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5/26/2013 21:35:15   
LatinLover/Martini
Member

just some suggestions
-Poison being able to defeat your opponents hp to 0.
-Poison being healed through Generator
-Poison decreased by 1 point on the hazard bots

This would increase probability of winning against the OP Tm's
AQW Epic  Post #: 1
5/26/2013 21:40:35   
Bloodpact
Member

I would love to see the generator idea implemented.
Bot doesn't need a debuff it's fine.
I've honestly never seen a point were poison would have killed me, so who cares :D.(Im indifferent on the outcome of it's future)
Epic  Post #: 2
5/26/2013 22:39:31   
Onlythestrong
Member

Not support it will over power.And ur feed the 2vs2 hunters and tac
Post #: 3
5/26/2013 22:57:59   
Mother1
Member

quote:

Poison being able to defeat your opponents hp to 0.


I remember you making a suggestion for this one. As for the idea itself I am neutral on this one.

quote:

-Poison being healed through Generator


Not supported. Poison actually costs energy while generator doesn't. Even though the core is one time use this would be abused and unfair to those who have to spend energy to use venom strike and toxic grenade.

quote:

-Poison decreased by 1 point on the hazard bots


The bots work with focus damage not individual points like venom strike and toxic grenade.

quote:

This would increase probability of winning against the OP Tm's


Yes and no depending on the situation.
Epic  Post #: 4
5/27/2013 0:13:57   
NDB
Member

TM's really aren't that OP any more. Most people's bolts went down by at least 5-7 points.
Epic  Post #: 5
5/27/2013 2:00:41   
martinsen5
Member

I once made a BH poison build with high defences, and the build mainly relied on poison in general. However I changed my build after a while, since I'd always have this problem where the enemy would reach below 12 HP and the poison couldn't kill them no matter what. IMO poison should be able to kill enemies, since atm not being able to kill someone with poison makes the skill terrible.

I do however not support the generator idea, seeing as everybody uses it and it'd make poison really UP, just what I think though.
AQW Epic  Post #: 6
5/27/2013 3:33:26   
Mysterion.
Member

quote:

Most people's bolts went down by at least 5-7 points

Those ppl went to TM because the bolt was OP.
It has been brought down to a regular level, which was necessary to keep our ''balance''.

For the poison kill idea, not supported.
Poison is a substance to weaken your enemy, most usefull against tank builds, it is not supposed to kill in my opinion.
For the poison negatating by generator, not supported.
This will be abused in the early Dots, making the move basically useless.
Decreasing the damage of the Poison bot, sure.
I dont use it so i wouldnt mind.

< Message edited by Mysterion. -- 5/27/2013 3:34:11 >
Epic  Post #: 7
5/27/2013 3:46:38   
Scyze
Member

quote:

TM's really aren't that OP any more. Most people's bolts went down by at least 5-7 points.
So, now you are unhappy that the PB got nerfed? You just want to have an OP caster build? I just think that you are unhappy that Mercenary got a buff that makes them do better against the caster TMs who keep using Assimilation. Therefore, you want Static Smash to be weaker...

Are you worried about your win ratio? OP Skills/builds are no fun to others. It was good PB got nerfed.


quote:

Poison being able to defeat your opponents hp to 0.
Defeating the opponent with poison is a nice idea, I agree with this. How about it kills you after a turn? So if you have 10 HP and your poison deals 11 per turn, you lose 10 HP as usual and then you get a turn to do something about it. If you don't, next turn you die. This can only work after your opponent has 5 or less HP.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 8
5/27/2013 3:58:14   
NDB
Member

quote:

So, now you are unhappy that the PB got nerfed? You just want to have an OP caster build? I just think that you are unhappy that Mercenary got a buff that makes them do better against the caster TMs who keep using Assimilation. Therefore, you want Static Smash to be weaker...

Are you worried about your win ratio? OP Skills/builds are no fun to others. It was good PB got nerfed.

Ok, when the hell did I ever say any of this you are accusing me of? And you realize that by nerfing the bot, it affect Casters who use it too right? And you know I complained A LOT about assim being OP too. The win ratio part doesn't have to do with anything and is invalid since I would think that most people do. Op skills/builds being not fun to others is an opinion on whats OP and I personally think Static Smasher is slightly OP. My opinion has nothing to do with you and you have no right to accuse me of such tings.

< Message edited by NDB -- 5/27/2013 4:14:40 >
Epic  Post #: 9
5/27/2013 12:04:47   
Scyze
Member

quote:

Op skills/builds being not fun to others is an opinion on whats OP and I personally think Static Smasher is slightly OP
So it's an opinion of OP Skills/builds not being fun? I guess you don't know games too well then. When things are too strong, and you abuse it, people start to lose their fun since they are getting beaten every time.
So now you think Static Smash is slightly OP when you said it was just OP in one of your Balance thread.

quote:

when the hell did I ever say any of this you are accusing me of?
The whole post sounds like a negative approach to the situation.

quote:

And you realize that by nerfing the bot, it affect Casters who use it too right?
What bot? Where did I post about a bot?

quote:

you know I complained A LOT about assim being OP too
A lot? Really? I didn't see much about this probably because I was busy with school work for some time.

quote:

The win ratio part doesn't have to do with anything and is invalid since I would think that most people do.
Well, considering your build, most people would call it a NPC ratio. You were using an OP build and for what reason? Caster TMs always had a high win ratio if you know how to use them. I had problems with them in Delta with my TLM build which would beat nearly every build.

quote:

My opinion has nothing to do with you and you have no right to accuse me of such tings.
What is this? Why can't I accuse you of things like this? I mean, where is it stated that I cannot accuse you? All I've done is posted something and it sounds like you are considering it illegal.
quote:

TM's really aren't that OP any more. Most people's bolts went down by at least 5-7 points.
Oh right, this was an opinion, but it's not a fact.

< Message edited by Malicious Neos -- 5/27/2013 12:06:53 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 10
5/27/2013 12:18:37   
Ranloth
Banned


 With exception of being blockable, which makes a major difference.
AQ Epic  Post #: 11
5/28/2013 9:08:52   
Khalix
Member

You suggested this before. You didn't need another thread.

My answer is no. The reason's in the old thread.

On an extra note, Neos seems to be aggressively accusing naysayers.
Epic  Post #: 12
5/28/2013 18:07:34   
LatinLover/Martini
Member

^ I added a few other things, that's why I made a new thread.
AQW Epic  Post #: 13
5/28/2013 18:17:29   
Bloodpact
Member

@Neos

He never had a negative approach on the subject.

in the post above it state's "the nerf on the posion bot would help for the OP TM's"

NDB simply said most TM are no longer OP, basically saying the need for the
nerf to the bot to help kill presumably OP TM is obsolete.

While I agree their plasma bolt is fine now as he said, maybe a couple points could
be knocked off their assimilation.( For popular demand )

Tho personally I find TM just right atm, with lil adjustments needed possibly.

< Message edited by Bloodpact -- 5/28/2013 18:18:01 >
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