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8/23/2011 18:16:03   
ShadowQupid
Member
 

 I'm not sure about how to make a discussion "thingy" / Post

But this is for Blood Mages, I've seen a bunch of post about them being under powered (Up'd)
But I've recently made a build and it's pretty good especially against str and support Tactical Mercenaries

So tell me,

Do you think this class has potential or not? And give me 2 reasons.

You already know the rules about flaming and things like that I need not tell you.


(Discussion about Blood Mages potential.)
AQW Epic  Post #: 1
8/23/2011 22:41:51   
voidance
Member

I've been a Blood Mage since day one and I'm pretty good at picking up on any class so yes i think it has potential. Atm I'm rocking a Juggernaut tank builds that is working amazingly, and it has a flawless record. The class has its limits but with what you got to work with it can be amazing. Like the class is near impossible to work with on support, it has no real power in support other then healing and the Aux' damage which isnt enough in this day and time. Tech, Dex, and Strength on the other hand has its perks. Technology is a lovely attribute to have when you got the right gear such as Gamma Bot/Assault Bot, Tesla P, and nice Tech boost gear, not to mention we have many options skill wise to work with on tech such as Plasma rain and Plasma Cannon. Dexterity is a bit more tricky but has its nice perks of of being able to block alot more often which inturn stops those pesky Tlm's, once again not to mention the lovely Dex based skills we have known as Overload and Super Charge. Lastly Strength, it's obvious Blood Mage is gonna be Strength related because of its skills, What we lack in Def's we gain in Strength, we have FireBall which is a nice unblockable/undeflectable skill that comes in handy, but on the other hand we have Berserker which is nice if you got the right staves to work with such as Celtic War Staff, Cryomancer Staff, and Delta Staff, and to top all that we have BloodLust which has no downfall, it's just pure helpful. Although I haven't tried a Strength build since the update I'm still pretty sure it is if not better then it used to be.

All that being said that's my prospective of the class.
AQW Epic  Post #: 2
8/23/2011 23:00:41   
ShadowQupid
Member
 

 Very Nice argument lol Support builds with this class is actually pretty effective, you should actually try it... That's the new build I was talking about the only problem with the build, is it has difficulties vs. Tech mages other than that it works REALLY well.

I fought 75 battles and loss 10 times MAX and most of those losses were mostly because I hadn't gotten used to the build yet so yeah, I hope you actually try a support build some day :)

Anyways, I like your opinion and I can agree that is a great class if you know how to use it! :)

@under Hmm, who's best though?

< Message edited by ShadowQupid -- 8/23/2011 23:51:15 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 3
8/23/2011 23:31:27   
FrostWolv
Member

Well I luv the Blood Mage class dats y I m still with this class

The thing is I am able to kill strn TLM with my support build like I win 6 and lose 4 ... but support TLM kills me and TM takes advantage of my build

The thing is due to TLM high defense Bloodlust does not provide decent life steal and then again after they heal coz of reroute it makes things worse

BM is a decent class nt UPd but TLM makes them look like UPd ... dats y for competitive fight buff is needed!! (as everyone knows between good and best ... best always win)

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Epic  Post #: 4
8/23/2011 23:49:11   
StriderAigis
Member

Well the class is awesome see my horible stuff, well armor,lol beat a full var TLM lvl 33 with my build with this stuff rage fireball FTW :D so yea it has potential

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AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 5
8/24/2011 1:51:16   
jarrenh1
Member

This makes me want to try the class
I think it has great potential if the right build is used considering you kill me every time Shadow
Also the skills are good but i still think it should discard intimidation for assimilation

-Shadow Sentaru
AQ  Post #: 6
8/24/2011 1:51:31   
ShadowQupid
Member
 

 I can bump my own post right? Because I want people to see it and talk about it!!!

"..>Bump<.."

@above NOOOOOOO That's one of the biggest factors of my support build!!!
@Under uhmm that's because you emp'd me -.- plus I still beat you...

