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1/15/2021 13:23:11   
Cyrenius
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Alright, you’re probably getting tired of my suggestions and are glad I haven’t in months, but I think a few are in order.

Add 5 free stat points (for a maximum of 450 at level 90)

Fix “mischief” dragon skills so they are more viable

Vath’s Cloak, level 90
Merge items: Wings of the Unraveler III, Relic DeathKnight Cloak, Elpis
Attributes: Block +10, Dodge +10, Parry +10, Crit +10, Magic +10, Pierce +10, Melee +10, WIS +7, END +7, CHA +7, LUK +7, INT +10, DEX +10, STR +10, Bonus +10
Resistances: All +10, Health -10
Art: Vath’s cloak from AQ Worlds, color customizable


Legion Bracer II, level 50
Merge items: Legion Bracer, 1,000 defender’s medals
Attributes: Crit +7, WIS +2, END +2, CHA +2, LUK +2, INT +2, DEX +2, STR +2, Bonus +7
Resistances: All +2


Legion Bracer III, level 90
Merge items: Legion Bracer II, 2,000 defender’s medals
Attributes: Crit +10, WIS +3, END +3, CHA +3, LUK +3, INT +3, DEX +3, STR +3, Bonus +10
Resistances: All +3



Upgrades for level 80, 85, and 90 for Elemental Unity Defender (XVI, XVII, and XVIII)


< Message edited by Cyrenius -- 1/15/2021 17:59:10 >
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1/15/2021 13:38:33   
AstralCodex
Member

quote:

Alright, you’re probably getting tired of my suggestions and are glad I haven’t in months.




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Add 5 free stat points (for a maximum of 450 at level 90)

This is actually ok. (Though there's little point.)

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Fix “mischief” dragon skills so they are more viable

Mischief is quite viable, just not in longer hard duos. If you're doing AARGH, Mischief is definitely something you should be using.


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Vath’s Cloak, level 90
Merge items: Wings of the Unraveler III, Relic DeathKnight Cloak, Elpis
Attributes: Block +10, Dodge +10, Parry +10, Crit +10, Magic +10, Pierce +10, Melee +10, WIS +7, END +7, CHA +7, LUK +7, INT +10, DEX +10, STR +10, Bonus +10
Resistances: All +10, Health -10
Art: Vath’s cloak from AQ Worlds, color customizable

Why though? Unraveler and Elpis are all relative easy to get and decently balanced. Relic DK is getting some interactions with DK, so we'll have to wait and see there. Why make a cape that's better than all three for little reason?

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Legion Bracer II, level 50
Merge items: Legion Bracer, 1,000 defender’s medals
Attributes: Crit +7, WIS +2, END +2, CHA +2, LUK +2, INT +2, DEX +2, STR +2, Bonus +7
Resistances: All +2

Legion Bracer III, level 90
Merge items: Legion Bracer II, 2,000 defender’s medals
Attributes: Crit +10, WIS +3, END +3, CHA +3, LUK +3, INT +3, DEX +3, STR +3, Bonus +10
Resistances: All +3

Upgrades for level 80, 85, and 90 for Elemental Unity Defender (XVI, XVII, and XVIII)

The game really doesn't need more power creep in the form of DM items, which are already an incredibly obnoxious, time limited grind.
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1/15/2021 13:58:41   
Cyrenius
Member

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Why though? Unraveler and Elpis are all relative easy to get and decently balanced. Relic DK is getting some interactions with DK, so we'll have to wait and see there. Why make a cape that's better than all three for little reason?


I don't know, it would be nice to see a slight cloak / wing slot upgrade since we haven't seen one in a long time. Plus while I like the stats of Wings of the Unraveler III or Elpis, I don't really care for the looks especially on my character page, I'd much rather have a color-customizable cloak. Such a slight upgrade would be reasonable to collect all three of them and merge them into. Although I guess you're right that it's not needed.

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The game really doesn't need more power creep in the form of DM items, which are already an incredibly obnoxious, time limited grind.


Some of us have saved up thousands of DM's from wars with nothing to spend them on except for food for Inn at the Edge of Time challenges. I myself am almost capped. The legion bracer I guess is not needed, but the Elemental Unity Defender upgrade would be nice.
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1/15/2021 14:43:15   
AstralCodex
Member

I also have thousands of extra DMs as well.

But there's 30k DMs needed already for the maxed DM items, as well as 5k more DMs for level 80 DM items which are BiS for resistance stack. Then there's 6.5k DMs for the net -1 health unity. That's already a lot of stuff, easily 40k+ DMs.

