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4/28/2013 17:38:00   
AronDeux
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 Alot of bounty hunters have alot of dexterity and they use Stun Grenade with Multi Shot.It makes them really overpowered and it's so annoying.You can't do any physical damage to them and you just get owned in 2 turns.
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4/28/2013 17:39:40   
Drangonslayer
Member

Then you should get more defense or find a way to remove their energy. I'm assuming your talking about the low levels? May i ask which level?

< Message edited by Drangonslayer -- 4/28/2013 17:41:28 >
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 2
4/28/2013 17:40:30   
Ranloth
Banned
quote:

You can't do any physical damage to them and you just get owned in 2 turns.

Use Energy attack. Very obvious counter. That's why it's usually advised to have both types of weapons.
AQ Epic  Post #: 3
4/28/2013 17:41:32   
Mother1
Member

wow this is a first hearing about dex bounty hunters being OP. Well if they have high dex use energy attacks on them.

Hit them with EMP so they can't use their attacks if you are a hunter yourself. Use your unblockables on them that are energy based as well since if they have high dex they have low resist. There are many counters for this build you just need to find them and use them.
Epic  Post #: 4
4/28/2013 17:42:05   
AronDeux
Member
 

 Well i'm a level 16 merc currently and i got max Hybrid armor and a medium defence comparing to other my level people.
Defence:13-16+1+6
Resistance 14-17+2+5
I go more on strength to do some damage because increasing my defence makes my attacks alot weaker
Post #: 5
4/28/2013 17:44:54   
Drangonslayer
Member

If i was i wouldnt have bought that gun its glitched like you said and its really expensive. Go for more of a tanky build like a bunker one and have your primary phsycial and energy gun (later) and energy aux.
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 6
4/28/2013 17:45:29   
AronDeux
Member
 

 The EMP idea is really good but i would still hit low damage on them.
Post #: 7
4/28/2013 18:12:12   
NDB
Member

quote:

Alot of bounty hunters have alot of dexterity and they use Stun Grenade with Multi Shot.It makes them really overpowered and it's so annoying.You can't do any physical damage to them and you just get owned in 2 turns.


Um... what?
Epic  Post #: 8
4/28/2013 18:24:39   
Xendran
Member

Dex hunters really aren't that bad unless they're also 5 focus. Bloodlust is ridiculously powerful right now though, and BH has 4 skills that are extremey high synergy, 3 of which are currently innately overpowered. Smoke + Shadow + EMP + Bloodlust.
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 9
4/28/2013 18:29:09   
NDB
Member

Yes, they are quite bad. 1 EMP and their dead and this is especially easy when you always go first because of their horrible support. If you don't have EMP, a multi and a stun aren't that hard to survive. Their resistance won't be that good and defense also isn't that high. Also take in a account that you are likely to crit. Blood lust is not a problem when they deal near 3 every other turn.
Epic  Post #: 10
4/28/2013 18:59:31   
Mother1
Member

@ NDB and Xendran

This person is actually a lower level where these builds are actually more powerful and where focus 5 doesn't exist since they don't have enough stats. He said he was a level 17 merc.
Epic  Post #: 11
4/28/2013 20:28:06   
Xendran
Member

True, i didn't read the full thread. I don't really know anything about how the balance looks at low levels because the scaling is so off that i can't really predict it without experiencing it.
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 12
4/28/2013 20:41:56   
Mother1
Member

@ xendran

Well I used alts at those levels, and at the level he is at focus doesn't work. Most players at that level don't own a robot, to reap the benefits of focus, (if they can get focus 1 or 2 due to low stats) and even if they could you would get clobbered by quick kill builds since that is what the what rules the lower levels. Matches from what I have experienced in 1 vs 1 last 2-3 turns since I only see stat abuse builds that put most of their stats into one area to get 2-3 powerful attacks that end the match before the other person could counter.
Epic  Post #: 13
4/28/2013 22:26:39   
  Exploding Penguin
Moderator


 You, sir, haven't experienced the epitome of annoying unless you were a level 30+ fighting those numerous amounts of mass BHs back in delta.

