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2/21/2022 13:19:12   
CHAIML
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Lost Talon III - Parting Whispers
COMING THIS WEEK!
The journey back from the Temple of the Four Skies is exhausting, and the burden of its secrets is yet another mystery to weigh you down. After checking on your recovering allies at Terminus, rest finds you easily... But so does something else.

2022 Golden Giftbox Cross-Game Extravaganza
Unwrap yours today!
Over 50 new and returning items from many of your favorite AE games are now in to the Golden Giftboxes! Unwrap tons of amazing rewards like the Seraphim of Ver Armor, Shadowreaper of Doom, Creature 72 Pet and Guest Summons, plus much more!

12K Legion's Violence Spell
COMING THIS WEEK!
Violence does not rely on cheap tricks to defeat his opponents, becoming a maelstrom of swirling blades and death. Able to read your opponent’s weakness, this powerful spell will deal either Darkness or Ice damage! This package includes Spell and Skill versions that can be swapped through the Item Upgrader.

Returning Legion Z-Token Packages
Available For A Limited Time!
As we celebrate March and all things Dage and The Legion, 8 packages return for a limited time!

50K Legion Shogun Set:
While harvesting souls for Dage, choose to ride your steed into battle or dismount to fight alongside it! This sinister package features all these amazing items:
Armor
Shield
3-in-1 Weapon
6 player faces
Title
50K Legion Paragon Fiend Mount Set:
While harvesting souls for Dage, choose to ride your steed into battle or dismount to fight alongside it! This sinister package features all these amazing items:
Armor
Shield
3-in-1 Weapon
6 player faces
Title
20K Legion Paragon Fiend Mount Armor:
We are also offering 2 smaller package bonuses! This package includes:
Armor
Title
20K Legion Paragon Fiend Armaments:
This package includes:
Shield
3-in-1 Weapon
6 player faces
50K Proto Paragon MK2, MK3, and MK4 Sets:
Dage's Legion demands everything of its soldiers… and any hero skilled enough to equip a Protoparagon Mk set becomes one of its deadliest weapons. Each powerful set includes:
Armor
Shield
2 weapons
2 player faces
Title
6K Spirit of Luck:
This rich charm will boost your luck in combat! It normally gives +10% gold from battles when in your active inventory (top 8 misc item slots), and a +25% gold boost during March.

Tag you're it. ~Anim

< Message edited by AnimalKing -- 2/21/2022 13:40:24 >
AQ MQ  Post #: 1
2/21/2022 15:53:05   
PD
Member
 

 Better late than never. Though I still wish there weren't so many events that get in the way (Premium, holidays, etc) of timely and frankly necessary releases. And this year hasn't really let up with seasonal/unobtainable content either. But there's still 10 months to go so hopefully we'll see a different trend.

One of the big questions I have is what the element is going to be for this. In my opinion it should be water. Yes I know we just had the Fae Knight Set but I don't think that should could towards elemental coverage. We could sorely use some water equips that isn't unobtainable and obtainable for gold without condition.

< Message edited by PD -- 2/21/2022 16:02:12 >
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2/21/2022 17:17:02   
  Lorekeeper
And Pun-isher

 

 Any notion of 'unobtainable' seasonal content has been dropped, so I would submit for consideration that the year has done the opposite of not letting up with such and the trend has been bucked already. Unfortunately, applying this retroactively to Frostval would indeed be a more time consuming process due to the point at which paintings were introduced how content was set up in the past. I've made my extreme aversion to quest rarity no secret to the team nor the players, but entirely fixing decades of the cumulative results of a team shrinking in the middle of content organization is no overnight process.

