, so there might be something else wrong too.

AQW

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3/14/2026 10:30:10

Animenut1
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Guardian Gains is the game's idle rewards system. Start it, and in about 10 hours, it will have gained the gold/exp cap for the day for you. I start it just after midnight so that by the time I'm awake in the morning, Gains has already farmed my gold cap for the day. Literally EVERY war mob I have fought has been for 0/0 gold/exp, and yet some of those mob wins counted. If it's true that you have to get gold/exp from the mob for it to count, then something funky is happening.

As for sending armies, I haven't participated in a war before. How is that INTENDED to work? I've sent armies from my house before. Averages maybe 60 kills per attempt. It doesn't look like the kills my armies get count as MY kills on the leaderboard, so it looks like it's JUST for gold/exp and no other benefit. Is there supposed to be more to it?

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3/14/2026 13:26:57

KuronekoAlchemist
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Try not using Guardian Gains. That seems to be the problem.

Armies don't count towards individual kills, they show up on your character page though. Players have wanted a separate leaderboard/reward for army wins for awhile but nothing has ever come of it.

They are basically used to make the war go faster, the amount of mobs to get 100% is too high with just regular battles. Wars used to take way too long before they added armies.
If you send armies after hitting the daily cap, you still receive the gold/exp so you can surpass the cap. If you send them before then that means less individual kills.
I don't know your estate so I can't tell if you have the most efficient method for using armies. You don't have to use them of course, it's up to you.

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3/14/2026 13:29:00

Aura Knight
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Capped character participation isn't counted towards war progress. Whatever you claim to experience should not happen. Army/Guard kills might be an exception but it's been years since I bothered using them. If you want to get more war wins skip guardian gains.

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3/14/2026 14:26:32

1stClassGenesis
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Battles no longer save if you would gain 0 XP, Gold, and Z-Tokens.

GG caps 2 of 3.

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3/14/2026 17:52:32

Animenut1
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Okay, people keep saying "That shouldn't happen", so....why is it happening? You can check for yourself. The character name is "Vegito". I have 63 logged kills. Yet not a SINGLE kill I have done in the war fights has netted me any gold or exp. Maybe it counts only when I gain z-tokens after battle? Though, I doubt that, because I deeeeefinitely did not get 63 token rewards after battles.

EDIT #1: Also, one question about house guards. How do they factor into the results? Does the number of guards you currently have make any meaningful difference to the resulting kills/rewards, cost of sending them out, etc? Does the QUALITY of the guards matter? Again, I've never done a war properly before, so the little nuances are still things I need to discover, and aren't explained in wikis anywhere I could find.

EDIT #2: I'm currently up to 88 kills despite not gaining gold or exp from any of them.

EDIT #3: I did one wave (4 battles), waited about 30 minutes, and now I'm up to......106...?

< Message edited by Animenut1 -- 3/14/2026 18:57:30 >

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3/14/2026 19:09:00

dizzle
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People are not saying you are wrong or lying. War wins only count if you have not hit your gold cap - if you have capped they *should not* be logging as official war wins. This means if you are certain that you are not mistaken then you are experiencing a very unusual bug, which could definitely be stemming from Guardian Gains. Only way to get a better understanding is to try and isolate the issue. Just to be clear, you hit your caps on guardian gains every single day and after you’ve capped both your xp and gold, you go to fight in the war and some wins count and some wins do not count? And you are not capping and then playing through the server reset? Is there a common denominator here or something that remains constant specifically when a Win counts or when a Win does not count? Of is it completely random some wins

< Message edited by dizzle -- 3/14/2026 19:12:42 >

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3/14/2026 20:37:52

Animenut1
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I wasn't meaning to suggest that people are calling me wrong or dishonest. I was just saying that people kept saying "The game is supposed to operate a specific way" without really discussing why it's NOT operating that way in my situation. Repeating the same information isn't really helping figuring out why that information DOES NOT seem to be applying to me. To answer your questions in order...

1) Correct. The first thing I do every single day is use Guardian Gains to hit the gold cap. I start the process at about midnight EST, Guardian Gains (GG, for short) maxes out by about 10am the next morning, I collect my capped gold amount in one lump sum whenever I get around to checking the game, and then proceed to do whatever else in the game I need/want to do that day. All of my in-game activities occur AFTER hitting the daily gold cap, every single day, without exception.

2) No, the battles I have stated have all been between when I collected the GG gold cap and midnight the same day. The time I spent getting to 100 momentum and then playing for an hour past that happened between approximately 9-11pm, well AFTER collecting my capped GG rewards and well BEFORE the server reset, as I am in the same timezone as AE headquarters. The daily limits reset at 12 midnight sharp, for me.

