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6/26/2016 16:02:43   
8x
Member

@Optimise
quote:

One cannot run a test on something without knowledge of the test subject especially about how it works, you could say we do not have a proper foundation to run a experiment/test on, we could be inanely going around in circles until we actually receive some official word on it.

The point of his test was to try to find out how exactly the Exile/Legion wins work.
Epic  Post #: 26
6/26/2016 16:09:54   
Optimise
Member

@8x - Indeed; but then he is also trying to conclude this case based on his supposed test giving the impression he knew how the system works to then dismiss the case by saying it may have been removed with the system revamp. It would also be near-impossible for him/us to find out how this function works by running a test because we do not have much to go on from. I'm simply saying the test carried out by him doesn't tell the whole story; we are definitely making progress on this vaguely mysterious feature albeit rather poorly and very slowly.

< Message edited by Optimise -- 6/26/2016 16:17:31 >
Post #: 27
6/26/2016 16:35:08   
8x
Member

He said that it may have been removed with the system revamp only if the alignment wins are no longer given out on the live server.

I suppose I can tell you how exactly the test was carried out since it's no big secret and anyone with a bit of knowledge of the past and current war systems would have carried it out the same exact way. He had a Legion character in a legion faction and an exile character in an exile faction on the dev server. On the Legion character he got a few pvp wins (which would have given him influence with the old system), on the exile character he fired off a few bombs (which gave him influence with the new/current system). Neither of the factions got a win.

quote:

It would also be near-impossible for him/us to find out how this function works by running a test because we do not have much to go on from.

If he has the ability to run tests, why shouldn't he run them? Because it's too hard to find out how the feature works?
Epic  Post #: 28
6/26/2016 19:21:12   
Optimise
Member

@8x - This is turning more into an argument that would aggravate rather than benefit this situation. I never implied that the supposed test carried out by him was or is a big secret, my question asking about how it was carried out was rather more of a rhetorical question to fortify my explanation and reasoning. Nor did I request him to stop carrying out the supposed tests, and am simply pointing out that it may eventually prove to be somewhat fruitless; he may carry out tests as many times as he wants, who am I to put a stop to this ferocious tiger trying to hunt down his prey.

There are not many (if any at all) options to try out anymore on the test realm as he has already tried what he had to try. I really do not see what other options he has in terms of testing to see how this feature works unless he decides to keep on trying the same thing; though repeating the same thing and expecting different results will undoubtedly lead to insanity. It is not near-impossible because it is "too hard" to find out how the feature works but rather that we do not have something to go on, we have a mere idea of it of which is really vague - there is nothing to test.

I find it quite insulting and ironic at the same time that you are indirectly and slyly questioning my intelligence about EpicDuel rather than just addressing my post/concern. Do not try to dismiss it by saying it was not aimed towards me, because it clearly was; I was the one who asked the question, and you are relatively saying those who are questioning the testing methods are not knowledgeable of EpicDuel and it's previous and current war systems.

Why do I find it insulting? I would say I am very knowledgeable about EpicDuel and also somewhat of AE as a whole as well; therefore I find your saying of me not being knowledgeable very disrespectful because you do not know me too well; if you wish to have a friendly or even unfriendly chat with me about my past then feel free to PM me because this isn't the place to talk about my past nor my knowledge of EpicDuel. Why do I find it ironic? I or we (as in the others excluding yourself and WhiteTiger) were required to explain the current war system to you and possibly WhiteTiger too and yet here you are questioning my knowledge instead.

If WhiteTiger was fairly knowledgeable about the current war process and activity he would not be asking us whether the factions are still being awarded wins, also, the method he carried out did not work meaning it simply did not provide us with the result we wanted and he has no options left to try out on the test servers. The very majority or the whole of ED staff team are not active and not aware of how things work, we would not be having this very discussion at the moment if they knew how the system made by themselves worked; and here my knowledge of EpicDuel is being questioned whereas we wasted half a thread explaining the current system. I will take WhiteTiger's behavior as a representative of the entire EpicDuel team including the developers because he is of course staff member. His and the developers supposed knowledge of this game as displayed on this thread does not reflect too well for them.

