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7/3/2012 5:47:41   
VIX
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Hey, Please post here saying what you've Liked in War Infernal and What You Didn't like in This War and ( Why ) and ( What you think its the solution )!




  • What I liked :

    -I Liked how the Minetower Infernal Looks like ( The View ), it's so awesome and few things too.




    Title: What i Disliked is The Delta Vault BOSS ( Health ) + ( Damage ) + ( Hits ).

  • What I Disliked :

    -The Delta Vault BOSS:

    -Solution:If We're able to Keep Battling Delta Vault BOSS Without Going back to Battle ( 1v1 )\(2v2) it would be more fun and more competition between Legions and exiles but 75% of people Disliked this ( 1v1-2v2 ) Thingy before battling Delta Vault BOSS. To make this more Fair with this HUGE Health and damage and Hits ( Remove those Challenges 1v1-2v2 ) and base them in-game like the other NPCs. like this we can keep battling Delta Vault BOSS without getting mad from every 1v1-2v2 battles.

  • The Delta Vault BOSS ( Health ) :

    -Solution: I think 10.000.000 Is better than 25.000.000 ). Since people are only removing 3Millions-->7Millions Max Health from Delta Vault a day, and if Exiles Destroyed Delta Vault 1st Exiles Players will reward a Cheevo and Same With Legions and Whenever the Delta Vault is Destroyed on RESET Delta Vault Health will get back to 10.000.000 Health and the same everytime the DV BOSS is Destroyed.

  • Delta Vault BOSS (Damage and Hits ) : Why Delta Vault Hits you more then 5-6 hits in 1 Turn , Delta Vault hits are like Massacre ( 3-6-9-7-19 ) then next hit the damage start Raising more to ( 6-9-13-21 ) and last hit is ( 9-9-10-26 ).

    -Solution: Make Delta Vault Hits not more than ( 2-3 Hits ) and with less damage a bit ( Damage shouldn't passe 18-25 Damage unless it's Critical Then Fine).

  • NPC 2v2 System : It's a bit bad and those NPCs are useless in 2v2 , why? They do Worst then normal people , Instant of Healing you or helping you on attacking the same opponent, he doesn't do anything more then hitting randomly and healing himself and criting like Crazy and Deflecting like Crazy.

    -Solution : Remove those 2v2 Challenges when we want to battle Delta Vault and base them in-game like the other NPCs. like this we can keep battling Delta Vault BOSS without getting mad from every 2v2 battles, 2v2 NPC are annoying Like example if there was a BloodMage Vs you and he started with Fireball there is no way to win why? cuz your smart partner that is an NPC that doesn't help you with anything and + doesn't Heal you . the only thing he does is healing himself and attacking randomly so that's pretty much bad and really annoying and it wasn't me the only one saying about this i've heard a lot of people and some of my friends and some of my members that quit the war cuz of this 2v2 system in War.

    DO NOT Flame please and Say only what you liked and what you Disliked Nothing more. This thread Created to see people opinions about The War and about what they liked and what they Disliked.

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  • -Thanks for understanding.
    -VIX

    < Message edited by VIX -- 7/3/2012 5:49:41 >
  • Epic  Post #: 1
    7/3/2012 5:53:38   
    theholyfighter
    Member

    What I Liked: The new NPCs made some battles easier.
    What I Disliked: In 2 vs 2, the Heavy Mechachilid did stuff that made me lose.
    AQW Epic  Post #: 2
    7/3/2012 6:05:56   
    Unknown Nub
    Member

    What I liked :

    - Nothing in all honesty


    What I Disliked :
    - Its ruining everybodys 2v2 win rate whos not level 34 with varium, as its making you play 1v1 against level 34 full varium and enhanced over 80% of the games (I played 103 games and 86 were against 34 full var)

    - The vault is overpowered, as Vix said the damage rising each turn is stupid.. and the fact that the vault has a high dex makes you wonder why the high hp?

    - You cant chose whether you want to play 1v1 or 2v2, how am i supposed to know if im going to use a 1v1 or 2v2 build?

