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10 page lock! Feel free to remake this thread and continue the discussion.

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"Elites:" are players who supported ED way before they know or merge with AE. But the only thing different is Elites functions like the DA in DF, meaning a 1 time payment and were also awarded with "Founders armor", "Beta Weapons", "Unlimited Varium" (For the first month) and '20,000 varium and the first hover bike'. (I don't see elites anymore and might as well have vanished because of ED's several cold decisions)

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I just wanted to provide a quick clarification about the benefits our current Elite players will be receiving:

The Elite upgrade is no longer available (players will still have their Elite badge and status, but no new players will be able to upgrade to Elite). This means that our current Elite players have earned a status that players will never be able to earn again in the future. To replace the Elite upgrade, we will be introducing a new currency called Varium. Players will be able purchase and exchange Varium for weapons, armors, style changes, factions, homes, and more to come soon.

ALL OF OUR EXISTING ELITE PLAYERS NOW HAVE AN UNLIMITED QUANTITY OF VARIUM!* :D

ALL OR OUR EXISTING ELITE PLAYERS WILL BE RECEIVING THE RARE DUEL MASTER ARMOR SET FOR FREE ONCE THE NEW PAYMENT SYSTEM IS IN PLACE :D

Once you have linked your existing Elite account to the BattleOn Master account system, just login to the game, and you're all set. You will notice that you have a new Varium icon in your character's inventory. Elite players will see the word "Elite" next to the Varium symbol, indicating an endless supply

I know this is all very new and the websites aren't polished yet, but give us just a little time to get the kinks worked out and I promise we'll make EpicDuel better than ever!


*for non-consumable Varium-based items

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Issue with Elites:
ED broke the first promise: They took out elites unlimited varium. Elites where enraged and cried because they were promised the good stuff forever. To counter this ED gave them 20,000 varium+Hover Bike and a promise for additional Bonuses Each release.

ED broke the second promise: They haven't given elites the bonuses they were promised, so many left and never came back.

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"Founders:" are players who paid and supported ED, when they merge with AE for the first month, and are Awarded the "Founders Armor" and "Beta Weapons"

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Issues with Founders:
We Founders have no real issue with ED just a few small request. We are only few in the game. The founders armor and Beta Weapons are like a badge to us, makes us proud to be part of ED, We only ask that you give us a little bit of reward for our generous loyalty. Like buffing the armor and weapons just to remain it in 2nd place so we still can use it.

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People I have no quarrel about the future armors and weapons in ED. Let them be the best I don't care.

I just want the founders armor to be usable in future releases.

For those who say "I'm paying more than the founders" yes you did pay more but you are not a founder, even if you pay a 100000000000$ you are not gonna be a founder.

Founders made something in ED, they paid and trusted the staff for the first month even if we didn't know what will happen to the game in the future.

Elites were promised the best in ED but they broke that promise, for I don't know what reason.
imagine having a DA in DF. Promised to have the best of the best items in the game and suddenly it was taken away from you.

That's what happened to elites in ED.

I for one don't want that to happen to founders, but I cant do anything about that anymore. So I'm just asking for a little favor from the staff to make founders armor always 2nd best, and everything make it the best of the best.

That's what you get for being a founder you get a little bit of more because you were there first.

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I just love how people who were not even around when Founder came out decide to post and say it doesnt deserve to be buffed.. Hmm that doesnt seem right to me

I also love how Free to play players are also stating that Founder armor should not be buffed, again this does not seem right to me..

Here is my point of view for those who choose to listen to it.. Elites payed alot of money when ED was a new born game and had no idea what it would turn out to be, ED could have gone under the next day because it was still in testing stages but they took that big step and payed money for the game to continue to progress and it has.. they were made promises that were revoked and many of them have stopped playing for that reason alone

Now we have Founders who took almost exactley the same risky step when the game was in Beta stages and payed alot of money for the game to keep progressing and for the promise of a very strong armor.. which we did get.. but now the game has progressed so far that more armors, possibly stronger ones are comming out and Founder is being made Obsolite.. The problem for me is It is being made obsolite by new cheaper armors then Founder was.. any player who decides to buy 1500 varium which is a hell of alot cheaper then the 10k we bought for founder armor (Not to mention the countless packages we bought after that aswell) can now match Founder armor.. with either the Bunny Borg or another Armor thats going to come out soon that only costs 995 varium and a couple thousand credits that can be made easily..

