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11/12/2011 5:43:34   
_LordReaper
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i think static charge is overpowering ch's since when a ch will use static charge (MAX STATIC CHARGE) he'll get 15-20 energy back. whats up with that? ive seen a ch doing 6 damage and getting 17 energy, the description of static charge is "Adds a percentage of the damage you inflict to your energy", what exactly is damage there? their normal damage or damage that isn't calculated in battle yet? this is like the frenzy for ch's, devs nerfed tlm's frenzy, so should they nerf this too?
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11/12/2011 5:48:29   
dracule1984
Member
 

 ^ Agreed
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11/12/2011 7:15:32   
Drianx
Member

This makes no sense.
AQW Epic  Post #: 3
11/12/2011 7:30:49   
Remorse
Member

Actully I think youl find static charge is kinda underpowered.

Since thier whole class basically revolves around that skill as their "passive" which it is not then it being blocked being a complete diasaster for them.

Also Frenzy is actully being given the same bonus as Cyber hunters static charge.

For example.

If you a str TLM you frenzy gives yo 15-20 hp after the change it will give them around 10-15 hp.
BUT:
A TLM with low strength (eg sup TLM) uses frenzy and gain 5-10 hp, after the change it will give them 10-15 so ruffly the same standard as STR TLMs.

So basically the change is frenzy is only negitviely effecting str TLMs and this is a good thing since the are massively OPED. Not because the can get a high win% but because they can be used effectively without barely any strategy aka LAZY WINS.

< Message edited by Remorse -- 11/12/2011 7:31:07 >
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11/12/2011 8:17:28   
Ranloth
Banned


 To be honest, CH would be perfect with something like Static Charge and Reroute together but a bit different - less EP back from damage received + % of damage back as MP. So like weak Reroute and Bloodlust but EP instead of HP and also weaker (so it won't be too strong and needed to be changed..).
Or possible solution for both TLMs and CHs would be simply swapping 2 skills, Reroute and Static Charge. Don't know if it'd be good way to balance things, mainly for TLMs but I wouldn't mind as long as it'd be perfectly balanced. :P

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11/12/2011 8:21:39   
I am Primal
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 are you high? static gets blocked 50% of the time. ch is weakest class and your saying it's overpowered. if your a tactical merc -_-
Post #: 6
11/12/2011 8:38:56   
dont give up
Member

i agree @rem lol
Post #: 7
11/12/2011 8:49:12   
Stabilis
Member

Buddy, I get 24 energy back on my static charge and you think that is OP (LOL!). Do you understand what I have to go through? I have to put 80 points in total on strength, some on technology, and the rest on dexterity. I get 48 energy every 4 turns... I MUST choose a lousy strike skill to get it... I MUST find ways to avoid being blocked... I MUST have enough strength to get the correct amount of points.

Fyi static charge gives energy based on strength and weapon damage, not damage absorbed by whoever we hit.

My support is carpy, its about 25(?), I usually rage 1.5 times later than most people, I usually get hit by critical hit. But the difference between me and you is that I am not complaining with Q_Q as my face.
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11/12/2011 9:08:49   
9001WaysToLaugh
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@greenrain13: That post just earned you 1 fame.
Epic  Post #: 9
11/12/2011 9:10:05   
Epic Pwnser
Member

^2 fame actually :D

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11/12/2011 9:16:55   
9001WaysToLaugh
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^I'll laugh so hard if that one post gets him the rock star achievement...
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11/12/2011 9:19:40   
drinde
Member

I'll help. :P

How is Static Charge OPed when 1 good hit of AtomSmash/EMP can take it away? Besides, most battles aren't long enough for them to loop it excessively.
DF MQ Epic  Post #: 12
11/12/2011 9:39:09   
I am Primal
Member
 

 they need to buff ch big time
Post #: 13
11/12/2011 11:25:20   
nico0las
Member

Static charge needs to be unblockable.
I cannot tell you how many times I've rage quit because it blocked.
It works the same way as frenzy.


It's fine as it is. You would utterly destroy CH if you killed static charge. You want to nerf the weakest class beyond repair? And you guys are searching for BALANCE? Sad.
It seems appropriate, based on how weak this class is. I love it, it has it's ups and downs, but it's awesome.

@Green well said. I'm now your biggest fan.

< Message edited by nico0las -- 11/12/2011 11:26:49 >
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11/12/2011 12:24:49   
Midnightsoul
Member

statoc charge also ignores 100% defense. It was on one of the design notes that Cindy posted but I don't know why it is not on thr description.
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11/12/2011 12:32:07   
Stabilis
Member

^ I believe it ignores 100% of any resistance that would subtract energy accumulation. Damage is normal.
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11/12/2011 13:07:55   
Whirlwindstorm2
Member

Static Charge's energy gainback ignores the enemy's resistance/defense, while the actual damage does not. Although when I've been using static charge it gets blocked far too much.=/

-Whirl
Post #: 17
11/12/2011 13:36:46   
johnny be good
Banned


 Cyber Hunter is already very bad, let the Static Charge be as it is!
Post #: 18
11/12/2011 13:54:03   
Khannibal
Member

Frostlich i've never had a quarrel with your ideas so far, but the idea of nerfing a class that has no passive skill that influences MP and HP, or a class that cannot influence being able to hit more often is a bad idea.

My static charge is constantly blocked, mainly by Strength TLMs with much lower dexterity and smokescreen, causing my stat points to be wasted as I can no longer hit, block etc. Then my entire strategy is useless.

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11/12/2011 20:51:43   
_LordReaper
Member

thanks i understand better
AQW Epic  Post #: 20
11/12/2011 20:53:48   
FrostHS
Banned


 Shut up and stop arguing it, half the times it's blocked by TLM's just be happy we don't have reroute or else you're the first person i'm after.
EDIT: *looks at his char page* oh your a TaM. SHOCKER THERE BUDDY

< Message edited by FrostHS -- 11/12/2011 21:09:12 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 21
11/12/2011 23:55:44   
Mecha Mario
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 Locking this up. Please keep all balance discussions in the Balance Discussions thread.
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