Further, in much the same way as lighter releases clear up the time to work on more involved ones, premium content serves to finance them. As great as it would be to have quests every week, any reasonable categorization of what releases are necessary can't very well exclude those that keep the game in a position to sustain itself and its staff. Rest assured, we have one of the most exceptional years in the game's history in store when it comes to permanent content and improvements.
Post #: 3
2/21/2022 18:34:49   
PD
Member
 

 When I said unobtainable, I meant if I cannot get it right now without condition then it's still unobtainable. By definition any seasonal and/or rotational content that is only available at that time period and then has to wait for the next time (or buy a portal) it's still unobtainable. When this month (or when it's no longer accessible through the event page) ends Snuggleheart will not be accessible anymore except through the various portals. Otherwise I have to wait and any suggestion that involves items from that event is considered unobtainable until time. Something not in the game for 10-11/12 months of the year shouldn't actually be considered obtainable or even part of the normal game experience. The same is going to be true of Blarney, Grenwog, April Fools, and the other holidays that have yet to happen this year and are coming very soon. Unless these holidays aren't going to happen and/or they're made more accessible.

To be clear, I'm not asking for new quests and/or content every time. The thing I care most about at this point is for the AQ team to keep its promises in respects to updates and/or QoL that they themselves have made to us in the past.

On the premium releases, I understand a lot of the package items and premium-based updates are meant to keep the lights on. Yet these releases also depend on these items being interesting enough for people to actually buy them (although if there's someone out there that is truly doing something altruistic, I'd like to talk to you!). And the only reason someone would actually be wanting to buy anything is:

1. If it's stronger than the items that already exist. And this is tricky to deal with because it involves potentially playing with power creep.
2. If it offers some sort of utility that doesn't exist or hasn't been seen in awhile because the previous iteration of said utility is no longer available. Which said utility also still has the risk of power creep if it's done badly.
3. If it's going to become unobtainable at some point in the future.

As much as the argument has always been about "the tokens, not the items themselves" (which I do accept personally), personal valuation is subjective and a good amount of people (but not all) do end up looking at the items themselves in making a choice to make a transaction or not. The recent Virophage package items were an example of this. From what I saw anyways, few people actually ended up getting the items. And with the fact that we can have the info-subs before buying it, it becomes an even more subjective thing whether to get something or not. Now I understand not every item can nor should be a banger nor can AQ compel people to buy things. Yet it really makes me wonder if this is really the best way to go about securing AQ's future if it's as subjective and fickle as that.

On the release schedule, let's take a good look at what we've had this year: (3 unobtainable releases, +4 premiums)

01/03/2022 - The Guardian Giftboxes Open [Unobtainable]
01/10/2022 - January 2022 Golden Giftboxes [Premiums]
01/17/2022 - Update Week [Permanant]
01/24/2022 - Z-Token Package Bonus Trio [Premiums]
01/31/2022 - SnuggleFest 2022 [Seasonal]

02/07/2022 - 2022 Golden Giftbox Cross-Game Extravaganza [Seasonal + Premium]
02/14/2022 - House Guard and Estate Updates [Permanent + Premium] (Technically, this is a premium feature but I'll give you this one)
02/21/2022 - Lost Talon III and Legion Z-Token Packages [Permanent] (I'm going to not count this one because Lost Talon III is the primary part of this release even though Legion doesn't stay around. This should have also been part of 2021 but was delayed)

How does this compare to last year up to this point? We've not hit a deep part of the year yet but so far: (5 unobtainable releases, +2 premiums)

January:
Jan 4: Frostvale 2020 Gift Delivery War [Unobtainable]
Jan 11: Booster Guests GGB [Premium]
Jan 18: Estates Update [Premium]
Jan 25: Frostval Gifting Contest Finale [Unobtainable]

Februrary:
Feb 1: Snugglefest (No Seasonal Quest) [Seasonal]
Feb 8: Giftbox Crossover Extraveganza [Premium + Unobtainable]
Feb 15: Snugglefest Last Resort [Seasonal]
Feb 22: Devourer Saga Update (Eigerbuld) + Legion Shogun [Permanent] (Legion Shogun wasn't the primary part of this update so I'm not going to score it)

I'm only going to count the seasonal content on this one since we're going to accept for the sake of the argument that premium content is (although I disagree) part of the normal playing experience. Even with that there's not really been that much of a difference, and if you count premium + unobtainables, they both come out to roughly 7 though I'm willing to revise or retract this post or paqrts of it this if you think there's been made an unfair measurement or unreasonable assumptions.