< Message edited by ShadowQupid -- 8/24/2011 3:29:06 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 7
8/24/2011 2:48:04   
jarrenh1
Member

That's funny cause it didn't work when i just fought you
AQ  Post #: 8
8/24/2011 7:28:00   
King FrostLich
Member

They are a very good class. If your smart enough, you can beat up a tactical merc but your dex needs to be high to survive their strikes.
Epic  Post #: 9
8/25/2011 2:12:13   
kittycat
Member

Blood Mages are quite powerful due to the ability of restoring HP, making Field Medic less needed.
AQ MQ  Post #: 10
8/25/2011 3:59:22   
TurkishIncubus
Member

BM is a good class if Str TLM got nerf this week i will change to Merc or BM but probably Merc XD

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Epic  Post #: 11
8/25/2011 4:10:59   
voidance
Member

I'm rocking a Support build right now that is just absolutely destroying Tac merc's.

< Message edited by voidance -- 8/25/2011 4:12:23 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 12
8/25/2011 4:49:38   
Hun Kingq
Member

How many battle modes are in Epic Duel?

If there is more than one then how come all of you are just focusing on just 1vs1?

I came up with ideas to help them compete in all battle modes with a high win rate but some of you stated it was overpowered but it would actually balance things out, would you not want to see more Blood Mages on the leaderboard with over 95% win rate?

I have beat many tact merc builds even support in the past week but when I see then constantly getting energy back I really see that as an unfair advantage or that they could take away over 30% of the Blood Mages energy while we can take away none.

So until the Blood mage can get over 95% win rate in all battle modes you can't really brag that much can you?
Epic  Post #: 13
8/25/2011 7:52:49   
King FrostLich
Member

quote:

So until the Blood mage can get over 95% win rate in all battle modes you can't really brag that much can you?


All you need is enough mana to do 1 berserk and 1 heal or just 2 heals at once but it'll cost mana and you can still go on in the battle.
Epic  Post #: 14
8/25/2011 22:20:23   
Hun Kingq
Member

Since no one wants the blood mage to have its own type of hybrid armor that is not on the skill tree I will leave that out of the list.

All you players that play as a Blood Mage you have to wake up and realize the other players that play the other classes don't want balance and don't really care about the Blood Mage class or the Blood Mage class having better skills because they are afraid of real challenges and competition to get easy wins. That is all they want is easy wins.

Ed Staff keep saying there will be balanced but look what happens with every update so there will never be balance no matter how hard they try, let's put the thought of balance aside, forget benefiting the other classes, and look at skills to improve and be better competitors in all battle modes.

Myself I like a Versatile skill tree instead of having a skill tree with just one offensive skill at max that way I have a choice of what skills I want to use and so that the opponent will not not what skill or weapon I will use next, it is called the element of surprise.

So before you attack me or my ideas think about who really cares about the Blood Mage class and why they would not like any of my ideas come to pass.

Intimdation, Reflex boost, and berzerker will be replaced with better skills

Another new skill to replace the linked skills can be the
three strikes of Berzerker combined with the Bludgeon as the final strike
it can be called Taz, the punisher, or the quad strike. With these skills
for the Blood Mage it will break one link from the three classes.

HELO (Health Energy Life Overseer)
If blocked by opponent no health return
If you block opponent no energy return
Energy Required: 0 (passive)
Conversion:
Level 1: 12%
Level 2: 15%
Level 3: 18%
Level 4: 21%
Level 5: 23%
Level 6: 25%
Level 7: 27%
Level 8: 28%
Level 9: 29%
Level 10: 30%

Weapon Required: None
Stat Required: None
Level Required: 5
Improves With: None
Warm Up: None
Cool Down: 0

Return Assimilation back to the Blood Mage but with HELO selected you don't regain energy but it needs to cool down of 2 and take away as much energy as emp since it can still be blocked but when HELO is not selected then with Assimilation you get back either
multiple time the amount of energy or a percentage say 70% or lower.

