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8/3/2011 21:16:01   
Infinity Everlasting
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A certain balance change caught my attention the most-

quote:

• Static Charge gets a buff, no longer being reduced by the enemy’s defenses when calculating the energy gain (similar to Atom Smasher)


Because stat chage gives mp regen for the % of dmg dealt to the opponent's hp, then that would mean the attack would be able to breach 100% def and heal your mp for the same amount? This would make str cber hunters extremely overpowered especially with the nerf on berserker.

What do you think of this change for the currently most underpowered class?
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8/3/2011 21:17:54   
ND Mallet
Legendary AK!!!


 It will be like Atom Smasher where the damage it deals ignores 100% of defenses. No longer do you have to malf and then Static Charge to get a good payback from it.
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8/3/2011 21:18:39   
Midnightsoul
Member

i bet u JohnnyCrow is happy...and other guys like U FAIL NERD, and Trizkial. they are some seriously epic CH's
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8/3/2011 21:18:53   
DeathGuard
Member

We can't say it will be oped, lets wait for the release to prove if it is.
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8/3/2011 21:20:51   
Infinity Everlasting
Member

@ND Mallet- So I was correct about the 100% def breach.

This would make the balance way worse, with just average str (a 4 focus str build) people can do 22-27 + 32 dmg, eliminating all tank builds.
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8/3/2011 21:20:59   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

It will be like Atom Smasher except instead of draining energy you regain it therefore I assume the devs will realize if it does energy regen and damage it will be Oped so it will probably just be mp regen.
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8/3/2011 21:24:32   
One Winged Angel1357
Member


 i beleive Damage will be normal but the regain is based off of your damage being done on that attack minus Defences

So if you attack and do 20 damage but your power is 40 so 60% of that 40 is 24

So you do 20 damage but get 24 energy back
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8/3/2011 21:27:42   
ND Mallet
Legendary AK!!!


 @Infinity Only the energy gain would get the 100% reduction. So a str hunter wouldn't be able to ignore 100% defense and hit 60's. He would still hit normal damage but he would get 60% of energy back as if he dealt full damage.

Example:
22-27 + 32 damage means he would get 60% of 54-59 damage but he would still have the 20-24 damage of his opponent reducing the damage to 30-35. A CH will now gain 60% of 54-59 instead of the 30-35 like it is now.
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8/3/2011 21:38:00   
Infinity Everlasting
Member

@ND Mallet and One Winged Angel1357- Ah thx for te clarification, I was thinking the buff was somewhere along those lines because 100% def ignore would be way too overpowered.

Then gives CHs a much more diversified strategy set-up because with good str, the mp regen will be very high.

< Message edited by Infinity Everlasting -- 8/3/2011 21:39:15 >
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8/3/2011 21:39:57   
Midnightsoul
Member

well, keep in mind guys that str CH got nerfed because of massacre but now theres no need for malf if u get 100% back ep. now, new CH's that came from BH can use physical primaries.
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8/3/2011 22:03:24   
Ashari
Inconceivable!


 ND is completely right. Damage is still affected by defenses, however the energy restored will be based off of your damage BEFORE defenses. Of course, that means the percent restore on Static Charge will be lowered a bit but it will still be on average more energy than you currently get.

This should allow CH to be able to utilize more skills than a BH would be to offset their lack of Blood Lust. An extra heal or EMP where needed would be possible while still allowing Malfunction + Massacre which should give Cyber Hunter some very strategic gameplay.
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8/3/2011 23:10:55   
Midnightsoul
Member

the devs might as well make BM OP...and also make some kind of new battle mode called evolved 1v1, evolved 2v2...


@Ashari
well...what if there was an emp CH? O_o well, this fight is gonna be risky...

< Message edited by bloodknight997 -- 8/3/2011 23:14:28 >
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8/4/2011 2:00:50   
Shadow Jester
Member

I'm a serious CH :D
One the first 3 hours when the classes came out i made the first CH build that was using STR,Health,Dex I still have it lol
xD
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8/4/2011 3:33:18   
FrostWolv
Member

well I guess CH with a support build will be dangerous in 2v2 with bit high dex included

first move malf (increases with support)
second move multishot (increases with dex)
third to seventh move heal/aux/static charge/emp/re malf/ re multi (according to strategy)

They might own in 2v2

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8/4/2011 9:24:23   
kwj3
Member

Its still blockable and just scale it to the main str + 50% wep dmg.

its not gonna be as OP because its blockable and by far the most stat needed skills .
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8/4/2011 9:30:55   
raith2
Member

quote:

It will be like Atom Smasher except instead of draining energy you regain it therefore I assume the devs will realize if it does energy regen and damage it will be Oped so it will probably just be mp regen.
even that would over powered atom smasher can take 40 mana so them gaining 40 mana every 2 turns would be realy stupid


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8/4/2011 9:40:44   
Matija
Member
 
quote:

We can't say it will be oped, lets wait for the release to prove if it is.
Agree
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8/4/2011 9:48:53   
  Digital X

Beep Beep! ArchKnight AQ / ED


 Tempted to go back to a CH, i did enjoy it.
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8/4/2011 10:01:12   
HellsCupid
Member

I have been a CH ever since it was released and never changed back ;)

I enjoyed being rather Under-Powered but still being able to find a couple of edges over the rest of the classes. I did feel that I had disadvantages and what-not, but now this buff will be pretty awesome. BUTTTTT, it can still be blocked >.<
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8/4/2011 10:33:25   
Infinity Everlasting
Member

Yes, CH is a unique class, though it seems to me as if most CHs are using some sort of high hp, str build with malf+massacre, so hopefully this buff will create a more diversified range of builds.

I might try it on one of my chars if I ever farm 50k credits to class change....
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8/4/2011 10:42:50   
Midnightsoul
Member

dude, cindy mentioned the percent of SC will be reduced
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8/4/2011 16:04:46   
frosty123
Member
 

 Hopefully not to 30% maxed
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