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6/15/2025 3:27:47   
Laeon val Observis
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Saturday, June 14, 2025
The Bicentennial DragonLord Tournament of Glory!
Hey there, heroes!

This week, it's time for a DragonFable anniversary war! The Bicentennial DragonLord Tournament of Glory is on, and you're invited!


Flyers have been scattered all over Falconreach, inviting YOU (yes you!) to the Bicentennial DragonLord Tournament of Glory! (They even have your name on it, along with your dragon's!)

With promises of a great reward, that's enough to tempt any hero to participate, right? Just don't ask too many questions...

It's time for war!


Also this week, we have a new cosmetic weapon available!


The Draconic Wavecrest has been added to the Draconic Items seasonal shop! It will change its appearance to match certain elements, and you can click on it to change how you hold it!

You can pick it up this awesome weapon for 450 Dragon Coins.


Also, a couple of adjustments:
  • The UltraVultragon fight now gives significantly more exp.
  • Valencia's dialogue in the Ultra Vultragon fight has had some timing adjusted.
  • anything else i may have forgotten.

And that's all for this week!



Paw printed, and tagged! ~Gingkage


< Message edited by Gingkage -- 6/18/2025 20:48:06 >
DF AQW  Post #: 1
6/15/2025 16:29:54   
Loreguardian
Member

Where is this release set in the timeline? During Book 3 or between Book 3 & Book 4

Can someone let me know this with the other releases from 2024 and 2025 please so I can play in order story wise

Thanks so much for your help
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6/15/2025 19:18:03   
Laeon val Observis
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spoiler:

Judging by certain dialogues in this war's introductory cutscene and comparing it to a certain post-credits segment further along the main storyline, it can be presumed to be somewhere at Book 3. As for potential specific chronology, cannot be determined at this time beyond that it is probably before the end.

Unless you are too hardcore a sequentialist or not really ambitious in attaining Defender's Medals, you might as well contribute to the war effort when it is open to all.

spoiler:

While we already have the wave composition data available, what is not stated there is how our fellow "nameless" competitors encourage outright offensive-oriented builds (e.g. 200 STR/INT, 45 to wherever, likely to be CHA if you have a sufficiently trained Dragon) as their HP bars are practically on the same level as those on the mobs at Zeclem's Keep and Exaltia Archives. And you are encouraged to stun the DragonLord as any dragon that has access to a multihit breath attack can eat a chunk of HP from you (using a full offensive build in conjunction with Uragiri, those dragons can make you go from 100% to 60% HP in one turn).

EDIT: The alternative route is to Turn 1 burst the dragon. ShadowHunters with 200 MAG dragon and a stat of 200 INT/DEX 45 CHA can attain the necessary explosive power using Focus>sHorde>Nova to KO the dragon and leave the DL open to Attack on Turn 2.

After clearing 250 waves, this war feels slow. Short of whipping out (Reforged) Archivist, a class not really known for short turns, there's no consistent way to FTK the duos.

< Message edited by Laeon val Observis -- 6/16/2025 1:19:54 >
DF AQW  Post #: 3
6/16/2025 9:10:13   
Vaalirus
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quote:

Short of whipping out (Reforged) Archivist, a class not really known for short turns, there's no consistent way to FTK the duos.


As it appears to me now, Chaosweaver seems to be handling the duos best with stats skewing towards a 200 Str/Dex alignment with gear favorable towards the dragonknight equipment to consistently take down the dragons in one shot . Which isn't surprising of course given the egambit boost but funnily enough even it won't consistently wipe the duos on your single turn unless you get lucky with a crit or lucky non-critical damage output on the dragonlord with your dragon having to finish them off instead with a nova. Part me wants to see how 200 luck does but right now this rate feels decent enough for clears.

Though I do find myself curious what we're going to see with these upcoming boss dragonlord fights in terms of mechanics I'm admittedly intrigued if they'll be more or less the same or if they'll each receive mechanics that feel unique to the way each look, can't wait to find out.


Edit: Alright just fought the countess and it's more than clear that these dragonlord fights are going to be pretty different from each other, with each potentially specializing in the use of one of the elemental skills? So, I suppose the next one will be light oriented? Additionally, I'm glad we do seem to get to speak with the dragonlord we've defeated, it's nice hearing about the world they come from.