Founders took a big risk over a year ago and put alot of money into the game, now Free to play players and New people to the game are going to tell us we do not deserve a few extra stat points, when you can easily by an armor to match ours for 995 varium.. no.. i do not agree with that

Ive put to much money into this game.. as many of us have.. for a Free to play player to tell me i do not deserve to keep my Founder armor and to have it be stronger then any cheap armor you can now pick up (I know some may say 995 varium isnt cheap, but compared to Founder.. it is)

I do respect Free to play players and i always welcome new players to the game.. you guys have a hard time playing with so many others being at the top of the game and Paying for the best things and i am not trying to single any of you out.. I think it is great that some of you play for free and still do so well.. it is pretty awesome that you do, but once you put a ton of money into the game then i will listen to you when you say those (Who have put tons of money into the game) can not have there armor buffed by even a few points when they helped this game become what it is today..

Founder is a huge piece of ED's history.. i would hate to see it go under because of a Bunny armor and other armors that WILL come out

Founder armor is a symbol for alot of people and they have had it and used it for so long that it is a piece of the game for them (Like me) I do not want to change my Founder armor for a Bunny Borg armor and i WILL not..

It should not be left to gather dust in our inventories it should be used for everyone to see that this is how the game started and that Founders are still here.. The same should of happend to Elites at the time but they were left in the cold after taking risks with there money for the game and many have gone.. I do not want to see the same happen to Founders

All the best
- Silent

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All I can say is that I would indeed be quite miserable if the founder armor was to vanish from the game.

To me it is like asking AQWorlds founder players to delete their Alpha Pirate armor or taking the Beta players Bezerker class away because the other players don't have it. Simply unthinkable.

Yet the mentality of some of EpicDuel's community is "if I don't have it then you can't have it".

I have never ever thought once to say to a player that has received a special item in a game that they should only be allowed to use it for a limited amount of time.
I usually say to them "Wow that is a nice item!" and continue on my own merry way.

My AQWorlds clan was full of founders and beta players and although I had not thought to pay for membership when the game first started they didn't mind one bit that I was the clan leader. We all treated each other with respect and indeed had wonderful farming parties and fun times.

Having Elite/Founder status with an item to proudly display doesn't mean that we are better than you or that you are better than us. Respect is earned both ways.

With the way that pvp works these days I would prefer a Lucky armor but heaven forbid lets not go down that path!

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t looks like a lot the broken promises cited here are actually assumptions. 1) Founder armor was never promised to be the best armor in the game forever. Any buff received after it's release was influenced by popular opinion, but entirely at the discretion of the developers. It can still be argued that it's one of the strongest and definitely one of the rarest items in the game. 2) Elites were not promised new bonuses each update. Their unlimited varium reduced to a finite supply (20k) because unlimited varium would never have balanced with most of the varium features in game. They also received Founder and Beta gear free, plus a hoverbike that is only available as a rare arcade drop. As developers, we are constantly faced with the challenge of pleasing our past supporters while not alienating future supporters. Each prior phase wants better perks than the more recent phase, so this creates a massive implied obligation on our part. If we went this route, each release would consist

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Continue here...

My ideas:
For Elites - Make a 10% sale on items for them. Wont change that much for 10 items they get 1 free... (its something like that)
For Founders - Give them a physical version and make it +8 res/def...

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Thank you for replying Nightwraith in the last thread.

I certainly hope that your post does not mean that this is a closed discussion. If it is the end of the discussion regarding upgrading the Founder armor as is customary with all the other rares then I ask of you to tell us now so that Elites and Founders know exactly what the policy will be.
As it stands now it is rather ambiguous.

We do understand that we would not be getting buffed every time an armor is released but we ask that we can retain and USE our Founder armor into the future? Possibility or not?

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It looks like a lot the broken promises cited here are actually assumptions.

