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11/27/2011 20:55:24   
Ben1301
Member

These promotional offers are getting out of hand. I think it is absurd that ED has items that can only be bought through purchasing a $50 varium package. I already bought a package a year ago, and I have 3k varium left but find nothing to spend it on due to all the new exclusive items with no option of purchasing them in-game. I don't see any reason why the rares can't be bought in-game, except for the enormous greed of Artix Entertainment. What do you guys think?
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11/27/2011 21:06:06   
Stabilis
Member

^ They do this because of the testing phase they are in, the "era". I wouldn't mind this part, because they think its cute. But... the fact that you buy a varium package twice in the same promo is annoying because:

You're supposed to expect extras with the more varium that you buy.

If you can't have more than 2 delta sets that is really annoying...

Makes me want to... not buy more promo packages.

How do you like them apples developers?
AQ Epic  Post #: 2
11/27/2011 21:18:29   
Ashari
Inconceivable!


 Recently the staff has tried to avoid having too many promo-only exclusives in a short time. In fact, the only promotion we've had for the past 5 months has been the Delta weapon set.

A lot of players have the opposite opinion, Ben1301, and there lies the problem. Many would like promotions to be short lasting so they can get something new each time they buy Varium. On the other hand, making them too often will make lots of players feel like they're missing out and leave them with Varium they can't spend. It's not possible to make everyone happy, but the staff is trying to make promotions at a reasonable rate.

It's a good question. How long do you feel promotions should last?
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 3
11/27/2011 21:23:13   
ngshuyi94
Member

^ Once every 3 to 4 months, maybe?

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Epic  Post #: 4
11/27/2011 21:30:10   
Stabilis
Member

^
^ Monthly (GIVE OR TAKE 1 WEEK).

i) Although some players may feel left out, there is always a chance to redeem yourself on the next available promo.

ii) Proportional to the number of promos a player would have is to how much personal wealth they have. So, even though someone might be buying every single promo, they still give up $50 just to buy an extra in a video game. Who wins, the buyer or the ED enterprise? ED of course, they get more funds!!!

iii) Each promo should be equal or greater than the previous. So, even though a player may have the 10 recent promos, another player regardless of their wealth can buy the current promo and be on equal terms. Nice eh?

iv) With the extra work the developers will be more motivated to be on task. Possibly with the results ED will require more hands?

v) People who buy more often than quite a few months will be less distracted by promo discouragement (the buying of the same promo ordeal).

< Message edited by greenrain13 -- 11/27/2011 22:44:04 >
AQ Epic  Post #: 5
11/27/2011 22:11:15   
Elf Priest JZaanu
Constructive!


 There is not need for promos. What makes promos worthy is because they are more powerful then the in-game items. By adding promos, just like in Gamma, players will be dependent on those items over in-game.
If you decide to add them make them non essential items like bikes/homes/house items.

Having them exclusive for the varium package means increased inflation for them in-game if not at all. Each of my accounts(2) I ended up with over 20k varium because of the in-game inflation and the non availability. And now, I can finally use them.

Sadly many players became spoiled for them. Keep them in-game or non essential items.

I give firm No, on Varium package promos.

< Message edited by JZaanu -- 11/27/2011 22:12:16 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 6
11/27/2011 22:29:00   
Stabilis
Member

Jzaanu, like all items, promotional items can be controlled. Therefore they don't have to be overpowered. What I may suggest are items which are as powerful as the top item without going overboard.

I know some of you have been traumatized by previous promos (stun guns), but it doesn't have to be like that again ever... it doesn't!

I say we give promos another chance and increase the rate drastically without developing OP items.
AQ Epic  Post #: 7
11/27/2011 22:33:26   
FrostHS
Banned


 I can say I only missed out on ONE promo. The coolest one in my opinion, the Rixty Rippers D: I really would give a lot just to have them, they look awesome. Also, make the Promo's not only the 50$ package but the one below it too. The 50$ one would give you both the items, while the one below it would give you the choice of ONE out of the two items.
AQW Epic  Post #: 8
11/27/2011 22:43:53   
shaolin hunt
Member

If you think it's out of hand now, you should go back to Gamma. There were way more promos back then.
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 9
11/28/2011 8:25:32   
Ben1301
Member

I agree with JZaanu. It's already obvious that the Delta weapons will be pretty overpowered, and I find it ridiculous that I cannot have access to any Delta weapons even though I have contributed to the game before.
Not to mention how ED never buffs any old promotional weapons. I have the Azrael's Bane, the king of its day, and it can't even compare to these new weapons.