I am not attacking his methods, nor himself; but rather the system of which he is and I am a resident of. I will repeat what I said in my previous response; I'm simply saying the test (or further tests to come) carried out by him doesn't tell the whole story; we are definitely making progress on this vaguely mysterious feature albeit rather poorly and very slowly.


< Message edited by Optimise -- 6/26/2016 19:25:32 >
Post #: 29
6/26/2016 20:40:23   
  WhiteTiger

Majestic Feline of AQ3D & ED


 Let me clear things up, I performed a test on the dev server to see if I could get an answer to the question of how legion/exile wins work because before we can figure out if a system is broken or not, we first have to figure out how it works. I checked the 2015, 2016 design notes and some of the 2014 ones and I couldn't find any mention of changes to how legion/exile wins were recorded so I decided to test it on the dev server.

8x is correct on how I conducted the test because I told him about the test and my methodology prior to posting here through the wiki staff chat. I based my methodology on how the legion/exile wins worked in the past and how they could work right now with war damage = influence. Through logical inference, I felt that those two were the most likely systems in place as the description in-game says "The number of times the faction contributed toward a daily victory for their alignment".

quote:

Indeed; but then he is also trying to conclude this case based on his supposed test giving the impression he knew how the system works to then dismiss the case by saying it may have been removed with the system revamp.

I was asking about whether or not the live servers were still awarding legion/exile wins because the previous posts did not explicitly mention when the wins were being awarded. Thank you for providing the screenshots that explicitly showed that the live servers are still awarding those wins. Since I did not receive a win recorded on my exile or legion faction during my test, then if the live servers were producing the same result, then it would have been reasonable to conclude that the feature was removed even if I did not know how the system really worked (and to be clear, I don't know how the system works, that's what I was trying to find out with my test). If it was the case that the live servers were still awarding wins, then it would not have been reasonable to conclude that the feature was removed.

quote:

If WhiteTiger was fairly knowledgeable about the current war process and activity he would not be asking us whether the factions are still being awarded wins, also, the method he carried out did not work meaning it simply did not provide us with the result we wanted and he has no options left to try out on the test servers. The very majority or the whole of ED staff team are not active and not aware of how things work, we would not be having this very discussion at the moment if they knew how the system made by themselves worked; and here my knowledge of EpicDuel is being questioned whereas we wasted half a thread explaining the current system.

To be clear, I am not fairly knowledgeable about the current war process, which is why I asked for confirmation about what is happening on the live servers. You are correct that I have no more options to try out on the test server if my test didn't work out, but I just wanted to try and give an answer to this issue. I can't see where 8x was questioning your knowledge about the game, at most I can see that he is questioning why you were questioning how I conducted my test.

quote:

I will take WhiteTiger's behavior as a representative of the entire EpicDuel team including the developers because he is of course staff member. His and the developers supposed knowledge of this game as displayed on this thread does not reflect too well for them.

Please don't. Normally I try and avoid situations where I am not 100% confident in my answer, but in this case I was fairly confident that it would have been one of the two systems I tried so instead of leaving you guys without a response, I tried to find and give you one. Of course fairly confident only translates to "highly probable", which means I could be wrong, and in this case I was. While I am an NDA'd member of the team, that doesn't mean I know everything about the game. I'm pretty sure the developers also don't know how everything in the game works off the top of their head, but they have the ability to check the code base and see exactly how a feature works. I don't have that ability, but I do have the ability to perform some tests on the development server, so that is what I did. I'm sorry for not being clear that I didn't know how the system works and I was only trying to find out.

EDIT: To be explicitly clear and address your point in the second quote above about how the majority of the ED team is not aware of how the system made by themselves worked, only the software developers know how each system works. No artist, tester, moderator or wiki staff member knows how it works until a software developer tells them, which is not done for most changes because of legal reasons. For a small scale game like ED, both the developers likely know how the feature that the other person did works due to code reviews, but for any larger scale company, you probably won't even know how the feature coded by the person sitting beside you works, at most you'll just know in general what they're working on.

