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2/10/2013 0:08:37   
Remorse
Member

Now that their is 70+ energy on high level players.


I think they should allow the energy drain gun skill core to be used more then once a game by say having a 3 turn cool down separate from the side arm attack.

This is because the energy drain deals no damage and drains quite a small amount, it's in definite need of a buff and making it usable more then once would do just that.
Epic  Post #: 1
2/10/2013 0:50:00   
RageSoul
Member

Was going to suggest something about it , but this one's better . Supported !
AQW Epic  Post #: 2
2/10/2013 0:57:00   
DeathiZClarity
Banned


 For the most part, i support it.

But it isnt in need of a buff, it could do -2 and i would be happy, i only use it to take away just enough energy for no berserker. and if the generator...i use atomic smash.
Post #: 3
2/10/2013 8:29:54   
theholyfighter
Member

What if Str builds abuse it? Its energy taken is based on your gun damage....
AQW Epic  Post #: 4
2/10/2013 9:48:43   
Remorse
Member

^ Its not gun damage with STR,

Its literally just your gun damage, which is basically your level.


So what it practically means is, based on your level.


Side note, it also doesn't take into consideration of deadly aim.

< Message edited by Remorse -- 2/10/2013 9:50:35 >
Epic  Post #: 5
2/10/2013 10:19:56   
Stabilis
Member

I support this, and I would also mind to suggest for skill cores to be based on LEVEL so anyone can use them to their full extent regardless of the setup of their stats or skills.

< Message edited by Depressed Void -- 2/10/2013 10:21:27 >
AQ Epic  Post #: 6
2/10/2013 10:51:28   
Giras Wolfe
Member

Strength builds cant abuse an energy drain. They have low defenses so every turn they're not doing 40 damage to you is a turn wasted.

I would support the ability to use the skill multiple times. This would be helpful in long battles against reroute players.
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 7
2/10/2013 11:09:55   
Remorse
Member

^ Exactly,

reroute opponents with 70 energy to start are almost immune to energy drains, if you add the extra gun one then it could make for a viable counter for heal loopers should they ever arise when support increases heal again.
Epic  Post #: 8
2/10/2013 11:43:04   
Midnightsoul
Member

Personally, I think the gun energy steal needs to take more energy...
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 9
2/10/2013 13:56:49   
Warmaker04
Member
 

 Agreed pretty much with Remorse. Now people have 70 energy and we can just steal like 13-14-15 energy with the gun which is pretty useless now.
It needs an improvement.
AQW Epic  Post #: 10
2/11/2013 1:47:35   
Midnightsoul
Member

I think base energy should just be lowered to the good ol' 41-47 energy like what classes had from Alpha-Delta...

Health remains the same.
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 11
2/11/2013 3:45:54   
Remorse
Member

^ I actually like the high energy, makes for some more creative builds which means I wont have to sacrifice defense or power for energy to use them which is great.


Only problem is that it also beneficial for STR builds for example , but a strong nerf to those skill should fix that.
Epic  Post #: 12
2/11/2013 4:45:34   
the final hour
Banned


 i dnt know how useful that core is period till strengh is nerfed it suicidal to waste a turn doing no damage against most abuse builds that are rolling around as it is.
Post #: 13
2/11/2013 4:50:39   
Remorse
Member

^ You know how useful it is when you use it against a build that isn't STR.


Not every single player in omega uses STR, I admit most do, but not all.
Epic  Post #: 14
2/11/2013 4:53:01   
the final hour
Banned


 a skill core that isnt useful against most is abit worthless . however i have to admit against some builds it can be useful . but when said builds are in the minority .... yeah
Post #: 15
2/11/2013 6:30:58   
theholyfighter
Member

quote:

^ Its not gun damage with STR


Nope, it's your total gun damage.
AQW Epic  Post #: 16
2/11/2013 10:56:21   
zion
Member

It does take into account all str and DA - Still I think it still needs a buff b/c right now its not nearly useful as causing direct damage, besides for the 2% of time that you absolutely need to stop a strong attack.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 17
2/11/2013 12:10:09   
Remorse
Member

^ It does???


Wow didnt think it did because it still hit low when I was using a STR build with deadly aim...


That just goes to show it can't really be abused,

If it can't take off much from a STR abusing blood mage..
Epic  Post #: 18
2/11/2013 12:35:12   
Ranloth
Banned


 If base 10 EP that was added in Omega will be taken away ( http://forums2.battleon.com/f/fb.asp?m=21107456 ), this shouldn't be a problem. I find it okay; I may only take 13 Energy or so with 13-36 +35 +9 (IIRC), but it's not a full EP drain skill such as Atom or EMP but a Core which means it should have less power, even despite the fact it's once per battle.

Only BMs may find it low. TM can use it alongside with Assimilate and other classes have 2 strong ones, in case of BH and CH it'll be 2 unblockable at that.
AQ Epic  Post #: 19
2/11/2013 15:03:49   
the final hour
Banned


 ^ please use two turns emping me regardless of the build im on
Post #: 20
2/11/2013 23:59:37   
theholyfighter
Member

^ Yep, since it is 25% of your gun damage... Therefore, 4 more strength into one energy taken=not a big difference....However, I tried a build and had a buddy challenge me. He Intimidated me leaving me 2+35 strength left. I used the gun and it took away 9 energy, a number I've never seen when using a focus build(13+35).
AQW Epic  Post #: 21
2/12/2013 0:00:46   
theholyfighter
Member

quote:

If base 10 EP that was added in Omega will be taken away ( http://forums2.battleon.com/f/fb.asp?m=21107456 ), this shouldn't be a problem. I find it okay; I may only take 13 Energy or so with 13-36 +35 +9 (IIRC), but it's not a full EP drain skill such as Atom or EMP but a Core which means it should have less power, even despite the fact it's once per battle.

Only BMs may find it low. TM can use it alongside with Assimilate and other classes have 2 strong ones, in case of BH and CH it'll be 2 unblockable at that.


Yep, but IMO it shouldn't take our sidearm into cooldown.
AQW Epic  Post #: 22
2/12/2013 1:39:48   
Remorse
Member

^ I agree,

Because it deals no actual damage,


If it was a weaker gun attack which also drained a bit of energy, that would be diffrent.

Epic  Post #: 23
2/12/2013 1:55:43   
ImBlack109
Member

I actually agree with this one. Because if the core was on 3 cooldown,it would help.
AQW Epic  Post #: 24
2/12/2013 3:12:00   
Ranloth
Banned


 Then don't use the Core. You'd have to pick which cores don't go into cooldown and which do, so why should a special ability not do so whilst offensive core has to put Gun into cooldown? Effect vs. Damage, simple as.
AQ Epic  Post #: 25
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