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8/3/2013 10:39:11   
fihtzroy
Member

Matching system is way off on 2vs2,

Got matched with 2 lvl 34s legion players and me(lvl 33 exile) is paired up with either a lvl 27 or 28, which happened to me more than three times in less than an hour.

thats 7 levels of gap, clearly a mismatch, which the devs failed to see in this patch.

I'm hoping this would be addressed soon.
AQ  Post #: 1
8/3/2013 11:16:04   
Steel Slayer
Member

The problem is, there are fewer high level exiles than legions. Its the main reason exile is winning the war, since low level fights tend to be much shorter, and before the patch, level 20-something exiles got a ton of influence by fighting each other, which if you think about it makes very little sense from a war standpoint, why would you get credit for kills if it's your allies you're killing? I've been seeing the same thing as you all day, heck earlier I had a fight with 2 level 35 Legion vs a 29 and a 30 Exile. Why? No 35 exiles on for us to fight. Problem is, there is no way for the devs to address this difference in level between the 2 factions.
Epic  Post #: 2
8/3/2013 12:11:09   
Segawoman
Member

quote:

The problem is, there are fewer high level exiles than legions.


No, that is not the case. Many of Legioners decided to switch alignments because they know that they wouldn't win it unless they try harder.

quote:

Its the main reason exile is winning the war


Wrong and biased information, the Exiles are far more organized than the Legioners and some people caressed to fight for what they think is right, virtually.

quote:

heck earlier I had a fight with 2 level 35 Legion vs a 29 and a 30 Exile


Is it just me or has anyone forgotten the Alignment Switching feature which mostly every Level 35's could afford?

This also counts as timing which is needed to fight alongside with a high-level Legioner.
From what I know, most higher levels from both alignments are busy in 1V1 but mostly Exile.

The reason why the Exiles are winning is because of the two Exile giants called 'Vivid' and 'Guap' as you can see earning 2000+ 1V1 faction wins everyday.





< Message edited by Segawoman -- 8/3/2013 12:14:15 >
Epic  Post #: 3
8/3/2013 12:18:25   
Ranloth
Banned
quote:

Many of Legioners decided to switch alignments because they know that they wouldn't win it unless they try harder.

No. That's wrong. Don't assume something if you cannot back it up with date. Read more: http://forums2.battleon.com/f/fb.asp?m=21389847

What SS has said is true. There's more Legion players at high-end level but less in the mid-level range (20-30), and the opposite for Exile players. Rabble has already spoke about it before that this is the case but didn't want to disclose the information whether it's more high-end level players for Legion or Exile, but it's obvious now. Read more: http://forums2.battleon.com/f/fb.asp?m=21325869
AQ Epic  Post #: 4
8/3/2013 12:27:46   
Segawoman
Member

quote:

There's more Legion players at high-end level but less in the mid-level range (20-30)


How does that make sense when he's trying to say that there are more Exiles with higher levels than Legion?

And I might be wrong about the Alignment Switching taking place and I might need to keep up-to-date about RF's sayings.

Yes, this WAS the case, this doesn't mean it was undone consisting the players' Alignment changes, by the way.


< Message edited by Segawoman -- 8/3/2013 12:29:05 >
Epic  Post #: 5
8/3/2013 12:29:55   
Ranloth
Banned


 Actually, he's saying the opposite. He got paired up with L27/28 and he's L33 himself, and had to fight two L34s which speaks for itself. I've fought earlier too and it was the same case.

Based on the data from players, it is still the case - not enough high level Exiles to make up for it so the match-up system will lower its range after a bit so the search doesn't end up being too slow.
AQ Epic  Post #: 6
8/3/2013 12:36:46   
Segawoman
Member

Uhh fihtzroy said that he was matched against 2 Level 34 Legioners and him being a Level 33 Exile teamed up with a low level Exile.

BUT - Steel Slayer said that the Exiles have more higher level players than Legion when fitzy said that he was matched with higher level Legioners giving a disadvantage to EXILES!

CONFUSING.

< Message edited by Segawoman -- 8/3/2013 12:37:46 >
Epic  Post #: 7
8/3/2013 12:41:06   
Dual Thrusters
Member

Getting matched with your own alignments are like blocks and deflections.