Evolved Assimilation (no energy return if HELO is selected just energy drain)
HELO (evolved reroute/Blood Lust)

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Epic  Post #: 15
8/25/2011 23:08:45   
voidance
Member

Pretty sure I suggested something similar to that animation for a tier 3 weapon a few weeks back called Quad-Strike but it's w/e. Anyways I think in order to truely understand what Blood mage needs to be better you have to have played it for awhile which I don't think you have if any at all, meaning although it's your god given right to speak freely I also don't consider your ideas well thought through since you have no real experience as a blood mage and it's struggle.

< Message edited by voidance -- 8/25/2011 23:09:41 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 16
8/25/2011 23:28:33   
FrostWolv
Member

exactly voidance

@ Hun Kingq ... speaking of versatility after TLM .. I think BM is the most versatile class

But the main problem BM is facing is very low life steal if put up against TLM ... Blood Lust is not at all resulting a better output (coz of their defense) and now since Berzerk is totally Nerfd ... Its hard to get a proper life steal

BM has a potential and hopefully after ____ days with balance update BM will be appreciated
Epic  Post #: 17
8/26/2011 0:47:59   
Stabilis
Member

A bloody race of fighters without decent melee strikes, how sad.
AQ Epic  Post #: 18
8/26/2011 1:38:22   
voidance
Member

I'm actually helping fellow Blood Mages in the Battle Strategy section with builds and what not, kinda like a Blood Mages Guide thread.

< Message edited by voidance -- 8/26/2011 1:39:05 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 19
8/26/2011 18:48:04   
Hun Kingq
Member

Well, let see how long have I been playing a Blood mage on two different accounts and beat all kinds of Tact merc builds and won every 2vs2 I played in, beat regular Bounty Hunters of all builds as well as tech mages, figured out what I needed to do before battling the new bosses, help ten players beat the armor hazard, and with my lower level Blood mage (not anymore) I beat George Lowe, Nightwrath, and Big Tuna without enhanced gear.

The answer to how long I been playing a Blood Mage on two different acounts is since day one. So voidance you just embarrassed yourself and showed a great deal of disrespect by making a wrong assumption and questioning my experience and insight into the class. The Blood Mage class needs these improved unlinked skills. My ideas are well thoughtout and because of that I get attacked and have I ever attacked you or your ideas or questioned your experience or knowledge? I ask questions but no player ever answers them, why is that? Do you not know the answers or are you afraid to answer them because it might be the wrong answer and if you tell the wrong answer I am the only one that will not attack you if you are wrong because I am not like that but other players will.

I have analyzed battles and I have come up with the solutions to increase the win% and help the Blood Mage class to better competitors in all battle modes as well as getting rid of this linked skills mess to other classes because of the mercs abusive nature they nerfed berzerker and when they did that it screwed over the Blood Mage class.

FrostWolv, the versatility I am speaking of is dealing with using more than one or two skills on the skill tree because of the lack of energy return or the fact that we have to take away points from strength, dex, tech, or support to put into energy to use more than three skills, so if your a player like me and want a chance to use every skill on the skill tree, that is being a versatile fighter and the other classes would have to guess what you will do next but if you only have one or two skills at max then they know as soon as you use that skill you have no energy and know to use skills or weapons to get the most damage because you can't heal or get very liitle from max Blood Lust.
Epic  Post #: 20
8/26/2011 19:09:09   
ShadowQupid
Member
 

 @Hun Kingq
Please suggest skills in the suggestion part of the forums not here, thank you.

I'd actually rather what blood mages have now than anything else(Yes, mostly because that is what my build requires)

Note: Keep this a discussion, do not turn it into an argument.. Any words are thrown (Does not have to be a "curseword") I will have to ask for it to be locked, so...

Is Blood Mage a GOOD CLASS or NOT and WHY?

< Message edited by ShadowQupid -- 8/26/2011 19:13:46 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 21
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