From the perspective of new or returning players, DM gear are probably the largest hurdle after feeding dragon for endgame play. Adding another 15 hours (with catapult or supply run) or 25-30 hours (without) of grinding to get the BiS Bracer is just kind of silly, given that you already need to spend 20+ hours to get the belt and neck.
DF  Post #: 4
1/15/2021 15:43:43   
Dratomos
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Again those suggestions are odd. The five stats points to be added so that we have 450 at lvl 90 is the only good one. Rest are just why.

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Fix “mischief” dragon skills so they are more viable


What is broken about it?

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I don't know, it would be nice to see a slight cloak / wing slot upgrade since we haven't seen one in a long time. Plus while I like the stats of Wings of the Unraveler III or Elpis, I don't really care for the looks especially on my character page, I'd much rather have a color-customizable cloak. Such a slight upgrade would be reasonable to collect all three of them and merge them into. Although I guess you're right that it's not needed.


We've had the shown mechanic in the game for quite a while. It seems that the only reason for that would be that your character page would look nicer. And that combination also sounds so odd, why would gear from Soulweaver and DeathKnight mythos combine to a gear from AQW?

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Upgrades for level 80, 85, and 90 for Elemental Unity Defender (XVI, XVII, and XVIII)


Why? It is still BiS -slot by a long shot and does not need upgrading. Other DM gears did but EUD still has great stats. Lvl 90 version would be just nice thing to have, not one that requires attention.

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Some of us have saved up thousands of DM's from wars with nothing to spend them on except for food for Inn at the Edge of Time challenges. I myself am almost capped. The legion bracer I guess is not needed, but the Elemental Unity Defender upgrade would be nice.


So sell them? We don't need anymore DM gear and the bracer upgrade would be pretty pointless. Bracer's aren't meant to have high stats.
DF AQW  Post #: 5
1/15/2021 17:53:51   
Cyrenius
Member

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From the perspective of new or returning players, DM gear are probably the largest hurdle after feeding dragon for endgame play. Adding another 15 hours (with catapult or supply run) or 25-30 hours (without) of grinding to get the BiS Bracer is just kind of silly, given that you already need to spend 20+ hours to get the belt and neck.


You're right, especially for players that aren't doomknights or chaosweavers, it takes a lot longer to kill NPC's for other classes, as in at least twice as long. And doomknights require 2 years of being a DA and an extra $65, and chaosweaver requires completing the entire SW questline plus 1,800 DC's to unlock.

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What is broken about it?


One or two of the skills seemed broken on a really challenging fight I tried to use it on (not the shrink skill, I didn't try that one, it was one or two of the others), probably those dragons I struggled on so much before I finally defeated to get the BiS helm. Maybe they just were resistant to it / them.

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We've had the shown mechanic in the game for quite a while. It seems that the only reason for that would be that your character page would look nicer. And that combination also sounds so odd, why would gear from Soulweaver and DeathKnight mythos combine to a gear from AQW?


I don't think the show mechanic can be saved for character pages. Or am I wrong, can it be?

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Why? It is still BiS -slot by a long shot and does not need upgrading. Other DM gears did but EUD still has great stats. Lvl 90 version would be just nice thing to have, not one that requires attention.


You're right. It would be nice to have 3 upgrades (80, 85 and 90) so there is a level 90 fully upgraded version instead of just 77, but is not needed.

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So sell them? We don't need anymore DM gear and the bracer upgrade would be pretty pointless. Bracer's aren't meant to have high stats.


I apologize, but I'm not selling them, they only sell for 1 gold each, and I have over 10 million gold already, so I don't need gold. If and when I need more gold, I'll grind more Dr. Voltabolt.

Regardless, thank you both for the constructive criticism, I appreciate it.

Anyway, I struck through all suggestions except for the stat points and EUD upgrades.

< Message edited by Cyrenius -- 1/15/2021 18:00:09 >
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1/15/2021 23:14:26   
TFS
Helpful!


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One or two of the skills seemed broken on a really challenging fight I tried to use it on (not the shrink skill, I didn't try that one, it was one or two of the others), probably those dragons I struggled on so much before I finally defeated to get the BiS helm. Maybe they just were resistant to it / them.

There are only two mischief skills and the one you're referencing was removed from the game a full year before those two dragons came out
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2/9/2021 22:31:44   
asgaron
Member

I wish Double turns affected the cooldowns of dragon like regular skills

Maybe if not by default but then as a passive skill attained after getting a certain level of charisma stats

infact maybe we could get passives for all stats specific to the stat if you reach over a certain threshold of that stat


Like idk if you have over 100 END the more Resistence you have the stronger your attacks will be maybe 1 boost for 1 all resistence or something

if you get over 100 wisdom it begins to make your dmg range alot better so like your weapon if the damage is from 80-115 the more wisdom you have after say 100 or 150 WIS you begin to hit in the higher range of that dmg field
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