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2/12/2012 18:06:20   
DeathGuard
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Have you stop to think what future awaits us if all become stat abusers? Dear players, don't you hear the yells of the skill players being overshadowed by those non-thinking stat abusers? They don't stand a chance anymore, the only option to escape is to become a stat abuser. Tech Mages, Mercenaries and Blood Mages are being crushed bit by bit and actual good and thinked builds are being crushed too, we are just going the way to destruction, they're several builds that can stand against but they aren't enough to stop such tank builds and strength spamming builds. Nerfing class is doing nothing! Buff the other classes, I'm tired of hearing the same crap every balance update and I'm serious this time, why don't buff the other classes, the suppose nerfing does nothing but limit them to nothing! Buff other classes to see the real difference, we have been asking for balance and we can't get that, this isn't testing balance, IS MAKING BALANCE!
Wake up Balance Team, why don't you use nonvarium weapons and use classes like tech mage or merc against a full ch tank if you see you can stand and at least you will see how can you fix the class iself. Devs, take in mind this:
Trapped between the morning and night itself, a star travels through the same path again and again. Just as a star has a limit for being too far away in the universe, stats shouldn't be permitted to get to high, else when we get to higher lvls, we will have noobs spamming with more than +200 strength. This is not for my benefit but for the benefit of the game, because sooner or later I will stop playing and stop caring about this. You will lose soon your community if you continue the same cycle.
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2/12/2012 18:15:15   
PD
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 Where the heck were you when I was talking about Stat inflation 2 years ago?
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2/12/2012 18:18:00   
DeathGuard
Member

@PD: I was blind about reality
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2/12/2012 18:24:03   
Wraith
Member
 

 Fine, fine.

Why don't we just all Tank?

And that isn't abusing, despite me having more stats in 3 sections than the average abuser.
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2/12/2012 18:26:54   
DeathGuard
Member

Tank? It is worst, longer battles, same strategies, no fun on tanking dude, it just screws balance just as stat abusing.
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2/12/2012 18:54:18   
rej
Member

Thankfully, pure stat abuse will not get you very far in the current balance climate.
If you place as many stat points in strength as possible, you will be blocked very often, you will rarely go first, and your Smokescreen/Malfunction will be weak. If you use pure dexterity abuse, you will only be able to have one or two powerful hits, while the rest of your attacks do 3-10. If you abuse only tech, your smokescreen and bot will deal large amounts, but as with pure dexterity abuse, most of your attacks will be pitiful. If you abuse support, then you don't even come close to standing a chance against other players.
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2/12/2012 19:00:32   
DeathGuard
Member

quote:

Thankfully, pure stat abuse will not get you very far in the current balance climate.

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when we get to higher lvls
Higher lvls: 45-50 not 34, currently if we get to lvl 45, we will have 44 stat points more to spend, plus more stat modifiers and more damage base on weapons, meaning we would be able to have around +50 in a ny stat without enhancements and if we add base stats and enhancements, we would get really crushed at higher lvls, unless we use hp + dex+ plus some skill dex base improvement+ any debuffing, but I doubt we would stand a chance against them.
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2/12/2012 19:03:12   
Wraith
Member
 

 We'll also have more OP armors, more powerful Hybrid etc, and more defense.

And if STR has no Strangth, why would people use it?

And in either case, you abuse a stat: energy >_>

Tank = slow, high %
STR: Fast, low %
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2/12/2012 19:06:51   
Sageofpeace
Member

Stat Abuser really?Tank>

what kinda build is supposed to be fun?if their is one in which you agree on it which you be kind enough to shared with the rest?

and doesn't the player earn the right to distribute their stat point as they wish? is their account right
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2/12/2012 19:25:17   
DeathGuard
Member

quote:

We'll also have more OP armors, more powerful Hybrid etc, and more defense.

And if STR has no Strangth, why would people use it?
Strength should have a limit as many other stats, e.g. you can surpass more than 99 strength if you have 60 tech/or sup. If strength is as powerful as you said to be the most used, then it needs to get nerf, but I prefer buffing other stats.

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Stat Abuser really?Tank>
2 different types of builds not one.

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what kinda build is supposed to be fun?if their is one in which you agree on it which you be kind enough to shared with the rest?
non-spamming builds and non-tanking builds, why don't try some of your creative builds

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and doesn't the player earn the right to distribute their stat point as they wish? is their account right
They have the right, I didn't say the don't but stat abusing should be stopped, you really don't understand how this game will fall so easily.
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2/12/2012 19:32:21   
AQWPlayer
Member

Remember that one man's liberty ends where another's begins. You may not ruin a fellow gamer's PvP experience by pure stat abusing...or so I thought.
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2/12/2012 19:34:24   
Sageofpeace
Member

non-spamming builds and non-tanking builds does any of those build get you wins if they do i don't see the reason why soo many players complain about balance

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2/12/2012 19:45:43   
DeathGuard
Member

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non-spamming builds and non-tanking builds does any of those build get you wins if they do i don't see the reason why soo many players complain about balance
Try and try, waste more than 100k credits on it as I have did through all the career of my main character, let your creativity mix skills and such, who would think max bludgeon and supercharge did such great job in 1 vs 1.

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Remember that one man's liberty ends where another's begins. You may not ruin a fellow gamer's PvP experience by pure stat abusing...or so I thought.
Thanks for the phrase you will let me explain my point to sageofpeace which is :

Non-spamming and non-tanking gets you wins, they do, BUT most of the time you get crushed by those builds.
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2/12/2012 19:55:29   
OmilliYo
Member

yea a cyber hunter tank can heal like 5+ times in a battle. but all experienced commander + members can make any class powerful.
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2/12/2012 20:00:54   
DeathGuard
Member

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yea a cyber hunter tank can heal like 5+ times in a battle. but all experienced commander + members can make any class powerful.
I will add something, if you have varium items plus all enhanced you have a great chance, if you have medium enhances you may have a chance, if you got nonvarium items and they aren't enhanced, meet you in the hounds of hell ^__^

< Message edited by DeathGuard -- 2/12/2012 20:01:43 >
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2/12/2012 20:41:40   
The Game
Pegasus Overlord


 It is apparent to me that this thread was made for the purpose of pointing out that there is an issue with stat abuse and, while that is great and all, rhetoric alone will not get the job done. In order to make any sort of progression, viable solutions and discussion regarding how to fix existing and prevent future complications needs to take place. With that being said, the =ED= Balance Discussion Thread as well as the ED Suggestions forum are the two appropriate mediums through which progress can be made. Please utilize those resources next time.

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