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7/26/2020 3:45:20   
HORRIOR
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Nothing like completing a quest with tons of mob battles, a tough boss, cutscenes that last forever, and then the game crashes upon quest completion.


You'd think crashing like this would be fixed by now?
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 26
7/26/2020 4:28:31   
Roxas45
Member

I didnt personally have any issues with the fight.
Using the DeathKnight Class and Primal Dragon pet made it kinda easy to do?
I'm assuming it would be easier with classes like the Soulweaver style ones, where multiple hits happen per attack?

I just defended at the beginning of the battle, and used attacks that dont require me to hit them (Healing return, Break will, the standard Necrotic presence and all)
Once the shield was down, stun it, rend, your two finals, and then Reap.
When your stun is over, use your healing skill (The one that steals per turn), and keep hammering it.
Done.

All in all, a very enjoyable release that didnt have me biting the inside of my mouth regarding a very nuanced and complex strategy.
Loving it.


Anyone else actually worried about Jaania and Seppy? Like... About their health and all.
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 27
7/26/2020 5:00:25   
Azamoth
Member

Personally, I liked this quest since it brought some challenge into it, something different that makes this quest unique. I mean, you have at least a week to figure it out until the next release... You can take your time with it.

Riftwalker works really good with the boss and with this quest in general, just like with the doom dragon amulet and the ones you have to break the defense with a number of hits.
CW, SW and Ascended chickencow also works really well.
It becomes very easy once you find the right element to attack with.

I'd like to thank you for the release(s), these keep me hooked on to the game.
DF MQ AQW  Post #: 28
7/26/2020 5:19:30   
GLaDOS
Member

I was getting ready to get my ass kicked by the finale's boss, as is usually the case in such releases, but with the Technomancer class it was so trivial that I only lost a few hundred HP before stunlocking the boss and beating him on the first try.
DF  Post #: 29
7/26/2020 5:31:31   
Dratomos
Helpful!


Excellent release, a bit more challenging boss that was doable and very nice rewards.

spoiler:

The plot is again moving to places I didn't expect. Jimmy the Eye is watching Seppy and Lyn? Oh boy. And we are going back to Doomwood?

Also, Roirr's assault is happening currently, so...
DF AQW  Post #: 30
7/26/2020 5:48:10   
Primate Murder
Member

quote:

spoiler:

Also, Roirr's assault is happening currently, so...


I've seen this speculated a lot, but... Do we actually have any evidence for this?
AQ DF  Post #: 31
7/26/2020 7:07:22   
RobynJoanne
Member
 

@above
We know that there's a disturbance in the same area that Roirr attacked, and Bolemira just returned to the Magesterium, which would give him the opportunity to later possess her. Most obviously, the Book 3 timeline shows the Greenguard Alliance events happening concurrently with the First Weaver Saga.
Post #: 32
7/26/2020 9:11:30   
Dratomos
Helpful!


quote:

I've seen this speculated a lot, but... Do we actually have any evidence for this?


spoiler:

As Bolemira herself stated in Spells We Weave:

Bolemira: It appears that Volkenraand has launched an assault of forbidden magicks against the Shapeless Empire.
Bolemira: A true attack. The largest in centuries.
Bolemira: Now is the perfect time for me to perhaps... ensure that certain safeguards are not in place.

And during Roirr saga, there was no mention that Volkenraand would've attacked at the same time. Magesterium doesn't know what is attacking them so they presumed it would be Volkenraand. And Roirr used Forbidden Magicks a lot.
DF AQW  Post #: 33
7/26/2020 10:35:38   
Divine Nexus
Member

@Kyros123

spoiler:

Thanks for elaborating on all of that, it seems there was a lot that I was unaware of . I wonder if this possible connection may elaborated upon when dealing more Exalted related creatures, assuming that those are indeed what are coming out of the rifts.


< Message edited by Divine Nexus -- 7/26/2020 10:36:05 >
DF AQW  Post #: 34
7/26/2020 12:05:22   
anime_rpg
Member

Once again, great release.

Hmm, I must have been lucky, I was already using a multi-hit class (and a strong class, Doom Epoch so not too fair to compare). I opened up the stats, saw weak to Darkness so switched elements, saw 99 turns of avoid so started using multi hits, because 99 turns ... and got the pop up where even though I missed it said it was weakening due to Darkness. From other posts it looks like it changes what weakens the avoidance, so I am guessing it changes between Water and Darkness?

Also I forgot to summon my dragon, so it looks like the quest does it for you, which makes sense canonically.

spoiler:


Even though my character didn't understand I think I do, very interesting "speaking" thoughts. I got so excited at this as was thinking we and our dragons could learn so much once we had rescued them, find out about the Tytans, find out about the other side of the portals, etc. and hopefully both us and our dragons get a lot stronger. Unfortunately we were spat out first. Hopefully though this will make the future Tytans easier (at least canonically on how to deal with them), get inside them, unchain them and get them to return. Hopefully we can learn more and power up from the future Tytans. Who knows, we may even have powered up from just our experience with this Tytan or the orb.