< Message edited by WhiteTiger -- 6/26/2016 20:53:52 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 30
6/27/2016 16:05:58   
  Battle Elf
has ten 1v1 wins


 Hey everyone,

I see there's a lot of confusion in this thread, which is understandable. I'm here (with A LOT of help from Titan) to help clear things up.

Providing that there is currently an active regional war and at least one of your faction members has participated in the war during that day, daily alignment wins are awarded to the side currently leading in the regional war. The bar at the top of the screen can be used to tell which side is currently winning.

Exile can earn the most influence during a day, and not receive an alignment win if Legion is currently winning the war.

Some other clarifications:
  • World Dominations are given to the Legion and Exile faction that earns the most influence in one day, faction alignment wins are given based on whatever side is in the lead.
  • War Hero achievement is given to one player from each alignment that earned the most influence in one day.
  • The points earned from a war objective are added to Character Total Influence and Faction Influence

    Complicated, I know. I'm going to leave this thread unlocked for any further questions.

    Thanks,
    Battle Elf
    AE Forum Moderator
    • AQW Epic  Post #: 31
    6/27/2016 16:17:11   
    8x
    Member

    quote:

    Exile can earn the most influence during a day, and not receive an alignment win if Legion is currently winning the war.

    In this example, would Legion get the win or would nobody get the win?

    I ask this, because the OP says his faction didn't receive any wins, but people are saying that the Legion was in the lead for the first few days of the war. I'd find it hard to believe that none of OPs faction members participated in the war during those few days (since the faction is new).

    < Message edited by 8x -- 6/27/2016 16:27:16 >
    Epic  Post #: 32
    6/27/2016 17:05:31   
    Lord Machaar
    Member

    quote:

    Providing that there is currently an active regional war and at least one of your faction members has participated in the war during that day, daily alignment wins are awarded to the side currently leading in the regional war. The bar at the top of the screen can be used to tell which side is currently winning.

    Exile can earn the most influence during a day, and not receive an alignment win if Legion is currently winning the war.

    So we conclude we are in front of visual bugs or something? Since all the criteria mentioned are met by many Legion factions this war, and many haven't been handed their hard earned wins.

    Either ways, this system is kinda complicated and useless IMO, it should be deleted and replaced with something more logical...
    MQ Epic  Post #: 33
    6/27/2016 17:52:51   
    Optimise
    Member

    		I finished writing this post to then find the thread locked; just posting this now as the thread is now unlocked: @WhiteTiger - Thank you for your honest and detailed response. I understand that we need to figure out how the system works before deeming it broken, but my point is or was there is not much to test based on the information we have; before we figure out how it works we need more information about it in advance. I too had a look through previous design notes beforehand and was unable to find anything in relation to Legion/Exile wins. I am totally fine with you running tests but it will eventually prove to be futile and fruitless due to the lack of basis, we cannot test something without solid and credible information to build our method on.

    I am aware of your connection with 8x for both being wiki staff; there is no questioning your methodology nor am criticising you but rather the system itself. I did not question how you ran the test but rather why you ran the test, and thanks for clarifying that for me. He was indeed questioning my knowledge, doing so indirectly. I am not going to address the same thing again but you could read my response to him:

    quote:

    8x:

    I suppose I can tell you how exactly the test was carried out since it's no big secret and anyone with a bit of knowledge of the past and current war systems would have carried it out the same exact way.
    I replied saying the following:
    quote:

    Optimise:

    I find it quite insulting and ironic at the same time that you are indirectly and slyly questioning my intelligence about EpicDuel rather than just addressing my post/concern. Do not try to dismiss it by saying it was not aimed towards me, because it clearly was; I was the one who asked the question, and you are relatively saying those who are questioning the testing methods are not knowledgeable of EpicDuel and it's previous and current war systems.