< Message edited by PD -- 2/21/2022 18:48:08 >
Post #: 4
2/21/2022 18:48:31   
  Lorekeeper
And Pun-isher

 

 With it being acknowledged that the game does in fact need a measure of premium content to remain able to create free content, I'll respectfully withdraw with the observation that we are in fact in the process of delivering on the matters of quality of life fixes and other updates. Avenues of monetization, whichever alternatives there are that maintain adequate transparency for the items being released, are outside of my purview. Feedback is certainly welcome, if there is any interest in constructive criticism.
Post #: 5
2/22/2022 4:54:15   
Biokirkby
Member

I think your observations have been noted, PD. Honestly, it's tiring to see this same complaint every single release, your criticism hasn't been forgotten.
DF AQW  Post #: 6
2/23/2022 1:02:46   
PD
Member
 

 So apparently, Purple Rain got updated

EDIT: A Full summary of the updates by IMR

So it keeps the main function of rewinding your meter values, but it's not *as* free as it used to be, and it requires in order to not pay the full cost again to actually play the battle out which also means you can't abuse buffs for free. Although I'm not a big fan of rewind mechanics (especially the way it is on PR) in general this is a huge step in the right direction. Almost every boss battle in AQ was becoming trivialized by PR and this update gives us back some much needed sanity. And we all hope that this is the first of many necessary adjustment patches.

I'm wondering if bosses are also going to start getting Form Shift alongside the existing Boss Boost and Freedom. If so it's almost as if the game is telling us we ought to just play the "right" way (playing a very long battle and tanking up your defenses and whittling your enemy down slowly). If Zorbak's necromancy Ally Assist becomes a Form Shift in that same vein I think a lot of existing strategies are going to hit a wall and people are going to need to make adjustments.



On the other changes it's nice that the Hypercrit celerity thing got updated as well. No more free Hypercrit turns. More sanity restoration.



< Message edited by PD -- 2/23/2022 2:55:05 >
Post #: 7
2/23/2022 1:40:40   
RobynJoanne
Member
 

 @PD
Zorbak Ally Assist has always been a Form Shift effect.
quote:

Tags the monster as Undead*, if it isn't already. The monster doesn't get a save against this effect, but can be immune**.


Form Shift Immunity also blocks Prime Chaos Orb, which is similarly problematic for boss fights. Form Shift Immunity should become a popular status effect for challenge bosses just as Freedom has proliferated so much in recent years.
Post #: 8
2/23/2022 2:13:39   
PD
Member
 

 Thanks for the info. I actually didn't remember Prime Chaos orb was also a Form Shift though this is because I never use it. Either way the less cheesy strategies there are the better the outlook is for game balance. Having such things available warps perception and doesn't really give a good picture of how the game's balance is so this will get us closer to the truth of things.
Post #: 9
2/23/2022 17:28:54   
.*. .*. .*.
Pfft hahaha!


 I am really looking forward to this quest, since the previous items was really nice, hopefully the trend continues and the staff will surprise and spoil us yet again!
Post #: 10
2/24/2022 13:55:47   
  The Hollow
AQ Lead


 We have a lot going on this week so it is looking like a Friday release! With the Legion Violence package releasing with 6 spell and skill variants, Kam is going back and adding spell/skill variants for all of these Z-Token packages also:

  • Cysero's Booth
  • Arctic Tornado
  • Creation Burst
  • Volcanic Lightning

    Players buying one the above packages for the first time will receive 6 spell and skill variants. If you have already bought one of these packages, Thank you!, and you can pick up your extra versions from Ballyhoo's Shops once they are ready. Speaking of... Ballyhoo's shops will also be updated this week (possibly Saturday) to include the following missing prizes:

  • Chaosborn Raider Set
  • Chaosborn Agent Set
  • Tsunamistrike Guardian Dragon Blade
  • Shadowrend Armaments
  • Ice Guardian Dragon Forms
  • Kibbles/Tibbles Frostval 2021 contest prizes: Shadow Phoenix and Boreal Cavalier
  • 2021 and 2022 Calendar items
  • Moglicorn Booster Pet
  • Legion's Violence

    < Message edited by The Hollow -- 2/25/2022 17:50:01 >
    • AQ  Post #: 11
    2/24/2022 15:46:19   
    Sapphire
    Member

    		@Hollow,

    Can an overcharged version of volcanic lightning be made to match the other seeking burst spells, considering they're packages are the same cost, and might be warranted.... while Kam's there. So can this be done pwetty pwease?

    Also, any chance at all the buffalot/una poca/arcane amp could have MP versions made, too? All swappable via item upgrader?

    I believe PR's change may allow for this type of leniency. -Kisses your feet-

    < Message edited by SapphireCatalyst2021 -- 2/24/2022 17:47:37 >
    Post #: 12
    2/24/2022 16:49:03   
    Bu Kek Siansu
    Member
     
    Hollow, Moglicorn (booster pet) is missing from the Ballyhoo's shops.

    Would it be possible to update "Chilly/Ramssy" (booster pets) to scale (Level 0) like others?

    Post #: 13
    2/24/2022 17:09:34   
    bvd
    Member

    		@Hollow

    Is there any way in the near future to increase armor inventory slots? I am a very big armor collector. Thank You.
    AQ  Post #: 14
    2/25/2022 5:40:48   
    icetears
    Member

    		Im happy that legion shogun as returned. However without the misc burn effect from the original frostval set makes the set a not as worthwhile.
    Post #: 15
    2/25/2022 15:08:03   
    Sphinx Jevoha
    Member


    Hello :)

    Is the Talon Set being released today?
    Post #: 16
    2/25/2022 15:12:25   
    PD
    Member
     

    		 @bvd: The maximum number of slots buyable has been increased to 150 with the Shop UI Update. So with the Skycastle you can now have up to 170 slots per category. You'll need to click on the Armor Category button in the shop UI and then you'll see the option to buy more slots in the first slot that says "Add Extra Slot". Unless you're asking for more than 150.

    EDIT: Just look at your inventory and wow you've already got 124 armors! That is impressive.

    < Message edited by PD -- 2/25/2022 15:15:31 >
    Post #: 17
    2/25/2022 18:06:25   
      The Hollow
    AQ Lead


    		 Part III of the Lost Talon Mastercraft Set is live! Check my previous post for updated info regarding packages and Ballyhoo updates! Legion's Violence comes in six variants: Normal Skill/Spell, Efficient Skill/Spellpell, HP overcharged Skill/Spell. The update to Ballyhoo is still coming but it is looking like Saturday for the missing shops.

    The following packages will also receive 6 variants (later this evening or Saturday):
  • Cysero's Booth
  • Arctic Tornado
  • Creation Burst
  • Volcanic Lightning

    quote:

    Also, any chance at all the buffalot/una poca/arcane amp could have MP versions made, too?

    We can possibly add some more variants for those packages at a later date.

    quote:

    Hollow, Moglicorn (booster pet) is missing from the Ballyhoo's shops.

    Would it be possible to update "Chilly/Ramssy" (booster pets) to scale (Level 0) like others?

    Moglicorn Pet has been added to the list, thank you! Yes, there are many older packages we need to revisit and bring them up to current standards.

    quote:

    Is there any way in the near future to increase armor inventory slots? I am a very big armor collector. Thank You.

    Maybe down the road if I get enough requests. It's possible now to have over 1000 slots per category between available characters and the shared vault.
    • AQ  Post #: 18
    2/25/2022 19:08:46   
    Zennistrad
    Member

    		Well, this quest certainly succeeded in being ominous, which was clearly the intention. The implication here being that

    spoiler:

    The Chosen may be forced to take up the mantle of War some time in the future — possibly permanently.

