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5/7/2012 11:53:10   
Stabilis
Member

Here is my opinion on EpicDuel:

When I started playing this game I enjoyed the levelling and learning aspect. When most things are new, it is difficult to be bored then, no? Unless you are someone like me with an attention disorder. Anyways, I entered EpicDuel at the same time I purchased Beta gear, which I started using at level 12. I was still learning EpicDuel but because of the Beta gear I had little trouble in PvP. It is about level 25 when most players are using a Support Tech Mage if you know what I mean... they were everywhere in the game. Why be THAT? I could only imagine that because it was an overpowered setup that everyone used it for either wins or ratio or power. I rarely saw someone without one of the 2 overused builds.

Well, being the Hipster that I am, I used a Stun Grenade build on top of Smokescreen. I still managed a 2:1 ratio amongst the masses. Later on many players changed to Strength Bounty Hunters and I changed to a Dexterity Tech Mage. Still, I managed a 2:1 ratio. Everytime I play there would be about 2 build setups that most people use. Today there are countless Strength and EMP Cyber Hunters who often fail at my feet and the many Strength Blood Mages who SOMETIMES overpower me in damage while I use a mixed Tech Mage setup. Where has the ingenuity of the players gone? Are some players so weak in their concious as to give in and jump on the bandwagon? It doesn't stop there, after those overused builds are nerfed they would jump to whatever build is approved by the other senior players (such as he who designed Strength Tactical Mercenaries). And yet, few people ever develop a standout build of their own for what reason? Laziness?

Really. The most serious problem with PvP here is that everything is about damage this damage that. Fireball and Berzerker only ever happens once! If someone gets past that assault then what is left besides low Dexterity low Technology characters with high damage Primaries and Sidearms? Spam spam and spam those attacks. Take away those attacks and you have a nekkid Bloodlust build that gets dummied by defensive builds!

I think we should stop this raid of nonsensical builds and OP jumping just because it only harms the classes that ARE popular. If you were a Malfunction Tech Mage and the majority jumps to your class and exploits your Plasma Bolt for example, how is that clean? The game is relatively new minus the ownership changes, so we have many parts of this game that are unstable really, but is reacting on a level of mass influence the real answer? I do not wish to see the masses of jumpers ruin yet another skill(s).

< Message edited by Depressed Void -- 5/7/2012 14:33:27 >
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5/7/2012 12:55:22   
kingpowerlord
Member

depressed nothing could stop this unless somehow you can hide ur skill tree and stats
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5/7/2012 14:21:16   
frogbones
Banned


Or hide/get rid of win ratios.

Or make retrain cost 50 credits free.

< Message edited by frogbones -- 5/7/2012 15:17:17 >


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Can't stand what ED has become, and every 5 focus zombie only helps to stagnate this game further.
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5/7/2012 14:40:25   
Stabilis
Member

Those are not bad suggestions at all. When I get home I will upload a concept photo of what could be shown vs what should not.
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5/7/2012 14:50:07   
kingpowerlord
Member

depressed try and find a solution and pic like a check button on inventory u should upload tthe piconto the interface suggestions
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5/7/2012 15:01:25   
.Sir Lazarus.
Member

Guys.... Evolve or die. Thats the one and only truth in this kind of game development.

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5/7/2012 15:14:25   
Stabilis
Member

Also, retraining helps, by making a new build.

Now I am home so I can work on the image.
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5/7/2012 15:15:49   
frogbones
Banned


Yo Laz! What up mang....

The problem with Shaniqua's famous quote is that in an imperfect (i.e., imbalanced) game, evolve or die takes on a new meaning---one that I think Shani wouldn't approve of.

As it stands now, "Evolve or die" just means class-hop to CH. In its original context, I believe Shaniqua was referring to changing one's build to strategically battle and compete with other new builds.

Paying to class hop to a class devoid of any strategy is hardly what she was talking about, imo.
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5/7/2012 18:00:12   
Stabilis
Member

Any graphic designers out there? If I have white on black or white on colour, how would I blend where the white was into the rest of the image? Example, if I had a white lightning bolt on the Mona Lisa, what would I do to patch over the obscurity to restore (even partially) the rest of the image? Do I need to take 2 layers and manipulate 1 while I use the other as a base?
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5/7/2012 19:20:27   
DeathGuard
Member

quote:

Or make retrain cost 50 credits free.
I have stated this several times but seems it is no use since Devs won't listen. They are many pros for this idea and no cons.