    Why do I find it insulting? I would say I am very knowledgeable about EpicDuel and also somewhat of AE as a whole as well; therefore I find your saying of me not being knowledgeable very disrespectful because you do not know me too well; if you wish to have a friendly or even unfriendly chat with me about my past then feel free to PM me because this isn't the place to talk about my past nor my knowledge of EpicDuel. Why do I find it ironic? I or we (as in the others excluding yourself and WhiteTiger) were required to explain the current war system to you and possibly WhiteTiger too and yet here you are questioning my knowledge instead.

    ...
    Nevertheless, I would ask you to not feel reluctant to respond to concerns such as this after what I have said in my previous post, as it mostly derived in response to 8x's post where he was being persistent on the mantra of testing being able to solve this situation. I appreciate and respect your and 8x's contribution and attempt to solve this, please continue to do so along with other issues to come in the future. Thanks again for keeping us occupied whilst trying to solve the issue rather than leaving us hanging.

    You are a staff member in the end and word from staff are usually regarded as official (you can take the recent war prize debacle as a prime example) unless stated otherwise and not vice versa. You sorta make it sound like features like this are classified information; if so, then such information will and should not be disclosed to us. I also fully understand that not everyone in the team is aware of every feature being coded (etc.), not even the developers can remember everything off the top of their head and that is precisely why I was solely asking for their response so they could check the data/code-base for an answer to this query as testers (or other staff members) with all due respect are unable to answer something like this even if they attempt to test the feature on development servers.

    Now that we are on page 2 of this thread you can see we are somewhat back to square one, and it would have been much easier if the developers looked it up instead rather than making you going through tests (although you probably would have done them either way) and us make these posts pointlessly squabbling over something that isn't going to be answered until the developers decide to step in. You could be generous enough to say that we've even made slight progress with this case. This brings us back to my main point; it would be pointless to run tests for reasons mentioned above including my previous posts and nothing will end until the developers respond because it'd be fair to say no one knows how this feature works. In the end not much has been accomplished.

    On a side note, to the both of you (WhiteTiger and 8x); do accept my sincerest apologies if any of my comments offended you in any form as it was not my intention to harm anyone but was merely trying to contribute positively towards the situation.
    Now onto address the response we've received from Battle Elf. From what I can understand the alignment that has the lead in the war (indicated by the war bar) at the end of the day are given the win; whether your faction receives the win depend on if you had atleast one member active in your faction, if not then your faction will not receive the win.

    The system currently in place for alignment wins are somewhat illogical and unfair as the lead by one alignment is carried onto the next day after reset which means the opposition will be at a disadvantage the next day to begin with; war rallies will not suffice as an excuse for this. Nonetheless, this bug report has yet to be solved where Legion were in lead of this war for the first few days and factions (screenshots linked in previous posts and OP) such as Astaroth, TDE, etc... have not received legion wins whereas some others have; and yes, the factions I mentioned to have not received legion wins had and still have active members contributing to the war everyday.

    < Message edited by Optimise -- 6/28/2016 9:34:59 >
    Post #: 34
    6/28/2016 13:08:13   
    8x
    Member

    		I had a feeling that the thread was locked too soon and you had more to say. lol

    quote:

    This brings us back to my main point; it would be pointless to run tests for reasons mentioned above including my previous posts and nothing will end until the developers respond because it'd be fair to say no one knows how this feature works. In the end not much has been accomplished.

    Trying to figure out how this works and running tests was fun. You talking about pointlessness and such things, takes the fun away. I honestly never cared about the actual bug.

    @Battle Elf
    quote:

    The system currently in place for alignment wins are somewhat illogical and unfair as the lead by one alignment is carried onto the next day after reset which means the opposition will be at a disadvantage the next day to begin with; war rallies will not suffice as an excuse for this.

