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2/28/2014 20:35:12   
kaiseryeux21
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I've been playing this game for nearly 4 years now and this is the only time where leveling up is more of a pain rather than accomplishment. Level 38 is definitely the hardest level as of this time when it comes to match making because you are almost always sure of facing a level 40 than facing a level 38 or level 39. I am now atlaest 4000 experience remaining before reaching level 39 and i don't know how long i can endure the pain of loosing battle not because im novice but because of mismatching. Seems like the devs doesnt still have a concrete solution to this problem. I know NPC's are there but after 10-15 battles, it becomes boring. I want to have a PVP battle but the circumstances doesn't allow me. Does anyone felt the same way?

No flaming or trolling pls. Just your experience and how you handle it.
DF Epic  Post #: 1
2/28/2014 20:52:11   
Mother1
Member

Play 2 vs 2 if you want to escape this because as long as level 40's level range is only 2 levels 38-39 will be pulled into these battles if a level 40 wants a 1 vs 1 duel and there aren't any other level 40's.

When this happened I was level 39 and even though I only needed 2000 EXP to get to the last level whenever I wanted to do the 1 vs 1 daily mission I felt this pain as well. The sad part of the matter is I said that cutting the level range for level 40's would do something like this but certain players felt this would be better and now look at 1 vs 1. you hardly see any level 38-39 playing because of this change.

< Message edited by Mother1 -- 2/28/2014 20:55:02 >
Epic  Post #: 2
2/28/2014 21:04:05   
kaiseryeux21
Member

And to think that not showing off losses will somehow fix the problem but clearly, no player want to engage in a battle when you are 95% sure of loosing it. In my opinion, Legendary ranks is a great feature that implemented poorly. Perhaps they should have cap the legendary ranks to level 5 only instead of level 20. that would somehow give level 38 or 39 a slim chance of winning.
DF Epic  Post #: 3
2/28/2014 21:20:00   
Mother1
Member

Which is why many players now go to 2 vs 2.

The main reason why this happened is because of the following.

1 Adding legendary ranks which increased the power of level 40's making them more powerful due to the way legendary ranks work
2 A small player pool due to problem within epic duel

3 cutting the level range of the players who have the smallest player pool because a some players thought it would be a fair fight for level 38-39 to fight level 40's thinking it would be only 2 levels when the reality is it isn't due to legendary ranks.

In all honestly the legendary update was for those hardcore players who level up fast and wanted something to do which is less than 10% of the community where as this says screw you to casual players within their level range (which make up way more than the hardcore players)

Personally while I know it won't happen I feel the best thing for them to do is to scrap the legendary update (minus the EXP curve) because let's face it has brought more trouble than it is worth to be honest. Heck when I was doing 2 vs 2 with 4 40's it wasn't a fair fight because me and my partner (both rank 1's) were facing 2 level 40's with rank 10 and rank 20 (which is equal to a 7.5 level gap)
Epic  Post #: 4
2/28/2014 21:21:52   
s0u1ja b0y
Member

There's always been a terrible lvl to be. Its always been about 2 or 3 below the lvl cap pretty much since alpha.
Epic  Post #: 5
2/28/2014 21:29:18   
Mother1
Member

@ Sou1ja b0y

while this is true, with all those it was nowhere near as concentrated as it is now.

Not only was there a bigger player base back then but there was also a bigger player range. So while there was this agony there was less of a chance of certain players getting it then it is now.

Epic  Post #: 6
2/28/2014 21:45:11   
s0u1ja b0y
Member

@mother1
I know that, but he's complaining about a problem that's always been there. It probably won't change either. I agree its much worse. Right now its like a Varium vs non Varium in delta.
Epic  Post #: 7
2/28/2014 22:22:08   
kaiseryeux21
Member

@soulja boy, 2 or 3 level difference means level 38 versus level 40 or level 41. that is why i did say that legenday rank should cap to level 5 only, which is in fact level 41. But level 38 vs legendary rank 16 or worst rank 20?? that is level 38 vs level 44 or level 45. Does it exist before??

< Message edited by kaiseryeux21 -- 2/28/2014 22:23:10 >
DF Epic  Post #: 8
2/28/2014 23:04:31   
CN2025
Member

im 39 and i fought a rank 36
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 9
2/28/2014 23:49:51   
s0u1ja b0y
Member

That's how it was in delta for non variums. A lvl difference of 2 without var was domination. It was kinda of like a lvl 20 vs lvl 25 even when same lvl.
Epic  Post #: 10
3/1/2014 13:01:25   
toopygoo
Member

honestly, the Legendary thing is a joke. i think it should ONLY apply to Juggernaut battles: by which point you do in fact have an added stats boost, but you are playing truly experienced players and it could finally be a little bit more balanced than it used to be. in 1v1, it tough enough facing someone 3 level higher than you, but 3 levels, and nearly ENDLESS EXTRA DAMAGE STATS?! thats just cruel. It why i am currently taking a little break. i need something less aggravating to keep me preoccupied.