< Message edited by Ben1301 -- 11/28/2011 8:26:31 >
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11/28/2011 8:39:47   
  Digital X

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 It is not wise (i think at least) to have a promo item/s too close together, for example, one a month. Players that want the new or best equipment may not be able to obtain the needed Points or money that is required to get the items. 3-4 months does sound a more reasonable time frame to be honest. As it gives them longer to prepare for the upcoming items and more people will benefit from this because they will have a greater chance of getting them.

Edit: @ below, so you did, didn't notice until now.

< Message edited by Digital X -- 11/28/2011 9:55:46 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 11
11/28/2011 9:22:38   
ngshuyi94
Member

^ Same idea like mine up there. ^^^
Epic  Post #: 12
11/28/2011 9:51:15   
Smackie El Frog
Member

I agree with making them every few months. But promo weapons are lots of fun when they are released but only if you have a deep enough wallet.

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AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 13
11/28/2011 12:29:29   
TurkishIncubus
Member

Its very normal to have "phase items" (beta-gamma-delta) as only purchaseable with 10k pack but i agree with you for other promos like Stun Guns why admins didnt put them in game i dont understand.

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Epic  Post #: 14
11/28/2011 18:45:42   
rej
Member

I feel that promotional items are fine, even benificial, AS LONG AS they are available in game for a reasonable price.

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AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 15
11/28/2011 18:58:47   
Jekyll
Member

NW conformed that there will be a new promo on twitter.
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 16
11/28/2011 19:16:23   
Stabilis
Member

So whats so bad if you miss a single promo I ask?

Its not like there is no more opportunity if a new promo equal to or greater becomes released.

EDIT: Skit:

Day 1:

*The new promo gives a new house and a set of guns*

You- Oh a new promo is out, looks cool I want to buy it!

Day 2:

You- Looks like it'll be a few more days before I can buy it...

Day 3:

You- Crap the promo is over!!!

*The new promo gives a set of guns with a special effect called burn which burns the enemy over time comparable to poison*

You- Oh sweet these guns look just as awesome!

You- *Buys the promo*



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.
.
See guys as long as you have a good attitude and a sense of acceptance (of fate... like ME!), changing promos won't hurt you so much with regret you really have to see the bright side of things.

< Message edited by greenrain13 -- 11/28/2011 19:22:09 >
AQ Epic  Post #: 17
11/29/2011 3:12:50   
sotsemod
Member

Imho promo items should be powerful, but not the MOST powerful in the game. there must be alternatives which are the same good!
for example, i need an energy primary due to my build and tactics. but all energy primaries are too weak compared to delta weapons and dont have so many enhancement slots. so i have to buy this package with delta weapons and use them, which will change my play style completely. i wouldnt like this, but there are no alternatives. otherwise i will always lose to those with delta weapons.
my only hope is that they will produce some good energy weapons in the next release, but this hope is very faint.
AQW Epic  Post #: 18
11/29/2011 5:30:02   
Drianx
Member

If there should be promotions, at least make well-thought and worthy promotions, not just a bunch of overpowered items for the top level only.

For example, comparing beta and delta promotions:

1. Betas were class-mutating, deltas are not.
- Secret purpose: make players buy enhancements for every class-specific delta weapon when they change class.

2. Just like founder armor, Betas existed in lv12 version too, in order to help a low level varium buyer advance through levels. Deltas are only for the high levels, thus not appealing for lower levels.
Secret purpose: make low level varium players pay more, by making them buy and enhance multiple weapons as they advance through levels, instead of relying on a single set.

3. Betas were primary, gun, and aux. Deltas are only primaries.
Secret purpose: same as the above.

4. Betas were also available for the 3rd varium pack. Deltas are not.
Secret purpose: guess!

5. Betas were not the best weapons for cap level, Deltas arguably are.

Results: betas were indeed a well-thought and worthy promo, while deltas seem like fast-food for the stat-points-hungry cap level players.

@moderators - before deleting this post, just keep in mind I'm not just bashing the game and devs. It would be a pleasure for me to actually notice they learned something from such posts.
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