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2/2/2013 5:58:40   
theholyfighter
Member

To what I've found out:
Enhancements are not one reason for Str BH to be Oped. It IS due to Blood Lust.
Those bounty hunters have no enhancements. They usually build up Smoke Screen to Lvl 6 and MAX Blood Lust. With their primary damage at 35(which is the total of strength calculation+weapon damage), they dominate freakingly. This provides proof for those who said: Bounties are now Oped because of enhancements. Those predictions and theories or guessings are WRONG. The skill Blood Lust itself is already Oped, because it gives back ACTUAL HEALTH, which in other words the KEY TO DECIDE WHO WINS THE BATTLE.

Something not important:
quote:

How did I find out?
Simply created a TM and went on battles at lower levels.


This is how I'd like to slightly nerf Blood Lust.
quote:


Note: the numbers are percenrages.
Lvl 1: 5
Lvl 2: 7
Lvl 3: 9
Lvl 4: 11
Lvl 5: 13
Lvl 6: 15
Lvl 7: 17
Lvl 8: 18
Lvl 9: 19
MAX: 20


Any constructive feedback is welcomed. No trolling/flaming/whining.
AQW Epic  Post #: 1
2/2/2013 6:19:01   
TRizZzCENTRINO
Member

strength is OPed that's why, if the strength scaling gets a little fix, then im sure it will fix it.
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 2
2/2/2013 6:22:46   
theholyfighter
Member

^ It wouldn't get fixed too much tho. For example,b4 the calculation, a person with 80 str gets 20 primary damage. After the change of the calculation, the person would have 18 instead. 2 damage decrease is obviously ineffective.
AQW Epic  Post #: 3
2/2/2013 6:25:22   
TRizZzCENTRINO
Member

@above well you wouldn't know what they are gonna do this time, plus strength build wouldn't be effective or somewhat possible in omega, debuff and buff skills would also get a slight nerf due to the lack of stats.
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 4
2/2/2013 6:28:26   
theholyfighter
Member

May be true, but a question keeps on questioning me...
How'd ppl have less stats? For a f2p, their stats don't get less IMO, if what I think is correct...
However, it's still better to w8 till Omega (hopefully Monday/Tuesday next week)...
AQW Epic  Post #: 5
2/2/2013 8:06:40   
Mother1
Member

Remember health and energy will only be giving 1 per point instead of two so that right there will be less stats since health and energy are both stats.

Also we both know health is more important then energy so in order to make the any build even remotely similar they are going to have to cut corners elsewhere. With strength builds defenses are already low now, so if they want to make the same or even close strength build they will have to take out even less defenses for that build to work, and there will be more risk to using that build.

For focus builds same thing but they will have less health and/or energy. Can you see where I am getting at now?
Epic  Post #: 6
2/2/2013 8:21:20   
theholyfighter
Member

^
1. Yep there'd be less health so the same amount of damage would be more critical.
2. Yep health is more important than energy so it wouldn't make sense if health can be gained as easily as energy.

But this question is still questioning me:
How do you guys know that there will be less stats?
AQW Epic  Post #: 7
2/2/2013 9:01:11   
Mother1
Member

@ theholyfighter

Weapons won't be give extra stats like they do now as well. as it is now a non varium weapon will give you less stats then a varium weapon at that same level. In omega every weapon of it's kind will give the same stats meaning no extra stats do to weapons, and no more stats due to enhancements.
Epic  Post #: 8
2/2/2013 9:54:30   
theholyfighter
Member

I think I lack info or something...
quote:


Weapons won't be give extra stats like they do now as well

How'd you know that? A normal lvl 35 non var gun gives 16 stats, but in the video Practel gave a lvl 35 gun gives 20 stats...

quote:


as it is now a non varium weapon will give you less stats then a varium weapon at that same level.

So you mean that builds non-vars use now may be able to use again in Omega? Meaning that the "less stats" refer to the comparison of Varium weapons and Non-var weapons?

AQW Epic  Post #: 9
2/2/2013 11:14:16   
  Exploding Penguin
Moderator


 I agree blood lust should get a nerf by 2-3%. It would pretty much fix all the problems people have with BM/BH, but I worry one thing:

-BH focus would be severely underpowered. They would lack defensive capabilities, particularly if EMPed. Since they base a good amount of damage off of tech-scaling smoke, once the lose their energy they're pretty much doomed for the fight.
Epic  Post #: 10
2/2/2013 21:52:59   
theholyfighter
Member

Being energy drained shouldn't be a reason since all classes can be energy drained. Or they could have used an energy booster or EMP back.
AQW Epic  Post #: 11
2/3/2013 11:10:39   
  Exploding Penguin
Moderator


 @theholyfighter: If I'm using 50 energy BH and someone EMPs me for 42 at the start of the fight, I can't do anything without boosting, including EMPing them back. Plus, if you have 2 hunters and they have 2 energy boosters (tank builds), then whoever goes first can permanently seal the opponent's energy because they can always emp before the opponent.
Epic  Post #: 12
2/3/2013 16:50:57   
Giras Wolfe
Member

Blood lust is not OPed, Massacre is.

With Blood Mages, bloodlust isn't OPed, its Bloodlust combined with Bludgeon and Deadly Aim.

< Message edited by Giras Wolfe -- 2/3/2013 16:51:42 >
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 13
2/4/2013 8:25:27   
theholyfighter
Member

@Exploding Penguin
Being energy-drained is not BH-focus only. And yes, days ago I've tested a mini-tech-abuse build (with 88 tech). I had my EMP grenade able to take away 36 energy. I went to a fight, and this is what happened. I met a var-5focus-bh. He had his EMP at lvl 6 and took away 44 energy from me, while I only have 46 left. Btw, because of the terrible nerf to Static Charge and his massive tech, I am left without no energy. To add on, for the whole battle I didn't even get energy enough for an EMP... The part about being energy-drained acts for all classes...

@Giras
Blood Lust IS Oped when combined with massive damage. An average BH/BM can gain at least 20 health from BloodLust! Imagine a duel facing a BM/BH without BloodLust... One of the major factors which lead to the domination of BHs and BMs is BloodLust...
AQW Epic  Post #: 14
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