< Message edited by DeathGuard -- 5/7/2012 20:34:24 >
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5/7/2012 19:48:42   
Mr. Black OP
Member

^
How is a free retrain bad? Everyone I know has at least 500 credits.
Pros: No longer have to waste thousands of credits fine tuning a build, due to free retrains people will be more like to experiment with creative builds, and the game will be a bit more affordable credit wise.
Con: Build Copying? But that happens anyways.

@below
So you have never had to retrain before?

< Message edited by zman 2 -- 5/7/2012 19:53:02 >
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5/7/2012 19:50:43   
Wraith
Member
 

@zman: You don't know me then. I actually have the record for 0 credits. That's right, FLAT ZERO.
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5/7/2012 20:29:34   
DeathGuard
Member

Zman 2: I should edit my post, I meant the opposite sorry, I was distracted by something and post it all wrong.
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5/7/2012 20:30:12   
kodix101
Member

I just equal out every stat except support. that my lowest.
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5/7/2012 21:03:23   
entidadpunk
Member

i designed my own build and i have a 2/1 win ratio (464/183)

note:level 26
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5/7/2012 22:01:13   
MrBones
Member

I don't see too many people with my built, yet alone my class. I stand tall in front of all those OP built chasers.

The time for fast wins over quality fights is over. Some players will mature, some will never do. It's just life. Remember that for some of those kids, their win record/ratio is everything.

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- Abraham Lincoln
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5/7/2012 22:05:46   
Zeoth
Member

^
Ikr it's scary how important their ratio is important to some people. Downright shameful. Variety no longer exists in this game as passives are so limiting that their a requirement.
I hope this game makes the right step in its direction.
Post #: 17
5/8/2012 18:29:00   
.Sir Lazarus.
Member

Omg do you realy think that is Shaniquas quote? xD

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5/8/2012 22:46:26   
frogbones
Banned


Wasn't it?

I mean, I know it was made famous in some Hollywood movie (right?), but wasn't it Shaniqua who made it famous in-game?

< Message edited by frogbones -- 5/8/2012 22:47:08 >
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5/9/2012 3:43:00   
PivotalDisorder
Member

I definitely understand the frustration with the player community. wasn't that long ago everyone was BM and TM, made actually playing those
classes very boring, especially as I hate using the "obvious power builds" and if you don't, you lose a lot more, and to players you know are bad.

it ruined CH for me completely, I put my TM's on the shelf for now, and getting very sick of being told my Blood Mage should have max bludgeon and fireball.

the staff are partly to blame for creating huge gulfs between certain class/build combos but in the end the player base must hold their hands up and admit
that they are so desperate to win at an incredibly basic turn based flash game, that they will literally sacrifice all their pride and self worth for it. all of it.
Post #: 20
5/9/2012 4:02:26   
Zeoth
Member

^
True dat. My main is gather dust so I rarely play the game anymore. The lack of balance and the senseless and endless amount of bad sports, build copiers, cocky players. It truly disgusts me. So do those cookie cutter builds I mean really? >_>
Post #: 21
5/9/2012 5:06:39   
Darkwing
Member

Evolve or die= full enhancements + OP class ftw .

they killed pvp and balance with enhancements.

< Message edited by Darkwing -- 5/9/2012 5:08:04 >
Post #: 22
5/9/2012 8:44:23   
PivotalDisorder
Member

stats diminish though, something that didn't happen before enhancements ^^

I think game can be balanced a lot more WITHOUT removing enhancements although I would suggest enhancements only becoming
active once you are the same level [or higher] than the enhanced item. would be a buff for level capped Juggernauts, and make life
a bit easier for non-vars, as level 29-30 varium players are usually fully geared, fully enhanced and seriously OP compared to non-vars
Post #: 23
5/9/2012 8:51:23   
RageSoul
Member

@Pivotal
Agreed . I mean , if the others are gonna look at it , stat diminished didn't really helped so well . Why? I can't make a good Tank build all thanks to STR builds and defensive stats getting weaker .
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5/12/2012 1:40:06   
.Sir Lazarus.
Member

Well she didnt made it famous ingame for those who allready knew it. I knew it from the name of the book writen by Robin Crow :/

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