3) As for common denominators, it's hard to tell since I don't know how regularly the leaderboards update. My previous message has several edits because I was trying to figure out exactly what the common denominator was by doing different amounts of waves and waiting a short while for the leaderboard to update. Did my battle count only go up for battles I earned tokens from? Well, it went up 25 kills despite me DEFINATELY not getting 25 token battles, so...maybe some battles from earlier hadn't been tallied since last time I checked and those got bundled into the most recent set? But even that in mind, I still DEFINITELY did not get 25 token battles today in TOTAL, let alone the last few hours. So where did those 25 battles come from? I did a 1-wave round comprised of 4 battles, waited about 30 minutes, checked the leaderboard, and suddenly SHOT up 18 battles. So CLEARLY the leaderboard isn't updating all that quickly since there's no way 4 battles translated into 18 kills unless it's only just now counting battles from hours prior. The (seemingly massive) delay on the leaderboard makes it difficult to test what battles are and are not counting.

I won't do GG tomorrow (midnight is 3 and a half hours from now) and see if NOT doing GG causes every battle to count. For the sake of logging this, I will say this in advance: I will do a FIVE-wave battle, which should be 20 battles, note how many battles give tokens, then immediately check the leaderboard, then do no battles for 4 hours, then check the leaderboard again and post the results.

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3/14/2026 21:54:32

KuronekoAlchemist
Member

You don't need to wait for the leaderboard to update. Click your name on the leaderboard for your character page or click the button in town.

Your character page updates your kill count immediately. Open it, check the numbers, then close it.

Also, if you encounter the chest with the Blade of Awe pieces in the war, then that doesn't count as a kill.

AQW

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3/14/2026 22:15:07

Animenut1
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^^^That helps a lot. I just tested. 106 before testing, I did one wave. 4 battles. None of them gave gold. 1 was an Awe chest. 1 of them gave tokens. Checked again, my total kills is......108.

.........................................................................Huh? TWO? The only two battles that were similar were the one where I DIDN'T get tokens. THREE non-chest battles, one gave tokens, the other two gave nothing, and I gained TWO kills.

This is BEFORE the server reset on the same day as a GG cap, for the record.

EDIT: Did another wave. 4 battles. One of them was a chest (again, already?). None of them gave tokens or gold. ZERO additional kills.

< Message edited by Animenut1 -- 3/14/2026 22:18:16 >

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3/14/2026 23:41:43

1stClassGenesis
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quote:

Battles no longer save if you would gain 0 XP, Gold, and Z-Tokens.

That is to say, if you have NOT capped your Z-Tokens for the day, battle victories will continue to save regardless of your XP and Gold gain (or lack thereof).

For the purposes of a war, Rare Treasure Chests do not count as a kill.

< Message edited by 1stClassGenesis -- 3/14/2026 23:42:44 >

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3/14/2026 23:53:03

Animenut1
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quote:

That is to say, if you have NOT capped your Z-Tokens for the day, battle victories will continue to save regardless of your XP and Gold gain (or lack thereof).

That's the thing, though. They aren't. Or rather, SOME of them aren't. It's wildly inconsistent. See my previous post. One time, 4 battles gave me TWO kills, but the next 4 matches gave me ZERO kills. Unless I hit the token cap during the first set, which I don't think the game informs the player of in any way.

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3/15/2026 0:19:48

Mystical Warrior
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In the one you tested where it increased your kills, its the one with the token reward that got saved. However your claim of only one fight giving a token reward but you got two kills is weird. But bottomline still though is that the kills that get counted are ones that gave token rewards.

So if you have capped your exp/gold through Guardian Gains, the only kills that will add to your kill count for the war are fights with token rewards since that would be the only time the game will make a "save" of some sort

Edit: One scenario comes to my mind though on how you got 2 kills on your earlier test, although I haven't really experienced this scenario myself, or if its even possible, but the wave you did wherein one had a token reward, the one with the chest MIGHT'VE had a token reward also, you might have just not noticed it especially if you are clicking fast, so that might explain why you got 2 kills after that wave

< Message edited by Mystical Warrior -- 3/15/2026 0:23:49 >

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3/15/2026 1:05:11

Animenut1
Member

Thank you for the input, but, respectfully, I can ASSURE you that the chest run did not award tokens more than once. I know that people here have to take me at my word since it's not like I can share video footage of the game while I'm playing it, but rest assured that I am VERY thorough and promise everything I have said is entirely accurate. I notice every time I get tokens even when I'm NOT consciously testing something. The fact that I was consciously testing something means I'd be even more eagle-eyed than I normally already am.