    - Theres no credit bomb, giving a huge advantage to those people who have jobs compared to children who are around 16 or younger

    -Solution : Doesn't take a genius to figure it out.. balance the matchmaking, option for 1v1 or 2v2, introduce credit bombs to the war, keep the vault damage sustained, not doubling each round and lower its dex


    Also, you need a faction to be able to participate in the war. People are cruel and dont invite lower levels to their factions, so how on earth are they supposed to play in the war?

    < Message edited by Unknown Nub -- 7/3/2012 6:17:09 >
    Post #: 3
    7/3/2012 6:19:11   
    Oba
    Member

    Aww. Yea its a shame people have to do 2vs2 now and see how screwed this battle mode is... And you shouldnt complain, its NPC's damnit!

    I like this war though, kill a exile player and then try to break the vault. I'd rather have it like this then a respawning vault door with lower hp.

    And the fact is that your enemy also have this "nooby" NPC partner in 2vs2, so in other words its a fair deal and YOU might need to change build and stop spamming str.

    < Message edited by Oba -- 7/3/2012 6:22:44 >
    AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 4
    7/3/2012 6:22:31   
    kingpowerlord
    Member

    what i like:
    variums less influnce in the war

    what i dislike:
    gonna be a pretty short war 2 million damage in one day
    i hope theres a boss fight
    AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 5
    7/3/2012 6:34:26   
    veneeria
    Member

    what i like:
    everything

    what i dislike:
    nothing
    AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 6
    7/3/2012 6:38:25   
    steven11113
    Member

    What I like:
    Boosting my influnce faster on my personal influnce.

    What I disklike:
    Can not control Heavy mechachilid during battle.
    AQW Epic  Post #: 7
    7/3/2012 6:47:17   
    arceus12345
    Member

    what i like :

    get more influence

    what i hate :
    those mecha droids
    solution : it would be better if we could control those droids in 2vs2 :D
    AQW Epic  Post #: 8
    7/3/2012 6:48:17   
    Fay Beeee
    Member

    Before I reply to this. I just want to say this my my PERSONAL opinion only.


    -The Delta Vault BOSS: It is not meant to be easy Vix. All things that are harder to get, are more appreciated when achieved. :) I think

    75% of people Disliked this ( 1v1-2v2 ) Thingy before battling Delta Vault BOSS. This is in your opinion. I do not think that the true number would be 75%. Sorry. Stick at it. Think of it as a little bit of farming and experience. :)

    -Solution: I think 10.000.000 Is better than 25.000.000 ). Since people are only removing 3Millions-->7Millions Max Health from Delta Vault a day, and if Exiles Destroyed Delta Vault 1st Exiles Players will reward a Cheevo and Same With Legions and Whenever the Delta Vault is Destroyed on RESET Delta Vault Health will get back to 10.000.000 Health and the same everytime the DV BOSS is Destroyed. Not quite sure that your solution would work? May be you should post this one in the balance forum or suggestions?

    Delta Vault BOSS (Damage and Hits ) : Why Delta Vault Hits you more then 5-6 hits in 1 Turn , Delta Vault hits are like Massacre ( 3-6-9-7-19 ) then next hit the damage start Raising more to ( 6-9-13-21 ) and last hit is ( 9-9-10-26 ). It was explained in video 4 that with each hit, the vault will get stronger and stronger, to defend its self. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYFvSK-c-L8&feature=youtu.be


    NPC 2v2 System : It's a bit bad and those NPCs are useless in 2v2 , why? They do Worst then normal people , Instant of Healing you or helping you on attacking the same opponent, he doesn't do anything more then hitting randomly and healing himself and criting like Crazy and Deflecting like Crazy. In my opinion they make 2v2 more interesting, giving all gamers a chance. They are variety. :)

    Ssome of my friends and some of my members that quit the war cuz of this 2v2 system in War. Sorry about this. The war was explained it will NOT be the same as Frysteland. And it is not, thats for sure. But I am sorry that your friend and members do not have the staying power for the challenge of it.