    What's interesting here is that, while it's vaguely worded like any good prophecy, the mention of the "regents" seems to hint that this new threat may be something that both The'Galin and Lorithia will have trouble dealing with on their own. For the two top gods of the AQ universe to be so troubled by something is... concerning, to say the least.


    Equipment here is pretty nice, being mostly opposite-element variants of the Talon set's weapon and shield. I'm most interested in the spell though, which looks like it could be pretty bonkers.
    AQ  Post #: 19
    2/25/2022 19:35:02   
    bvd
    Member

    		@The Hollow

    Is there any way to compress the 6 variants into less slots? I was surprised it took 6 of my spell slots.

    Thanks for your hard work!


    Update: Spell is bugged, character is frozen midgame and the spell doesn't do any damage/animation except lift my sword up.

    < Message edited by bvd -- 2/25/2022 20:08:56 >
    AQ  Post #: 20
    2/25/2022 20:09:03   
    PD
    Member
     

    		 At long last, the conclusion of the MC Saga.

    spoiler:


    I'm getting similar vibes to that as Zennistrad said. And I even remember that the omen of War was also present with the 3rd part of the DL Mastercraft Saga. Maybe this is a prelude to what the Summer Event is going to be this year?

    Regarding the equipment, these are Earth variants of the previously released Lost Talon items. Although I was dearly hoping it would have been Water. The shield protects against Earth as well, while its toggle defends against Dark and Fire. Between Monster Talon Guard and Lost Talon Tower you can defend against 6 elements:

    Talon Tower: Wind, Ice, Light
    Moster Talon: Earth, Fire, Dark

    There's no overlap of elements so it's 6 unique elements in 2 slots; an unprecedented amount of value for shield slots. If you do use these you'll only need to cover Energy and Water. If you use something like Sinmaw's Guard then you'll be able to cover 8 elements in 3 slots, leaving you with 5 slots for anything else you want to do.
    Post #: 21
    2/25/2022 21:31:03   
      Kamui
     Hashire sori yo Kaze no you ni!
    quote:

    Update: Spell is bugged, character is frozen midgame and the spell doesn't do any damage/animation except lift my sword up.


    Fixed this, turns out I forgot to upload the spell and the other updated spells to the live servers. The updated variants of the other spells are in the shops for them, but I've not yet updated the existing entries. I'll be getting to that and finishing up updating Ballyhoo later tonight/tomorrow morning. Thanks so much for the patience, and hope you're enjoying the spell options!
    AQ DF MQ  Post #: 22
    2/25/2022 23:16:36   
    Zennistrad
    Member

    quote:

    Now you can fit all 8 elements into 3 shields
    Mountain Talon
    Lost Talon
    Sinmaw


    Now I'm interested in seeing what can be done with this. Counting the no-drop shield, this leaves four total shield slots freed for other shields to use.

    I have no idea what exactly having four extra shield slots would be useful for though, since most of the utility shields in the game already cover one element at -26%.

    Mountain Talon could certainly be extremely strong when fighting Demons and their dual Fire/Dark shenanigans, though.

    < Message edited by Zennistrad -- 2/25/2022 23:20:57 >
    AQ  Post #: 23
    2/26/2022 3:55:58   
    Nameless King
    Member

    		Perhaps at the end of our saga,we would be became a god~A nice finishing touch to our long life of adventure.But that won't be the end of Adventure Quest right?No.We would just create some sort of an avatar of ourselves which is a mortal and he/she would be the new Chosen one.Helping those in need and involving ourselves with whatsoever lore shenanigans that might occur.These coffee got me thinking wild bruh.....perhaps I should add some sugar next time
    Post #: 24
    2/26/2022 3:59:40   
    sunblaze
    Member

    spoiler:


    Ha! I managed to put both Omen to asleep.
    Now who is the true master of my dreams?


    < Message edited by sunblaze -- 2/26/2022 4:06:14 >
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