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8/3/2013 4:21:29   
Segawoman
Member

Most people would say 'who would use Delta weapons in battle, it's pointless'.

Exactly why it is necessary to buff this skill core.

Not only it takes away only 30% of your opponent's support but they've locked the skill core!

Funny thing is that they've buffed Curse at the start of Omega to find balance.

You don't really see people using the Delta weapons anymore now that you have new and more powerful skill cores.

I just don't see the point, which is why this needs to buff up to 55%. 25% more of today's Curse.

Adding a debuff in the skill core system was really, for me, a bad thing to do, especially if they're either too powerful like possible combinations like Malfunction and Omega Override or Smokescreen and Omega Override. But why not buff up the skill core that takes away Support. It's only going to decrease the chances to not being stunned and to crit.

I can see now that Polly's new Support Mercenary build is intact then why not, why not?

Most duelists miss the Delta phase, then why not give them a flippin' piece of it instead of refusing to change every single thing from Omega?







< Message edited by Segawoman -- 8/3/2013 4:27:01 >
Epic  Post #: 1
8/3/2013 5:05:33   
Ranloth
Banned


 They've been buffed already before, Curse used to be 20% or 25% before. If you buff that, you will have to buff Omega's core as well, not mentioning the Botanical weapon's one that boosts your Support - we were told that they are all equal so if you buff one, others must be done too.

About the buff, nope. Cores are supposed to give you an advantage, not a big one like you may think.
AQ Epic  Post #: 2
8/3/2013 5:12:05   
Segawoman
Member

quote:

Funny thing is that they've buffed Curse at the start of Omega to find balance.


Don't you think I already know that?

And the Auxiliaries don't even need Support!

They now go up to 39 DMG!

quote:

Cores are supposed to give you an advantage, not a big one like you may think.


True, but one speculation consisting this thread's existence.

They'd need to try to make the Delta weapons easier to contribute in the war not by taking away less Support in %, not even base debuff.

If it could be more fairer, then buff it up to 40-45% tops.

< Message edited by Segawoman -- 8/3/2013 5:17:47 >
Epic  Post #: 3
8/3/2013 5:33:47   
Ranloth
Banned
quote:

And the Auxiliaries don't even need Support!

Yeah, what about the +39 damage? We're at Lvl 35, it's normal. It was the same in the past yet Support was still used to buff up the Aux. It affects few other things as well.

quote:

If it could be more fairer, then buff it up to 40-45% tops.

No. Cores are NOT supposed to change the tide of the battle but aid you. 40-45%? Let's use 150 Support build and that's... -60 to -68 Support. No. It's NOT supposed to be always useful, it will be weaker in certain situations and stronger in others.

Also, rares are not to be buffed. There's policy against it. Yes, it was buffed but it was alongside other cores which were lacking behind so it was unreasonable to have 2-3 cores of same type being stronger/weaker than each other. Otherwise buffs will not be given.
AQ Epic  Post #: 4
8/3/2013 5:43:41   
Segawoman
Member

quote:

Also, rares are not to be buffed. There's policy against it.


They buffed Curse before (?)

And you might be right about the cores not supposively be a MASSIVE help but when you look at it that way - unblockable cores like Plasma Meteor and Meteor Shower with 110% DMG is much much more powerful than a RARE.

quote:

Most duelists miss the Delta phase, then why not give them a flippin' piece of it instead of refusing to change every single thing from Omega?




< Message edited by Segawoman -- 8/3/2013 5:46:39 >
Epic  Post #: 5
8/3/2013 5:48:23   
Ranloth
Banned


 Yes. Curse was buffed and I've already explained the reason. <.<

quote:

And you might be right about the cores not supposively be a MASSIVE help but when you look at it that way - unblockable cores like Plasma Meteor and Meteor Shower with 110% DMG is much much more powerful than a RARE.

Cores have different purposes. Meteor are pure damage, Omega/Curse are debuffs. Also, Thorn Assault/Jack-o-Fire are stronger.
AQ Epic  Post #: 6
8/3/2013 6:02:52   
Segawoman
Member

quote:

Cores have different purposes. Meteor are pure damage, Omega/Curse are debuffs. Also, Thorn Assault/Jack-o-Fire are stronger.