    Mostly I like all of it. It is NOT easy and was never meant to be. Respect to you Vix for coming up with your solutions. I hope you put this in the correct threads, so they will get read. :)
    Have fun all and stay safe.

    DO NOT Flame please and Say only what you liked and what you Disliked Nothing more. This thread Created to see people opinions about The War and about what they liked and what they Disliked.

    < Message edited by Fay Beeee -- 7/3/2012 6:49:13 >
    Epic  Post #: 9
    7/3/2012 6:56:40   
    Drianx
    Member

    MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT:

    Somehow smart ED developers decided to launch a thing named Locker key weeks before war started. I was in Exile faction so I grabbed the Exile locker key. Anyway I knew that items will be similar in stats.

    At some point I joined a Legion faction, because my old one was really hopeless and inactive. So I joined Legion in the war.

    Now guess what?
    1.Lawman has been moved to Exile zone, that I cannot enter.
    2.Silas tells me I cannot access his shop because I have the Exile locker key.

    Therefore I cannot access ANY alignment shop!

    Ain't that smart game developement?
    AQW Epic  Post #: 10
    7/3/2012 6:59:14   
    Joe10112
    Member

    I like:

    The idea of the boss. It is a very interesting one, and a "race to break the door" is relaly interesting.
    I also like how in 1v1, we're fighitng level 35s who arn't that hard (unless they get lucky)

    I dislike:

    2v2. I think we should be given two "passages" to the vault, one solely for 1v1, other for 2v2. I don't want to fight 2v2. In fact, whenever I see "3 players found...", I usually cancel. I'm not built for 2v2, I really dislike 2v2 unless it is Power Hour. I only want to fight 1v1, and I think ED team could improve on that.

    AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 11
    7/3/2012 7:02:30   
    Fay Beeee
    Member

    Joe I am a 1v1 fighter also.
    Just fight the players opposite side. (well mostly) Get the mind set that the other two are there for support. That's what I am doing :)

    < Message edited by Fay Beeee -- 7/3/2012 7:07:26 >
    Epic  Post #: 12
    7/3/2012 7:04:37   
    Joe10112
    Member

    @Fay: I do that, but it's really awkward/disappointing when you are counting on your partner to kill the opponent with 5 HP left. And then the AI hits the other AI, completely clueless that a hit on the human would kill. Almost every battle has this scenario where a human would have better ideas.

    A player controlled-AI would REALLY make things interesting. It would be 2v2 but 1v1. THAT would be really fun to play, but might be too hard to implement?

    AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 13
    7/3/2012 7:09:47   
    friend18
    Member

    What I Like: The new 1v1 and 2v2 modes. Now, people can't just constantly NPC their record. And at the same time, a player can't just spam the game with a 1v1 build.

    What I Dislike: We have no control over our NPC, which is kind of annoying. It's not a major issue though. What I dislike the most is that we weren't given a warning about the shops moving behind restricted war zones. Now, I'm stuck with an Exile Locker Key, that I went for, solely because the crystal weapons are 10 times better looking than the death flame weapons... And now I'm unable to access the shop at all and access future updates to the shop. I won't be able to even get the new level 35 weapons -_-. I propose adding a shop button to the two footsoldiers up in front of the mines. That would be the quickest solution, since a button linking to the shop would be all that is needed (less work than creating a new NPC etc.).

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    Joe I am a 1v1 fighter also.
    Just fight the players opposite side. (well mostly) Get the mind set that the other two are there for support. That's what I am doing :)


    100% true. I always consider my partner as someone who can deal extra damage. Most of the time, I end up telling them what to do anyways. It's usually like that for every 2v2 game. In this case, I don't have to. I just let my partner run around dealing damage. The nice part is that he can go after a blood mage and actually deal damage unlike many 2v2 partners that I've had.