< Message edited by Vaalirus -- 6/16/2025 10:41:24 >
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6/16/2025 10:57:59   
arcanum37
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I've been using the following gear with Chaosweaver (200 STR/DEX, the remaining points don't matter so I put them in LUK):

Uragiri III (Light of Ebil Dread slotted)
Cor-Demi Trio III
Akaz's Ampoule Ring IX
Warhelm of the Legion III
Parallel Chaos Amulet
Exalted Blaster II (Doom)
Warrior's Challenger Belt V
Legion Bracer

This makes Dominance under Gambit's +Boost effect deal a minimum of 1184 damage, which is enough to beat the highest HP mob from the regular waves (I don't know the HP values of the new rare wave yet)

Though I did have to switch my stats and gear for the 1st lock, can't just casually go unga bunga against that lol
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6/16/2025 11:38:21   
Vaalirus
Member

^

Ah now I see, this gear set seems to have done the trick for these waves, thanks for the tip.
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6/16/2025 21:38:22   
Laeon val Observis
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 The current rare wave duo has ~1.6K HP for the dragon, ~1.2K HP for the DL, with some degree of access to their "miniboss" powers. So if you confront them, no one will chastise you for going 3 turns with CW on them.
DF AQW  Post #: 7
6/17/2025 3:06:11   
arcanum37
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With the above setup, it's at most 2 turns. eGambit + Rip -> Dominance
AQ DF  Post #: 8
6/17/2025 3:31:36   
Vanic
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Hey, I'm struggling with the countess and her dragon. If you don't mind, can you tell me how to beat her? I'm level 60 and have the Archivist. I've tried many times with Aegis and Uuanta as guests and my pet dragon but the closest i've ever gotten was beating the countess and getting her dragon down to 3k HP.
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6/17/2025 19:34:11   
Laeon val Observis
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 Doesn't really tell much (e.g. your stats and gear) but part of the reason would be guest presence biting back. Slogged through the miniboss with Paladin.
DF AQW  Post #: 10
6/18/2025 0:46:54   
Vanic
Member

I sought help elsewhere and yeah, i learned that guests amplify enemy damage, so i stopped using them. Even then, im still no where close to beating them.
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6/18/2025 0:58:10   
Laeon val Observis
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 Which is why, what is your build? You didn't really give much a hint beyond a class that is second only to CCL in one trick pony-ness. And as demonstrated in the answers to your reddit post, you may want to go beyond it if Archi is not giving you any headway.

< Message edited by Laeon val Observis -- 6/18/2025 1:01:49 >
DF AQW  Post #: 12
6/18/2025 13:38:08   
Roxas45
Member

I might not be able to help - but have you tried another class?
Archivist is a good one, but it has a niche use IMO.

Personally I was using the Deathknight class, with full DK gear.
Its good for rotating a defensive move set, then an offensive move set.
I also aimed for the Dragonlord first.

Other options I can think of...
Soulweaver? But you'd need something supporting I guess, like your baby dragon - But as a PET, not as a guest, and make sure you select the option to allow you to select pet actions.
Technomancer - Good for Defensive/Turtling, based on what I remember (Its been a while, forgive me for misremembering).
Ninja - Dodge based, and Dot (But I'm not sure if this can work - I'll have to test things)
Paladin - Healing and Blinding.
Ranger - Good for Stacking Dot -and I THINK it can be used for a dodge/turtle build?
Pirate - Set up + nuke. I love this class honestly. But to each their own.

Hell, if you have the dragon amulet (which I assume you are), then you can rotate defence with Stun and Power boosts using the Riftwalker.
I think you can use the other Atealan classes, but I'm not that much in the know on how they work.



also after having my butt kicked multiple times over the last few months in the Inn of time, I am SO glad I was able to do this fight.
I was honestly starting to lose my confidence for a while there. XD


Edit: Let me post my build for Deathknight.

Unhallowed Deathknight Belt Level 80.
Unhallowed Deathknight Cloak Level 80.
Zeclem's Relic Band Level 90.
Unhallowed Deathknight Helm level 80.
Unhallowed Deathknight Amulet level 80.
Exalted Blaster 1 (Doom) - Level 60
Zeclem's Relic Belt Level 90.
Falqynn's Snackpack (Level 30).

I'm open to improvements to the gear - and as you can see, I'm only PARTLY getting my gear to Zeclem's stuff but that dungeon is.... painstaking. And slow.