I was only talking about Curse, not the other Promotional and Seasonal cores which would be obviously stronger as Thorn Assault has 5% of damage higher than Plasma Meteor and Jack-O-Fire has 3% of damage higher than Meteor Shower as a significant equality.

But Curse is too far away from that significant equality as an active and rare core!

But Plasma Rain is more weaker than Curse so no worries.
Epic  Post #: 7
8/3/2013 6:07:01   
Ranloth
Banned


 Rare doesn't mean more power. If it is the case then it already has 30% just like rare Omega core, there is NO other core that does it nor a skill. Comparing Multi skill to Support debuffing core is also bad comparison.

Buffs are not granted and will not be. If they are, there is a good reason behind it rather than "buff cuz its weak".
AQ Epic  Post #: 8
8/3/2013 6:13:11   
Segawoman
Member

quote:

Rare doesn't mean more power. If it is the case then it already has 30% just like rare Omega core.


Never thought Omega Override had 30% reduction, thought it was 65% reduction. Thanks for clearing that up. Looks like you're right.

quote:

If they are, there is a good reason behind it rather than "buff cuz its weak".


But that's the only reason why buffs are intended to do or the devs just feel like buffing skills up because they want to.

Epic  Post #: 9
8/3/2013 6:17:19   
Ranloth
Banned


 What. 65%? o.o I assume you mean Azrael's Torment which reduces Shields by 65% *so* it only works if someone uses Shields and useless otherwise, whilst Curse/Override is always useful.

Define weak. Is it underpowered and outclassed by other core(s) or just weak because it is? At 150 Support, it can take away -45 Support which no other debuff can + it's free. At moderate Support, it will be very little usually (up to -20). But it's free, you still attack and it's useful in all situations - just not as much.
It was buffed to 30% since Override was stronger when released so Curse was also bumped up. Or it may've been the other way round but the point remains.
AQ Epic  Post #: 10
8/3/2013 6:23:16   
Segawoman
Member

quote:

It was buffed to 30% since Override was stronger when released so Curse was also bumped up. Or it may've been the other way round but the point remains.


That's the answer I want! Trans for president.

quote:

What. 65%? o.o I assume you mean Azrael's Torment which reduces Shields by 65%


Yeah.
Epic  Post #: 11
8/3/2013 6:27:58   
Ranloth
Banned


 But it wasn't because it was weak but Override was stronger so since the cores are of the same type, Curse was buffed. It seems logical, don't you think? :P
AQ Epic  Post #: 12
8/3/2013 6:40:49   
Segawoman
Member

Very, but you managed to vary it in one sentence.
Epic  Post #: 13
8/3/2013 12:34:33   
Dual Thrusters
Member

Curse is fine.

Curse Aura....
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 14
8/3/2013 13:32:56   
ED Divine Darkness
Member

curse is fine. it is like yeti( bad comparison, i know). it takes away their offensive options. say they are using a build with support and str, and you have intimidate, then u can totally shut down their offences for 3 turns. that isnt up. it shuts down their offensives, really good vs support spam builds.
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 15
8/3/2013 13:39:31   
Dual Thrusters
Member

@EDD

Exactly, it can save you if your enemy has high support. Remember that post long ago when hottie complained that Curse was OP because it took 47 Support? xD

While the Omega Gear debuffs your opponent's highest stat, Curse always debuffs Suport, which is good or bad depending on how you look at it.

MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 16
8/3/2013 13:41:48   
Segawoman
Member

quote:

Curse Aura....


Just like my reaction to Curse Aura!

Epic  Post #: 17
8/3/2013 13:42:12   
ED Divine Darkness
Member

precisely, dual thrusters

ok, here goes.

delta armour

omega sword

intimidate high lvl



this combo can completely destroy an opponents offensive options. if it would be buffed, it would be too strong. every1 would have to use focus. no buff needed


< Message edited by ED Divine Darkness -- 8/3/2013 13:46:14 >
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 18
8/3/2013 14:53:03   
Dual Thrusters
Member

Buff Curse Aura so that it can activate 30% of the time.
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 19
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