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10/24/2013 12:51:06   
comicalbike
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1h

@playerxx @elonmusk We are releasing balance changes this week as well
i am pleased are you as well
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10/24/2013 12:56:13   
Mother1
Member

That must either mean the dreaded war is over, or they changed their minds about holding back the balance changes until the end of the war. Hoping for the later myself. I want to up my cheevos some more.
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10/24/2013 13:01:31   
Ranloth
Banned


 Or it could be filler balance changes (read: minor) before they turn passives into active skills.
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10/24/2013 18:11:25   
wireclub1990
Banned

 

 Hopefully some serious balance changes are coming in this week then I can get to playing seriously again . and many other if not we'll be back when you do fix things :D
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10/24/2013 20:33:21   
lionblades
Member

Devs look what happened to STR Mercs, FOCUS classes and Caster Mages (HP indirectly, diminishing stats etc.)-----All of these were nerfed, and guess what?

EVERY SINGLE TIME a different class rose to power since these classes were nerfed and there were better options now (STR nerfed->Focus in power-> Focus nerfed->Caster in power-> nerf, nerf, nerf...)

Sidenote: In Omega and Delta I was a caster mage and when STR Mercs started appearing I had no problem at all, but yet STR Merc was nerfed and hardely anyone plays it anymore: the cycle will continue if you continue to purely nerf!
In this case nerfing it led to less build options to play competitively! Try buffing some other classes like the TLM instead of nerfing!

Thus Devs, if you are considering to nerf classes, before nerfing anything I advise you all to reconsider other options

< Message edited by lionblades -- 10/24/2013 20:34:24 >
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10/24/2013 20:37:51   
wireclub1990
Banned

 

 ^ then look at the server numbers dev and asks people in game of their opinions regarding balance its not the only reason your player base is almost extinct now but it is certainly not helping

< Message edited by wireclub1990 -- 10/24/2013 20:38:17 >
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10/24/2013 20:41:14   
Ranloth
Banned


 I don't think Devs have mentioned if anything is getting nerfed or buffed. We know balance changes will be carried out, but there's no mention of pure nerfs only.

It'll likely be minor. They may deal with Str BMs - by raising EP cost on Bludgeon or altering its % (slightly). They may deal with Tech-abusing BHs and TM Glass Cannons by altering debuff skills which should've been done at the beginning of Delta (they are more effective with lower HP).
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10/24/2013 20:43:00   
Shajun Ki
Member

Nerfing and buffing is actually what kept the game alive during earlier stages imo but now they've stopped doing so for several months and the server numbers decreased drastically...of course that isn't the only factor but it's probably
the biggest.
Post #: 8
10/24/2013 20:47:11   
Mother1
Member

@ Shajun ki

In all honestly the game doesn't need a few buffs and nerfs. The game needs a Jenny Jones make over. In other words they need to rewrite and rework how everything works. Not just nerf this or buff that because with the current balance of the game, there will almost always be a few builds that work at the top and by buffing or nerfing one thing all they are doing is just passing the torch from one overused build to a new build that will become overused.
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10/24/2013 20:49:43   
lionblades
Member

@Mother1
I agree

One example could be a building: if the foundation is sloppy, no matter how good the top looks the building is bound to fall
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10/24/2013 20:55:47   
Shajun Ki
Member

@mother1Yes I agree with you, this game definitely needs a complete overhaul. I was just saying that the nerfs and buffs neither made the game better or worse because players still played, they still payed money, they still gave feedback on the forums. Now that the team stopped
the server numbers decreased and the forum activity decreased because well now there isn't much to discuss anymore except our own suggestions and ideas and these pathetic "updates."



< Message edited by Shajun Ki -- 10/24/2013 20:56:01 >
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10/24/2013 21:04:44   
wireclub1990
Banned

 
quote:

In all honestly the game doesn't need a few buffs and nerfs. The game needs a Jenny Jones make over. In other words they need to rewrite and rework how everything works. Not just nerf this or buff that because with the current balance of the game, there will almost always be a few builds that work at the top and by buffing or nerfing one thing all they are doing is just passing the torch from one overused build to a new build that will become overused.


We don't always agree but this I agree with . Us agreeing who knew right ?

quote:

One example could be a building: if the foundation is sloppy, no matter how good the top looks the building is bound to fall


Again a accurate assessment that applies to this game right now.


I feel also this post applies here from another thread doesn't completely fit here but the broad message does.

quote:

Expanding on that it would come down to first turn wins absolutely no questions asked with luck removed. Not that this isn't the case already fact is the game is so broken on so many levels.

And I honestly think the developers are clueless of how to fix it without causing more problems then they solve.

Luck is happening far to often lately even in situations it shouldn't .

Balance is appallingly bad always has been . In turn creating another problem the game is in such a bad state and has been for so long they cannot pull in enough players to offer a fair fight even reasonably often . Their are only really 2 modes in game 1v1 (and that's only for anyone above 34 or below 29 29-33 stat inflation and base damage etc, will screw you so bad you'll struggle to win a fight) and 2v2 again not a option after 29 you will often find that you are paired with some one 6 levels higher against 2 people 6 levels and higher and you will be brutally slaughtered.

How can we hope for this game to improve with such problems we are literally sending people to their slaughter as a reward for investing time in the game . And wondering why the numbers stay stagnant or decrease.

Be very careful guys not acting may be favourable to certain groups and acting may hurt certain groups in the short term.

But not acting will guarantee this games destruction .







Their are so many fundamental problems with this game its so broken and has been for so long . Some of these problems have been here since beta perhaps the developers just do not know how to fix them . And now its got to a point where good will has run out their player base is showing no mercy they are leaving. I hope they figure something out soon.

< Message edited by wireclub1990 -- 10/24/2013 21:11:51 >
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10/25/2013 0:43:11   
rejaylob
Member

Finally some balance is going to happen. I hope there will be some new cheevos too.
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