Also. My gear for Chaosweaver/Doomknight:

Necrotic Sword of Doom / Pandora (For whatever your level is)
Necro Paragon Cape 4 (Level 85)
Zeclem's Relic Band (Level 90)
Necro Paragon Helm 4 (Level 85)
Unhallowed Deathknight Amulet 4 (level 80)
Exalted Blaster 1 (Doom)
Belt of Golden Sand 8 (level 80)
Falwynn's Snackpack (level 30)

Again, open to improvement to the gear, but I'm basically going for is the attack damage and main stats.
I'm also level 90, and my stats are
Int 200
Luk 45
End 100
Wis 100

Not the optimum setup, but its useful for long fights, quests and so on.
Not to mention, the high health gives you more of a buffer in the HP loss from the offensive rotation.

< Message edited by Roxas45 -- 6/18/2025 13:48:00 >
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 13
6/18/2025 14:08:46   
TFS
Helpful!


 Why is Pasiphae (which is an... interesting reference for a character name) a ??? and not a Dragon? It's not like this is an Inn fight where game balance arguably excuses the flavor fail, there's nothing stopping you from using Adventure Mode or DoomKnight V1 or what have you. Even if the intent is to stop people from using DragonSlayer for its one and only intended purpose... having to deal with enraged Safira will already do that? Strange choice.

Also, this might be a weird thing to bring up, but I'd like to bring attention to the attach point of the new Draconic Wavecrest weapon. I love this weapon's art, but the way the character holds it is choked up way too much, and it looks a little strange. It's a spear that's held like a longsword; there's no point in it being a spear if there's just going to be five feet of handle behind your grip - especially with DragonLord, which fights with a shield and should therefore be choking way down on a long weapon instead. The artist was clearly aware of this and drew the weapon's grip further down the shaft, but the character doesn't actually hold it at the grip. Another strange choice.
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6/18/2025 14:33:08   
Roxas45
Member

I also found that interesting that Pasiphae is a ??? and not a dragon.
But that gives me two theories.
1) That its a transformed human/being - Originally Pasiphae was a daughter of a Titan and an Ocean Nymph, so her being "human" is stretching it a wee bit.
Not to mention, she was punished into creating the Minotaur - and a lot of myths have a tendency to turn people into animals for whatever reason (Lycaon, Callisto, etc)
Just wishful thinking.

2) Not all the dragons are dragons. Look in the hallway when you explore the arena and the people in the same room as her.
When talking, The Countess is the only one speaking and when the "dragon" talks, its only in ??? and !!!. While all other dragons with their Dragonlords speak as well.
Also... she has 3 heads, so like... maybe there's an internal struggle over who gets to use the center of the brain that works with speech that day?
Not to mention, the guy next to the Countess has something unusual, and not something I'd call a dragon either.

My 2 cents anyway.

< Message edited by Roxas45 -- 6/18/2025 14:37:30 >
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6/18/2025 14:35:01   
Bluu
Member

For anyone without Chaosweaver who wants an alternate option for footwaves, 200 STR/INT 45 DEX Wrath Dragonlord with 200 Magic Guest Dragon kills the duo war mobs reliably enough (Fire Dragon Spirit + Breath into the Dragonlord, Nova into the Dragon) with Dragon Blade slotted. If you still struggle to kill the Dragonlord due to a lack of endgame offense gear, the Kara guest does a good enough job of cleaning up the Dragonlord.

quote:

Why is Pasiphae (which is an... interesting reference for a character name) a ??? and not a Dragon? It's not like this is an Inn fight where game balance arguably excuses the flavor fail, there's nothing stopping you from using Adventure Mode or DoomKnight V1 or what have you. Even if the intent is to stop people from using DragonSlayer for its one and only intended purpose... having to deal with enraged Safira will already do that? Strange choice.
I agree. In my opinion, it's a little silly that a major plot point in Book 1 was Galanoth's use of Dragonbane in his armor for the unlikely event that he would be chewed up by a dragon which ended up saving his life and the world - and yet, tagging Pasiphae as a ??? Monster and not as a Dragon prevents you from using this established lore connection to slay a real dragon in a dragon tournament. This is rather unnecessary in my opinion, since it's a story fight and you are already permitted to use things like Necrotic Sword of Doom, Hamsters, or most relevantly, Fallen Ice Dragon (+30% Boost to Human enemies) and Guests if you wish. Furthermore, the fight was given an Easy option within a day of its release, so it's clear that this is supposed to be accessible and not challenging. The Inn is also a different situation entirely as all of the fights there are simulacra and you can argue that the challenge runners didn't make them responsive to Dragonbane. As such, I don't see a real justification for the flavor fail in not making Pasiphae a Dragon.

Edit: Side note, it's pretty cool that you get new dialogue from The Countess when you beat her and her dragon! Nice touch!

< Message edited by Bluu -- 6/18/2025 20:35:19 >
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