Anyways, if you're using strength, you already have a disadvantage because of the fact that dex increases block chance. I would suggest trying a tech-based build with armor points into defense, and a level 5-ish bunker with energy gun and auxiliary.
Epic  Post #: 14
4/29/2013 1:54:48   
Synner
Member

Bh is not op i beat alot of them with my ch. the one that is op is caster tm combine it with botanical bot (unlimited special use), frost bite/frost shard and assimilate they are hard to beat.
Post #: 15
4/29/2013 7:30:33   
odsey
Member

@Syner he is a lvl 16 merc, I heard that BH may be OP at low levels.
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 16
4/29/2013 7:52:44   
Silver Sky Magician
Member


 Yes, BH may be OP at lower levels...but I would imagine the cause to be Smokescreen, not Multi Shot and Stun Grenade...if he's having trouble with the likes of those, how on earth is he handling caster mages? Even in the heyday of SA, it was Strength BHs that were considered 'OP', not Dex Hunters.
Post #: 17
4/29/2013 11:48:01   
Sensei Chan
Member

I Also Have Something To Add To This.
Bounty Hunters Stun Grenade Is 3 Energy Lower Than Cyber Hunters Stun Grenade Also This Isn't Fair As Bounty Hunter Can Abuse Dex Making There Stun Grenade And Multi Better Than Cyber Hunters Because Cyber Hunters Cant Use Dex Abuse Because Cyber Hunters Stun Grenade Improves With Tech Not Dex So I Think Bounty Hunters Stun Grenade Should Cost 3 Energy More Not Less.
Now Lets Talk About Your Bounty Hunter Dex Abuse Problem.
Bounty Hunter Dont Have Armor So There Resistance Will Be Super Weak.
Try Using EMP Grenade On Them.
There Are Alot Of Counters For The Build But I Cant Name Them All.

< Message edited by Sensei Chan -- 4/29/2013 11:52:35 >
Epic  Post #: 18
4/29/2013 16:05:58   
STRUT MY MUTT
Member

quote:

Alot of bounty hunters have alot of dexterity and they use Stun Grenade with Multi Shot.It makes them really overpowered



Considering that you are the only person on Epic Duel I've ever seen complain about this, I'd say it's a perfect example of someone running straight to the forums and asking for a unnecessary Nerf just because they are weak to one certain build. It's far from Overpowered.

What's your class, build, weapons etc. so we can help you?






Post #: 19
4/29/2013 16:10:59   
Mother1
Member

@ strut

Did you read the entire thread? This person is a lower level player where these attacks have more of an impact then higher levels. Last I checked we rarely get lower level players posting here since most don't know about the forums.
Epic  Post #: 20
4/29/2013 16:16:55   
STRUT MY MUTT
Member

No sorry I didn't read it all, but I have low level characters too and have no issues with BH's.

AronDeux, I'm not the best player on ED or anything but if you want, I'll be happy to help you with your build, PM me.








Post #: 21
4/29/2013 19:01:00   
Dual Thrusters
Member

Current OP build: Focus

Focus=Strong stats, especially in technology

Strong technology:

-Strong EMP grenade
-Strong Smokescreen
-Strong Bot + Smoke
-High resistance

Bounties are powerful because focus is in favor of their skill tree.
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 22
4/29/2013 19:15:33   
Mother1
Member

@ dual

This person is a lower level where focus 5 doesn't exist at best you can only get focus 2 at his level and the level where is his at all the builds other then focus rain supreme down there.

But on another note with my build I personally find most focus 5 Bounty hunters to be either easy challenging depending the skill level of the hunter as well as luck factors.
Epic  Post #: 23
4/29/2013 19:49:57   
Scyze
Member

@Dual Thrusters,

The reason why the "tank builds" are strong is because they tank. It's always been like that.
BM was the top tanking class in Delta.

What else do you want people to do? Strength BH is nearly impossible...

quote:

Bounties are powerful because focus is in favor of their skill tree.
Hmm, was this a problem in Delta or any of the other phases? I still remember you could be a tanking BH before but BM was a better option.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 24
4/30/2013 6:55:09   
King FrostLich
Member

BH is the most underpowered class in the lower levels. I dunno what thread this is now since casters and bunker mercs simply dominate players during these times.
Epic  Post #: 25
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