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AQW Epic  Post #: 11
3/1/2014 18:59:43   
s0u1ja b0y
Member

@toopygoo
Jugg isn't suppose to be a walk in the park. Aren't legend ranks balanced when two 40s fight each other? Changing it doesn't just affect lvl 38 and 39.
Epic  Post #: 12
3/1/2014 19:02:38   
Mother1
Member

@ s0u1ja b0y

Nope they aren't thanks to these legendary ranks. A level 40 with a level 1 rank =/= a level 40 with a level 20+ rank.

This is happening in 2 vs 2 as well. Where we have 2 level 40's with level 1 ranks fighting level 40's with 10-20+ ranks on the same side.
Epic  Post #: 13
3/1/2014 19:12:26   
s0u1ja b0y
Member

@mother1
How many ranks are there? They should cap them at 10 for now and each one you need 100000 xp or something.
Epic  Post #: 14
3/1/2014 19:41:43   
toopygoo
Member

right soulja boi,

as you have read, it would be a challenge because the stats returns are still rather minimal with legendary, but it would give atleast a little bit of a break to the juggernaut at tese higher levels where the differences are much smaller than at lower levels. a level 30 facing two level 40s' the level deifference would be 40-30 thus 20 levels.


at level 40, you could be facing 30's (i know these number are extreme but for ximplicity's sake) thats still 60-40, DOUBLE what it was before. ALso you know the players would have more experience and more chances for upgrades themselves, thus the legendary ranks stats would still give a minial boost, but perhaps just enough to balance out the current crappy jugg system (which i think is only wrecked because of all of the energy drain abilities and, and the stats on weapons)
AQW Epic  Post #: 15
3/1/2014 19:45:50   
Mother1
Member

@ s0u1ja b0y

Not sure but I have seen some players with 30+ ranks in 1 vs 1 which is why I keep away from that like the plaque now.
Epic  Post #: 16
3/1/2014 19:51:13   
s0u1ja b0y
Member

@mother1
Those are some hardcore players. Legendary ranks really benefited them. With all NPC battles granting xp it became even easier.
Epic  Post #: 17
3/1/2014 20:58:54   
Noobatron x3000
Member

I don't understand why they have called it legendary ranks beating some1 with a massive def + offence bonus is hardly legendary, quite the opposite.
Post #: 18
3/1/2014 21:08:19   
Mother1
Member

@ Noobatron x3000

maybe it is legendary for the opponents since they are now getting legendary beat downs.

Personally other than the extremely decreased level curve the rest of the legendary updates needs to be scrapped and for damage control make an all time EXP leaderboard as well as daily EXP LB. Heck they could add a cheevo for it just like they have for 1 vs 1 2 vs 2 and juggernaut to sweeten the pot with the top 20 players from the intro of this idea getting the cheevo automatically.
Epic  Post #: 19
3/1/2014 21:15:20   
s0u1ja b0y
Member

@mother1
Lol
Wouldn't doing that make even more people quit?
Epic  Post #: 20
3/5/2014 4:31:34   
SS
Member
 
quote:

level 40's level range is only 2 levels

This is not true. On level 36 I encounter 2 lvl 40 opponents quite often. Sometimes with my partner being lvl 37 or 38. They said they made the level range smaller for lvl 40's opponents, but they lied, as usual. Or, let's suppose they just were mistaken. Again. The thousandth time.
Post #: 21
3/5/2014 7:22:59   
Mother1
Member

@SS

for 1 vs 1 the range is only 2 level down for level 40's. Also they didn't lie about cutting the level range for 2 vs 2 either. The level range for 2 vs 2 is 4 down the most instead of 6 like it used to be. You may not see it as a cut but it is one for them.
Epic  Post #: 22
3/5/2014 15:54:11   
SS
Member
 

 It might be a cut, but it doesn't step over the line to balanced matches, so if it's not completely useless (corroborated with legendary ranks it is, though), it is definitely not enough to solve the problem.
Post #: 23
3/5/2014 22:00:09   
Mother1
Member

Even if each side always got a legendary rank or in fact 4 level 40's played it still won't be balanced. Why because of the rank system. It is possible for 2 rank 1 40's to fight against 2 20+ ranked 40's which isn't balanced in the least either. Happened to me quite a few times.

But on a serious note I have had partners run from me the moment they saw 2 level 40's without even looking at their ranks first. Funny thing was these level 40's were only rank 1 40's like myself and my partner was get this a level 39. Seriously that really annoyed me.
Epic  Post #: 24
3/7/2014 16:40:09   
SS
Member
 

 How can you see their ranks? Does anyone below level 40 know? This is the problem: having an elite, that can maybe fight between themselves, but can be much over anyone below lvl 40 is just like the modern society in 3-rd world countries: no middle class, only maximum 5% rich and 95% poor.
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