I don't really have an explanation for it, either. It IS weird. Which is why this thread is ongoing. I theorized earlier that only the token battles counted, but that hasn't been the case in testing. I really can't think of anything else that would contribute to this. I even batted around the idea of "Maybe the enemy needs a turn for it to count?" But testing that turned up inconclusive results.

So, to summarize...

-It's not token battles. Claiming tokens does not consistently count as a kill.

-Some runs give more kills than the number of token battles in the run.

Anything else anyone can think of for me to test?

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3/15/2026 1:13:44

Laeon val Observis
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At this point, instead of trying to get answers and wasting time waiting for said answers and getting mixed responses, how about just file a bug report at bugs.artix.com. In the first place, if you were serious about getting the FOMO rewards of an AQ war, if you remain interested in those despite the responses, you would've invested your time warring instead of lounging at Guardian Gains and relentlessly powering through the enemies to the edge of burnout.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be going back to the DF sector. We ourselves have a war to deal with as per the traditional Friday the 13th carnage.

EDIT: And for sanity's sakes, always log out-log in once 0:00 EST clicks in. Saves a lot of hassle in these games and gives your character a fresh start.
EDIT II: Apart from neglecting logging out at midnight EST (for maximum effect, strongly recommend to also close the active AQ game window after logging out) and potential effects of playing beyond reward caps for you to touch grass, before you inquire further, when was the last time you did a cache clear?

< Message edited by Laeon val Observis -- 3/15/2026 3:03:31 >

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3/15/2026 15:46:47

Animenut1
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I don't think it's a bug. I can file a report, but I doubt anything will come of it.

No need to be rude. "In the first place", everything before your reply happened within the span of time between me hitting the cap with GG and midnight that day. I quite literally had nothing better to do (in the game, at least) than testing whatever was happening for the rest of the day. Today, I can focus on grinding out kills since I didn't GG to the cap.

I log out regularly. However, I've never had an issue with server resets. The gold cap always resets at midnight, sharp. By 12:01am, I can start farming gold. That has never been an issue. If I have nothing better to do in the game after collecting GG rewards, I'll turn the game off.

I genuinely don't remember the last time I cleared my cache. It has never really been necessary.

The original intention of this thread was checking to see if I missed something since I'm new to warring and didn't know all the ins and outs. However, since creating the thread, it has become more about noting that there's CLEARLY more to mob kills than gaining gold/xp/tokens, despite the initial response from the community being strongly insistent that it's the only condition. The fact that I was regularly (if not rather inconsistently) gaining kills while at the gold/xp cap and seemingly regardless of token gain suggests that there's something the game checks for that ISN'T strictly tied to the caps. Why the community NOT want to pick this apart and find out how that works?

I've asked questions like this before. Like wanting to know the exact mechanics of the claim "Log in once a day to gain a raffle ticket" leading to forum-goers agreeing that some way to track that kind of progress would be nice. The AE fandom generally likes having deep, mechanical understanding of the games they play. I don't see why wanting to know why my experience deviated from the general consensus of (what seems to be) some of the most knowledgeable players out there. If the consensus is "Kills only count if you gain gold" and my experience says otherwise, that should be something the community WANTS to look into.

Honestly, I'd be happy to give up on gaining the war rewards in order to focus on using my character as the guinea pig for figuring out what nuance in the mob kills mechanic we're missing.

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3/19/2026 21:27:50

1stClassGenesis
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quote:

and my experience says otherwise, that should be something the community WANTS to look into.

So, what data or insight did you obtain from the past few days of testing that forum-goers missed? Or did you resign to no longer "wanting" to look into the matter?

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3/21/2026 0:59:55

Animenut1
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quote:

So, what data or insight did you obtain from the past few days of testing that forum-goers missed? Or did you resign to no longer "wanting" to look into the matter?

I've tried everything I could think of. Even things I didn't previously do. Things like using a potion in a battle, using a spell, using a misc, taking damage, noting when I got celerity (I was using Ironhoof for a bit), noting the specific enemy types, and more. Nothing turned up any consistent results worth posting. At the moment, it genuinely feels random when mobs do and don't count toward kills. I mean, there HAS to be some logic to it, even if it's a glitch. But nothing I tested came up with consistently-replicable results. So I'm fully stumped until someone can give me more ideas to test.

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3/26/2026 16:18:46

Animenut1
Member

UPDATE: I'm not sure what exactly changed, but now EVERY fight is counting toward my kill count, even when gold-capped. Regardless of monster type, token gain, etc. I keep trying the 1-wave (4 battle) option, and, aside from Rare Chests, every single win counts toward my kill count. The ONLY change I can note is that I logged out and in to start the momentum counter over from 0. I'll update this after hitting 100 momentum and fighting a few more battles to see if that affects the counter.