They have a low chance of occurring, yet appear very often. They also make players rage.
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 8
8/3/2013 12:43:26   
Segawoman
Member

quote:

Actually, he's saying the opposite. He got paired up with L27/28 and he's L33 himself


That's fihtzroy, not SS.

Steel Slayer's Level 35.





< Message edited by Segawoman -- 8/3/2013 12:46:28 >
Epic  Post #: 9
8/4/2013 0:12:43   
fihtzroy
Member

Thing is, either your matched with the same alignment or not, there should be a maximum allowed level gap. How can you win a 2vs2 match with 7-8 levels behind? That is clearly a mismatch from the start. As I remember before this patch only a maximum 3 levels of gap is allowed (with both levels combined versus the other). That same concept should still be implemented. I like the idea of matching you against the opposite alignment, however it should still be fair like before. As you can see a lvl 33 and 27 is clearly no match from 2 lvl 34s same alignment or not. I just hope I am clearing things out, I'm not against the concept of matching you vs the opposite alignment, just the idea of allowed level gap as compared to before this patch.

< Message edited by fihtzroy -- 8/4/2013 0:14:21 >
AQ  Post #: 10
8/4/2013 0:16:47   
Mother1
Member

@ fihtroy

Actually the gap at the max for 2 vs 2 is 6 levels. For 1 vs 1 it is 5. When it goes further then those, then there is a problem. However before this feature was put back in there was more of a player pool to choose from so it would rarely choose to the 6 level gap for 2 vs 2.

Now that this feature has been added once again it has added another filter which causes the player pool to get smaller, and because of this now it is choosing player to fill this gap. It has happened the first time they did this as well.
Epic  Post #: 11
8/4/2013 0:23:40   
fihtzroy
Member

@Mother1

Nope there were cases wherein it was 8 levels. If your playing 2vs2 and you got the shorter end of the stick you would understand. 2 lvl 35s vs a lvl 30 and a 35 is already a mismatch, what more is a 2 lvl 34 vs a lvl 33 and a lvl 27. And NO I haven't had any max lvl gap of more than 3 in 2vs2 before this patch, I 've done nothing in ED but just do 2vs2 all the time and believe me when I say this If I we're getting more than that before I would have posted sooner. I just wish they would simply bring back the old matching system before this patch. Clearly this one is an EPIC FAIL. I won't be playing 2vs2 until they release something that would fix this issue.

Thanks
AQ  Post #: 12
8/4/2013 0:35:05   
Mother1
Member

@ fihtzroy

I was talking about before they changed it back to legion vs exile. it also shows on wiki that the max gap is suppose to be 6 levels. and as for the range being messed up I have seen a range of 10 where my opponents were on the short end of the stick. Also I have also been on the short end of the stick, but it isn't nearly as bad for me since I am capped leveled.

As for reverting it back, that would be nice, but if they did that, then the people on the losing side of the war would once again complain like they did the first time around.

There just isn't enough levels on both sides to go around and make this fair. It is making match ups worse, and it happened before as I said when they did it the first time.
Epic  Post #: 13
8/4/2013 0:36:16   
Dual Thrusters
Member

Seriously? I get alot of low level partners and we can still kick butt together! What's a messed up system against a tough team

But yea, I feel sorry for the lower levels. Couldn't they just narrow the gap for this war?
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 14
8/4/2013 0:39:13   
Mother1
Member

@ dual

While I can agree with you on that first part in some cases (since there have been times I have won matches where we were at a 3-4 level disadvantage) having a 7 level + disadvatange that shouldn't be happening is another thing. It is even worse when you have a 35 on one team, and the highest level on the other team isn't even close to that level.
Epic  Post #: 15
8/4/2013 0:45:07   
fihtzroy
Member

@Mother1,

I see, however the patch really did something good for a dread wars, but they also have a (super) negative effect on the game in general. I would rather have a decent matching system than a decent dread wars. After all how will you be enjoying the dread wars if at some point you're fighting a losing match? I would rather wait longer on the match queing than getting an unbalance match. If the second time the matching system failed after imlpementing, then why implement it at all? Just saying, an unbalanced PVP game is not a pvp game at all, its more like a farming game for those on the higher lvls
AQ  Post #: 16
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