    Agreed. I think it would be more fair if the alignment still had to get the most influence in the day.
    Examples:
    1. Legion is winning the war, Exile got the most influence during the day, nobody gets a win..
    2. Legion is winning the war, Legion got the most influence during the day, Legion gets the win.
    Epic  Post #: 35
    6/28/2016 13:45:41   
    Optimise
    Member

    		@8x - Yeah. I finished writing it then tried posting where the forums then told me I don't have permission to post because the thread has been locked; was also planning on writing more but I guess that's enough for now. It was certainly fun having this discussion although it was said to be pointless and whatnot; in the end the whole experience turned out to be rather fun. ;)

    The first example you gave; Legion will get the "Legion Win" because they are leading the war as indicated by the war bar at reset. This system as explained (well that's what I understood anyways) is not directly affected by the total influence earned in the day for each alignment.

    Example; lets say Legion are leading by 200K and (legion) factions drop a few bombs to just meet the criteria, the difference between Exile and Legion is now 220K; meaning Legion got a total of only 20K influence today. Exile then get 219K influence in total to near in on Legion but fail to take lead, which as a result leaves Legion with the lead at reset; meaning Legion will get the win regardless of Exile having more influence today.

    Your second example is correct though. And yeah, this system is quite unfair due to reasons mentioned earlier. The description should also be changed of this feature as it states the following: The number of times the faction contributed toward a daily victory for their alignment - not much of a "daily" victory if the lead is carried on from the day before. The old system is better where it was awarded based on daily total influence (with the in-game charts outlining which alignment has the lead) instead of this illogical procedure.

    < Message edited by Optimise -- 6/28/2016 15:58:28 >
    Post #: 36
    6/29/2016 12:42:41   
    8x
    Member

    quote:

    The first example you gave; Legion will get the "Legion Win" because they are leading the war as indicated by the war bar at reset. This system as explained (well that's what I understood anyways) is not directly affected by the total influence earned in the day for each alignment.

    Yeah, I know. I was just saying that I thought it would be more fair that way. I used examples to help me explain how I think the system should work.

    After thinking about it some more, I think they should just get rid of the system and convert Exile/Legion wins to influence. I'm sure that factions wouldn't mind losing pointless alignment wins in exchange for an influence boost.

    Epic  Post #: 37
    6/29/2016 15:51:25   
    Optimise
    Member

    		@8x - I understood what you meant after giving it another read yesterday but didn't bother editing my post again because your post can be interpreted either way so I just left my post as is; it may also serve as an explanation for others. Removing the Legion/Exile wins to then compensate us with influence (small amount of influence for each win) doesn't sound too bad, but then again we may have to take into consideration which option will take more time or cause any sort of issues; remove the feature and reimburse with influence or convert the feature back to its original function that being the total influence earned by an alignment for the day.

    If they decide to keep and make changes to it, then I would suggest that it doesn't become contingent on the war lead as it is now and rather becomes more total influence dependent. I am fine with either option but removing the feature sounds more feasible and reasonable. The reasoning being is, wins are somewhat pointless and serve no real purpose other than being the representation of how many wins have been obtained on the now-revealed quite broken and illogical feature. I think there is evidently a bug where factions are not being given Legion/Exile wins despite meeting the necessary criteria as this thread has been inferring ever since its creation, still awaiting a response on this from them.

    < Message edited by Optimise -- 6/29/2016 15:52:52 >
    Post #: 38
    6/29/2016 17:57:38   
    shadow.bane
    Member

    		@white tiger as I stated above my faction aka Astaroth has been created 3 days before infernal mines war and at the same time another faction called Legion Of Destruction has been made also and we both contributed a lot into the war board which they were first in infernal mines and mine was second and in this overlord war they are 4th mine 5th which I do not understand my faction been doing a lot of damage too so how come Legion Of Destruction have 2 - 3 legion wins and mine still on 0 ? and yeah there is a faction also called Unbeatable legends which was created a week before overlord facility war which have 2 legion wins atm and @lord machaar I recall ur faction before overlord facility war having 11 legion wins which u got 2 wins the first 2 - 3 days of the war. if I find any screenshot ill be more than happy to display it but if I didn't then ehh... please look into it battle elf and tell me the results.

    Edit : so my faction and every other legion faction should at least get 5 legion wins cause the last 2 days of infernal war which me and @lord machaar and other legionnaires can confirm we were leading alongside with the first 3 - 4 days of the overlord facility war as machaar said which gave war rallies to exile. so why does my faction's legion wins still at 0 ? and if it will be fixed then when it will be ?