UPDATE: At 0 momentum, had 1086 kills. every kill for 24 kills counted before I started Endless to reach 100. After reaching 100 momentum, total kills is 1135, so only about HALF of the kills counted overall, and only about 25% of the kills done in Endless counted. Just did 1-wave and none of the kills counted. Logged out and back in to reset momentum, did 1-wave, none of the kills counted.

Current conclusion: I still have absolutely NO idea what the common factor is.

< Message edited by Animenut1 -- 3/26/2026 17:18:30 >

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3/26/2026 20:18:07

Mystical Warrior
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Just to cover all bases, by any chance are you already at lvl150? We don't have any clue about your actual character, so it might be possible that if you're not lvl150 yet, so even if you are gold capped, but still gaining exp, then your kills will be recorded still.

Edit: Also, are you changing equips? or somehow using items that might be affecting your gold? Like Golden Gween which consumes gold or maybe Nezujimbo (from what I remember uses gold as upkeep), since your gold was changed during the fight because of those items, the game might be doing some saving due to the change in your gold amount which then leads to kills being still recorded, and the reason why some kills is not being recorded might be because you are killing mobs before those items consume your gold which then makes the kill not recorded since your gold remained the same

< Message edited by Mystical Warrior -- 3/26/2026 20:38:51 >

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3/26/2026 21:15:40

Animenut1
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I am level 150 and have been for many years, so that has not been a fluctuating factor in the testing.

I am not changing equips. My loadout has been H-Series, Elani Silencer's Athema, Troposhield, and Dunamis (although it rarely has a chance to act) for every battle.

I do have the "Spirit" miscs in my inventory for max gold gain, but I only swap one out on the first of each month. Those haven't been changed at all, so my gold cap hasn't fluctuated during the testing. And none of my tactics have used gold as a resource.

I like the thoroughness, though. Thank you for the input.

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3/26/2026 22:13:06

1stClassGenesis
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I’ve alluded to this a few times now, but this time I’m very fairly certain, based off your replies, which at first sounded odd but I chalked it up to bad phrasing — you just don’t know what the daily Z-Token cap is.

Edit: regardless, I’ll find time to add to my count and hopefully I won’t need to come back here after reporting my findings.

Update 1: The only site I checked is my character page. Not top war wins. All of this happened within one reset (no crossing over of before-reset to after-reset).

Level 135 Adventurer -- unable to obtain any XP, not hard gold capped. In other words, starting from 0 of 26,698,053 daily Gold gained, and gold capping today would not cap me to 2 billion gold. No possible access to Guardian Gains. Strategy to defeat war mobs: Absolutely irrelevant.

I started out capping my daily Z-Tokens on that character. Afterwards, I went to clock 2 battles in Endless, died, and clocked 98 more (I had to add to my war count for this testing, gross). None of them were Rare Treasure Chests (not that it would've mattered). All 100 victories showed up on my character page. At this point, this level 135 Adventurer has no ability to obtain XP or Z-Tokens, only Gold.

And so I went to cap Gold for this character for the day. So now, it has no ability to obtain XP, Gold, or Z-Tokens. I went to clock more battles in Endless until I found a Rare Treasure Chest (23 battles in), and 2 more non-Chest battles afterwards. Not a single victory registered in the character page -- exactly how it should be. I logged out, logged back in, clocked 1 wave in the "1 wave" option, no Rare Treasure Chests (not that I needed any on this character) -- not a single victory registered in the character page after the additional 100 -- exactly how it should be. (Every victory resulted in an IMMEDIATE (within the second) update on the character page until it predictably, no longer updates, even if Momentum predictably goes up).

TLDR of Update 1: Everything is in proper, working order.

Update 2: As per Update 1 -- only checking character page, and no crossing from pre-reset to post-reset). Level 150 Guardian, so no ability to obtain XP. It's done Guardian Gains to cap daily Gold (which will not bring it to the hard gold cap), no longer able to obtain XP or Gold for the day, only Z-Tokens. The expected outcome is that after capping Z-Tokens on this character, no more kills will be registered on the character page.

Additional point: nowhere was it said that 1 Z-Token = 1 kill. That was a misinterpretation on your end.

And as expected -- no Rare Treasure Chests, and no more kill counts reflected after also capping daily Z-Tokens (thereby capping -- or rather, having no possibility of obtaining any non-zero amount of any of the 3 daily metrics). Kill counts on this character were using "10 waves" and "5 waves" options.

Final verdict: Nothing's odd besides your overcomplication of the matter.

< Message edited by 1stClassGenesis -- 3/27/2026 8:25:48 >

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