Hmm, why did they only bring the rift back under Magesterium control, why didn't they close it entirely? Also, why does no-one seem to mind? Edit: Trying out this week's release I happened to pick "The Golden Hand" to test out Guardian, and got reminded that they said they couldn't close the portals themselves.

I can see both sides. Sometimes leaders do stay behind to govern the rest of the region, to coordinate, etc. but sometimes leaders do lead the assault themselves, that way they are there and can make decisions, they aren't asking their followers to do what they aren't doing, etc. Though in this case I think it does make sense for her to stay behind as King Alteon has still not returned and so everyone (apart from us and Kaara) will be somewhat worried.

Yay, Lynn .

Oh good, I was worried that Akanthus had overpowered and captured Sepulchure. Yes, he overpowered and hurt him, but at least he didn't beat him. Still, that is going to be difficult when we step in, again hopefully we power up through the Tytans.

Hmm, Jimmy is watching.


< Message edited by anime_rpg -- 8/2/2020 14:53:54 >
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 35
7/26/2020 12:57:16   
  Verlyrus
DragonFable Boxcat


quote:

You'd think crashing like this would be fixed by now?

Did you get any specific error? Most of the time this is due to connection or firewall issues, and isn't on our end, especially considering yours is the only report I've heard of regarding this.
AQ MQ  Post #: 36
7/26/2020 21:35:26   
DioHasZero
Member

Unfortunately I'm having a bit of trouble my first go at the boss, pretty sure it wants me to use the Water element but my Doomed Elemental Scythe is too small to select Water or Darkness on (I zoomed in as close as I could but clicking it won't change it, the other elements are fine), maybe because they're on the edges of the wheel and they clip with my character? That's the only water weapon I have, tried going through a bunch of other elements (darkness included) but it wasn't ever the right one.
Bad luck I guess, lol.

Might have to let it kill me or start the quest over from the beginning to get my weapon on water and stay there... that's a me-problem! Looks amazing so far, excited to beat it and see where the story goes!
[Update] Let it kill me and ran back over, started weak to Darkness so I was good to get it to about half health, then it regened its shield to Water. Guess I gotta start from scratch and make my Scythe water, and keep it there! The anticipation is building!!!
[Update 2] Victory!
spoiler:

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!! I love DragonFable more than I can express with words. Amazing work, it looked gorgeous, it was just the right amount of funny and serious, and it was lots of fun! Part of me hopes that Jaania can be helped and we'll team up one day to stop the definitely not-a-good-guy Akanthus for whatever he's planning. Honestly, I hope Sepulchure will be alright too, and I'm curious about where it's going with him now being tied in with Warlic, Xan, and Cysero... AWESOME WORK THANK YOU!


< Message edited by DioHasZero -- 7/26/2020 22:25:56 >
DF  Post #: 37
7/27/2020 16:42:38   
HORRIOR
Member

quote:

Did you get any specific error? Most of the time this is due to connection or firewall issues, and isn't on our end, especially considering yours is the only report I've heard of regarding this.


No it just got stuck on the loading screen right before reward window. Everything else worked just fine and once I tried it again it worked.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 38
7/27/2020 18:06:02   
scifijimmy
Member
 

Well I can confirm that the Technomancer also works in the boss battle with appropriate element.

Its interesting that in the aftermath to do a count of the other rifts, but aren't they forgetting one? Wasn't there one in the Deadlands or are we not worried about it since its outside Greenguard?

The bit with Kara/Jaania reminds me of the beginning of Frozen somehow.
AQ DF  Post #: 39
7/27/2020 18:24:49   
  Verlyrus
DragonFable Boxcat


quote:

Its interesting that in the aftermath to do a count of the other rifts, but aren't they forgetting one? Wasn't there one in the Deadlands or are we not worried about it since its outside Greenguard?

Oops. The Deadlands update will be added next week when Dove gets back.
AQ MQ  Post #: 40
7/28/2020 5:15:37   
RKC
Member

How do you beat the boss?
AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 41
7/28/2020 6:27:16   
RageSoul
Member

^ Attack it with 8 hits with either Water (for "Overwhelming Heat" in status ) or Darkness (for "Overwhelming Light" in status ) to remove that massive MPM count - missed hits count in removing it.
AQW Epic  Post #: 42
7/28/2020 14:16:55   
AstralCodex
Member

Dragon attacks also count - so Outrage + Primal with the right element lets your dragon break the Star's shield solo.
DF  Post #: 43
7/30/2020 5:01:02   
AztecFighter
Member

I'm waiting for another war, i missed out on many.
DF Epic  Post #: 44
7/31/2020 8:45:40   
anime_rpg
Member

There may be another war for the Rifts, maybe we even have one war for all the remaining Rifts, but they may not as it may more just be a, right we know what to do, let's do it, type thing, so more questline based to finish off The Greenguard Alliance questline. There may be one for Mogloween but almost definitely one just after Mogloween.

Edit: Testing out the changes to Guardian I happened to choose The Golden Hand quest as I was there checking out the new artwork, and that reminded me they said they couldn't close the portals themselves. I have also edited my original post.

< Message edited by anime_rpg -- 8/2/2020 14:55:19 >
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