    This faction called Bandits was created before overlord facility war Bandits

    This faction called Legion Of Destruction was created before infernal mines war Legion Of Destruction

    This faction called B R A Z I L was created before infernal mines war B R A Z I L

    This faction called Unbeatable Legends was created before overlord facility war Unbeatable Legends

    And this is my faction which was created few days before infernal mines war Astaroth

    Edit 2 (added) This faction called The Purge was created few days before overlord facility war The Purge

    Fix this up please ....



    < Message edited by shadow.bane -- 6/30/2016 9:14:28 >
    AQW Epic  Post #: 39
    6/29/2016 20:36:52   
    Optimise
    Member

    		@shadow.bane - I would encourage one to not add further to the confusion surrounding this issue, because we are already on our 40th post of this thread and I am sure our PR liaisons had enough to read making them already cognizant of this bug; let's not add to the confusion by throwing around faction names and supposed facts about other factions of which you aren't aware. I am sure the developers will be able to identify and fix all the factions affected once they have diagnosed this peculiar bug.

    However since you have insisted on posting several screenshots and some misinformation as well; allow me to correct the sentence where you mentioned my faction. I understand it was directed towards Lord Machaar but seeing as I am in the same faction I too have the right to address your concern about The Dead End. If you have read through this entire thread then you would have noticed Lord Machaar linking an image of our faction from the 12th of June; before this war started where we had 13 Legion Wins. Nonetheless I shall provide some information below, please do read it carefully. ;)

    quote:

    shadow.bane:

    @lord machaar I recall ur faction before overlord facility war having 11 legion wins which u got 2 wins the first 2 - 3 days of the war.

    This screenshot was taken on the 12th of June 2016 before the Overlord Facility war began, I assumed you may find it hard to trust my screenshot as to whether it was really taken before the war and for that reason I went through the effort of getting the source information of the screenshot such as the date taken and whatnot on the right hand side. This here is a screenshot of our faction, taken today.

    If it's not enough proof to establish the difference, then allow me to enlighten you. From hereon I will refer to the screenshot from 12th of June as SS1, and the one taken today as SS2. Now onto explaining; on SS1 I have 51,538 influence and on SS2 I have 56,500. With simple maths, you will subtract 51,538 from 56,500 which then equals to 4962 influence contributed in this Overlord Facility War. For further clarification, this is a screenshot taken just now showing the amount of influence earned this war which is 4962 as the difference shown between SS1 and SS2. What does this prove? This proves SS1 was taken on the 12th of June 2016.

    I have taken the effort to contact Lord Machaar to show his side of the influence to further clarify that SS1 was indeed taken on the 12th of June. In SS1 he has an influence of 442,036, whereas in SS2 he has 509,915. Subtraction; 509,915 - 442,036 = 67,879 is the amount of influence done in this war; Overlord Facility. Here are two screenshots showing proof of his influence: 1 (provided by him) and 2 (taken by me).

    I hope the above has clarified the questioning of my faction as to whether or not we had 13 Legion Wins before this war had started, if you have further questions feel free to PM me. As for the issue at hand I am sure they will be able to pinpoint all the factions that were affected and subsequently restore the missing wins once the bug is identified. That being said it would be best that we avoid cluttering this thread with more links to images because we've provided enough evidence of this bug in our previous posts, especially the previous page. ;)

    < Message edited by Optimise -- 6/29/2016 20:59:23 >
    Post #: 40
    6/29/2016 21:02:45   
    shadow.bane
    Member

    		^ It's not questioning ur faction and the legitimacy of what machaar said cause I only red battle elf's post regard what titan said sorry if I misunderstood or anything cause I did not see the screenshots that machaar posted.
    So now we have 2 faction that should have gotten at least 5 legion wins those 2 wars which got nothing and therefore they got to fix this issue fast.
    AQW Epic  Post #: 41
    6/29/2016 23:12:31   
    Optimise
    Member

    		@shadow.bane - One would assume you would read through the thread in it's entirety (to understand the situation and context) rather than basing your reply on one post but even so, either way you mentioned my faction name and I am totally fine with that if only you had provided correct information. You say you only read Battle Elf's yet your post was aimed at WhiteTiger; contradictory to what you're saying now. I am just saying contradictions and misinformation will make things worse here resulting in slower handling of the case (contrary to what you are seeking) due to the effort needed to read, understand, and filter the overwhelming amount posts providing information about this issue.