1) Founder armor was never promised to be the best armor in the game forever. Any buff received after it's release was influenced by popular opinion, but entirely at the discretion of the developers. It can still be argued that it's one of the strongest and definitely one of the rarest items in the game.

2) Elites were not promised new bonuses each update. Their unlimited varium reduced to a finite supply (20k) because unlimited varium would never have balanced with most of the varium features in game. They also received Founder and Beta gear free, plus a hoverbike that is only available as a rare arcade drop.

As developers, we are constantly faced with the challenge of pleasing our past supporters while not alienating future supporters. Each prior phase wants better perks than the more recent phase, so this creates a massive implied obligation on our part. If we went this route, each release would consist of creating content specifically for past supporters, which would devour development time on forward progress while discouraging new players from buying, since we would create a ceiling of super-premium content they could never penetrate. Games like AQW can award new content to members and founder because 1) it doesn't affect balance and 2) they have the staff to do so. Smaller games like MechQuest that promised perks like monthly mechs for upgraded members had to compromise on this promise due to lack of staff.

I'm not saying we don't appreciate past support, but we are not obligated to create content specifically for Alphas, Elites, Founders, Betas and so on. Anything special we give these supporters is a gift given out of appreciation and kindness, not obligation.

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T600 plz stay away, if u have no idea what we are talking about .

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Many users in the past thread proved exactly what I meant. Nothing but selfish kids who only want personal gain. We're asking for a freaking buff to the resistance. Yet most of you whine... as you always do... and always will do... thus is the cycle of the new EpicDuel. Congratulations to you all. Let's go raid the forums for gamma armor and have it have 10 stats on Dex and tech and 9 Res...

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I just wanted to provide a quick clarification about the benefits our current Elite players will be receiving:

The Elite upgrade is no longer available (players will still have their Elite badge and status, but no new players will be able to upgrade to Elite). This means that our current Elite players have earned a status that players will never be able to earn again in the future. To replace the Elite upgrade, we will be introducing a new currency called Varium. Players will be able purchase and exchange Varium for weapons, armors, style changes, factions, homes, and more to come soon.

ALL OF OUR EXISTING ELITE PLAYERS NOW HAVE AN UNLIMITED QUANTITY OF VARIUM!* :D

ALL OR OUR EXISTING ELITE PLAYERS WILL BE RECEIVING THE RARE DUEL MASTER ARMOR SET FOR FREE ONCE THE NEW PAYMENT SYSTEM IS IN PLACE :D

Once you have linked your existing Elite account to the BattleOn Master account system, just login to the game, and you're all set. You will notice that you have a new Varium icon in your character's inventory. Elite players will see the word "Elite" next to the Varium symbol, indicating an endless supply

I know this is all very new and the websites aren't polished yet, but give us just a little time to get the kinks worked out and I promise we'll make EpicDuel better than ever!


*for non-consumable Varium-based items

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I just wanted to provide a quick clarification about the benefits our current Elite players will be receiving:

The Elite upgrade is no longer available (players will still have their Elite badge and status, but no new players will be able to upgrade to Elite). This means that our current Elite players have earned a status that players will never be able to earn again in the future. To replace the Elite upgrade, we will be introducing a new currency called Varium. Players will be able purchase and exchange Varium for weapons, armors, style changes, factions, homes, and more to come soon.

ALL OF OUR EXISTING ELITE PLAYERS NOW HAVE AN UNLIMITED QUANTITY OF VARIUM!* :D

ALL OR OUR EXISTING ELITE PLAYERS WILL BE RECEIVING THE RARE DUEL MASTER ARMOR SET FOR FREE ONCE THE NEW PAYMENT SYSTEM IS IN PLACE :D

Once you have linked your existing Elite account to the BattleOn Master account system, just login to the game, and you're all set. You will notice that you have a new Varium icon in your character's inventory. Elite players will see the word "Elite" next to the Varium symbol, indicating an endless supply

I know this is all very new and the websites aren't polished yet, but give us just a little time to get the kinks worked out and I promise we'll make EpicDuel better than ever!


*for non-consumable Varium-based items