    < Message edited by friend18 -- 7/3/2012 7:15:15 >
    AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 14
    7/3/2012 7:10:28   
    DOOMdeath
    Member

    I like:

    almost everything

    Only dislike:

    NPCs are useless in 2v2 and that made me lose many times.
    DF AQW Epic  Post #: 15
    7/3/2012 7:19:57   
    Joe10112
    Member

    quote:


    100% true. I always consider my partner as someone who can deal extra damage. Most of the time, I end up telling them what to do anyways. It's usually like that for every 2v2 game. In this case, I don't have to. I just let my partner run around dealing damage. The nice part is that he can go after a blood mage and actually deal damage unlike many 2v2 partners that I've had.


    Although I never thought of that, it's sound logic. Just the fact that the AIs make bad choices in critical situations is very annoying. Plus, the mismatches in 2v2 are annoying enough. I mean, it is relatively hard to not rage after fighting 5 2v2 battles in a row against fully-geared level 34 var users as a nonvar level 33 user, with heavy bots on either side.
    AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 16
    7/3/2012 7:23:00   
    VIX
    Member

    Always remember some people doesn't like 2v2 at all , 1v1 players likes 1v1 not 2v2 ,and our builds are made for 1v1 not 2v2, even if they are npc , 2v2 npc needs different builds. so i prefere if 2v2 change to 1v1 only or remove both and let us battle Delta Vault Without fighting npcs , base those NPC that we're fighting b4 Delta Vault in-game. that's my opinion

    -VIX
    Epic  Post #: 17
    7/3/2012 7:24:56   
    ngshuyi94
    Member

    The reason why u cant choose between 1vs1 and 2vs2 is because people will usually choose 1vs1 to get to the vault quicker, because it is the objective of the war.

    This is what i think, may not be true.

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    Epic  Post #: 18
    7/3/2012 7:26:33   
    Oba
    Member

    Well then we can look at it from another angle, some players are 2vs2 players, with 2vs2 builds... you need to think before you open your mouth O boy...
    AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 19
    7/3/2012 7:28:02   
    VIX
    Member

    @ngshuyi94,

    it's boring battling everytime random things and our builds are made for 1v1 , if we play 1v1 vs people normal and u have 2v2 build u can't win and if u have 1v1 build and u in 2v2 u can't win 2v2, since those NPC attack randomly and doesn't help you in anything more then attacking randomly.

    If We're able to Keep Battling Delta Vault BOSS Without Going back to Battle ( 1v1 )\(2v2) it would be more fun and more competition between Legions and exiles but 75% of people Disliked this ( 1v1-2v2 ) Thingy before battling Delta Vault BOSS

    what you think?
    -VIX
    Epic  Post #: 20
    7/3/2012 7:30:46   
    Oba
    Member

    quote:

    75% of people Disliked this ( 1v1-2v2 ) Thingy before battling Delta Vault BOSS


    Ok, who did this survey?? I havent heard about it!? I doubt these are correct numbers you genius... how about you get some correct information before claiming things
    AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 21
    7/3/2012 7:32:53   
    Ranloth
    Banned


    Allowing us to stay in fault would cause to just attack Vault over and over without engaging into actual fights and getting achievements quicker. It's a war - you fight real people not a giant Vault, I hope you do know what real Wars look like? They don't fight giant door but people.. <.< <.> >.>

    Also where do you have 75% from? I'd like to see your data which is crucial here if you make such a big statements with hate on the war. And lastly, you asked us for OUR opinion yet you butt into each other's views and try to change them? Don't ask for opinions if you don't like them, this is General Discussion and we're entitled to our opinions.


    < Message edited by Trans -- 7/3/2012 8:33:57 >
    AQ Epic  Post #: 22
    7/3/2012 7:37:02   
    ngshuyi94
    Member

    @ VIX

    Well, ik, just voicing out my opinion as to why the war may be made in this way.
    Epic  Post #: 23
    7/3/2012 9:08:45   
    friend18
    Member

    @Vix - There are various builds that work for both 1v1 and 2v2.
    AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 24
    7/3/2012 9:13:25   
    VIX
    Member

    @friend18: I'm a 1v1 Player not 2v2 . this word is enough to explain what i mean.

    -VIX
    Epic  Post #: 25
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