    Although some do not like hearing things being pointlessness because it takes away the fun in such things, I am required to say it again; it is pointless to add more information (misinformation at worst) to this case as we have already provided conclusive and decisive evidence establishing that we're dealing with an inconsistency here. There is usually no harm in providing more screenshots and the sorts but I think we have provided enough for this bug to be identified and dealt with.

    This isn't an all too urgent bug that needs to quickly fixed because frankly speaking it really isn't affecting the games well-being too much nor is it game-breaking. There is simply no need to rush, it is not a matter of urgency as you exaggeratedly describe it to be. One of the reasons why I say listing or repeating more faction names will aggravate the situation is because we have already provided evidence required to conduct an appropriate examination as to whether or not this report is false, and there may be more factions affected by this and listing only specific names will do no good in the end as all affected factions will most likely get wins restored accordingly without us having to name them one by one. ;)

    < Message edited by Optimise -- 6/29/2016 23:15:20 >
    Post #: 42
    6/30/2016 1:37:20   
    shadow.bane
    Member

    		^ let me just be clear here for you !
    I red few posts till I red battle's post and got what I need and my deal with her in pm. so u wouldn't understand my post here is just some profs I gave to her of course I could give in pm but I rather 8x and whitetigeralong with you to see cause I saw how u been active to the post, so refereeing to what you are sayin is don't worry I understand enough and I got what I need and thank you all for the post ... and I do not understand how this will make fixing it slower lol ? o.O it's profs to make them go fast as I will work my way to it thru pms with battle el.
    AQW Epic  Post #: 43
    6/30/2016 13:05:12   
    8x
    Member

    		^Here's how this is making the fixing slower (mine post included): Each unnecessary wall of text they have to read, or screenshot that they have to look at, wastes their time. At one point they might decide to start skipping posts and actually miss some important information. (this is just an example)

    When you said "it's profs", I assume you meant that your images are proof? I'm sure that the devs can check when factions were created and they can also check which factions don't have enough alignment wins. They have the resources to compile a complete list of "bugged" factions. They should be able to check back for months and even if the fix takes them a long time, they should be able to give everyone all their missing wins (if they feel that it is needed).

    < Message edited by 8x -- 6/30/2016 13:06:07 >
    Epic  Post #: 44
    7/3/2016 0:41:34   
    shadow.bane
    Member

    		Today's Alignment victory goes to legion War scores with leagion leading

    My faction Astaroth NO LEGION WIN still at 0
    AQW Epic  Post #: 45
    7/3/2016 7:02:12   
    nowras
    Member

    		Yea, there's 100% a bug there. Also, there's another bug where you sometimes get more influence than your faction while you're the only one playing and you're in this faction since reset (or before). These bugs must be fixed.
    AQW Epic  Post #: 46
    7/12/2016 7:20:35   
    shadow.bane
    Member

    		ummm nothing on this bug or whatever this thing is yet ?
    AQW Epic  Post #: 47
    7/26/2016 16:26:15   
    xNodi
    Member
     

    		 Our faction been active everyday since war started and as all know that legion owning in influence everyday since the start and no legion wins to my faction yet, proof : SS of faction
    Epic  Post #: 48
    8/23/2016 8:32:31   
    shadow.bane
    Member

    		this still didn't get fixed yet ....
    AQW Epic  Post #: 49
    8/23/2016 11:25:03   
      Battle Elf
    has ten 1v1 wins


    		 Tagged as pending
    AQW Epic  Post #: 50
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