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Lord GaGa -> NPCs (2/2/2011 1:02:09)

I personly think that NPC's shouldnt be showed in a person win record because you always win. Its kinda cheating an ingame feature without cheating. I know alot of npcers are gonna spam this thread with cussing... But this is just my personal opinion. (Sorry buffy [;)])



Mr.Pablo Jr. -> RE: NPCs (2/2/2011 1:24:40)

NPCs are there so we don't always have to lose like you. I have heard you put down many people with good records like Dax and Deathknightmare just because they NPC. You can't make it onto the All-Times with just NPCing unless you do a massive amount of NPCs. You shouldn't be so thick-headed when saying people NPC, they do actual battles too. A good record consists smart playing and NPCs, its part of the game. Now before you continue with this post, I think you should realize this is gunna get flamed massively. And if you accuse me of NPCing, I don't denie it, what I do denie is that I mostly NPC. That's an assumption because you have never seen me in battle or because I usually have the highest % on leaderboards, but that does not mean I only NPC. I remember when I had 145 wins and 97.4% and I've only been on for 4 hours, you told me the only reason for the 97.4% was because all I do is NPC. Next time you say something, use your brain or shut your trap because no one needs people like you telling us how to play the game.



Lectrix -> RE: NPCs (2/2/2011 1:28:46)

What else are Tech mages supposed to do? Walk around the Map or get pwned in 1v1 by Bounty Hunters, and decimated in 2v2 by the insanely overpowered Mercs?



Lord GaGa -> RE: NPCs (2/2/2011 1:36:15)

canadian i never said that... i just said it doesnt show any skill
and lectrix maybe try get a better build?



Ashari -> RE: NPCs (2/2/2011 1:38:55)

The problem is that everyone's 1v1 battle record is already skewed by NPCs. I'm pretty sure Titan once said there was no way to go back and see which wins were from players and which were from NPCs. Changing it now will just mean that established players will all have inflated win percents while new players are going to be stuck with small ones.




Lord GaGa -> RE: NPCs (2/2/2011 1:43:06)

maybe they should establish this rule in Delta?



xxmirxx -> RE: NPCs (2/2/2011 1:52:49)

this was mention by fay beee she mention this first it was one of her first post



Lectrix -> RE: NPCs (2/2/2011 2:13:12)

@Lord GaGa: I'm a mostly non-Varium Tech Mage; all I have is Gamma Bot. Completely non-Varium Tech Mages are just... doomed. Even Varium Tech Mages are having many problems these days.



Lord GaGa -> RE: NPCs (2/2/2011 2:20:14)

Ille try to help if you want :)



TurkishIncubus -> RE: NPCs (2/2/2011 3:31:18)

With My Str BH , Biohazard make 2 crit and win me i got shoked o.O



Wraith -> RE: NPCs (2/2/2011 22:34:53)

Guys, even I, a level 29 Varium TM is having issues with 2vs2 and 1vs1, so NPC is the safe way to go. t least I have FrostBane waiting fro me and the next level.



Eclaircise -> RE: NPCs (2/11/2011 16:25:11)

quote:

The problem is that everyone's 1v1 battle record is already skewed by NPCs. I'm pretty sure Titan once said there was no way to go back and see which wins were from players and which were from NPCs. Changing it now will just mean that established players will all have inflated win percents while new players are going to be stuck with small ones.


then how does Titan and NW figure out how many times u fight the same player? [&:] u said urself titan cant see which we fight..NPC or other fighter



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: NPCs (2/11/2011 18:01:32)

actully you can still lose to NPC's Big tuna was major proof of that it was real lucky to take her down on your first shot



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: NPCs (2/11/2011 18:48:08)

100% NO.Then my loses would go way down.NPCs do take skill to try telling some with no skill if they can beat Big Tuna I gurantee they cant.Thats not fair at all.I fight NPCs alot most of my wins are from them.I like normal PvPing but I hate to keep running into lvl 32 varium beast so thats why I NPC.



Drianx -> RE: NPCs (2/11/2011 19:51:31)

I think it all comes down to enjoying the game. If people enjoy vs-ing NPCs, it is no problem really. It is a feature, not an exploit.

Let me give you an example: one of the most stupid players I've ever fought, aldo_somenumbers, got 2 crits and 2 deflects against me, and when I got a deflect he said I was lucky, my build fails etc. etc. . Now, as long as I have no Mute button, theoretically I prefer fighting NPCs than vs-ing idiot players. It has become more fun, because with the new NPC talk system, they have much more brain than quite a lot of human players.



charwelly -> RE: NPCs (2/11/2011 19:54:32)

npcs are as much of the game as you and i am...
npcs are there for thoughs who can't win so they can boost there win recrord



Polandor -> RE: NPCs (2/11/2011 20:40:41)

You can npc for xp and credit, or for achievement.

But they should not count in 1-1 wins.

perhaps a new npc stats for npc lovers.



Angels Holocaust -> RE: NPCs (2/11/2011 20:49:21)

This is probably the worst idead that I've ever heard, good lord what would possess a man to say such blasphemy. NPC's are needed in this game, with all this luck going around in the game it's no wonder why people choose to kill npcs.



goldslayer1 -> RE: NPCs (2/11/2011 21:43:28)

@angel
actualy not even NPC is safe when crits and block are broken
atleast not from valery she block me 3 times critted me twice. and deflect twice.
i lost 3 times in a row in this same way. its really pissing me off how its just about luck.
not to mention shadow arts is bugged.

EDIT:
u guys think NPC dont have shadow arts?



Ashari -> RE: NPCs (2/11/2011 22:30:27)

@Eclaircise: I was referring to NPC wins from the beginning of the game, such as Alpha and Beta. That's probably because they don't have every battle log since the start of the game.

That had nothing to do with the daily limit against a player or hourly limit on NPCs. The point is that if the system were changed to Lord GaGa's suggest, win percentage would still mean nothing since you would still have every Alpha and Beta player with overinflated win percentages thanks to past NPC wins.



PRIMAL ASSASSIN -> RE: NPCs (2/12/2011 10:49:05)

well what can i say this just proves 2 vs 2 players are more skilled than 1 vs 1 players



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: NPCs (2/12/2011 11:20:09)

@Primal Assain Not true.Not true at all.



PRIMAL ASSASSIN -> RE: NPCs (2/12/2011 11:25:45)

it basically is most players that always do 1 vs 1 fail at 2 vs 2 and u know why it's becuase 90% of their wins are from npcs



Deadly PoisoN -> RE: NPCs (2/12/2011 12:35:02)

PRIMAL ASSASIN,you are hilarious[:D]Has anyone ever told you how foolish you are?I was a f2p bounty up until lvl30 and my 1v1 wins were still much better than my 2v2 wins.I heard people talked about npc's.I tried a few of them and thought of it as a waste of time,after that my 1v1 win record was still much greater than losses.

In 2v2 WHERE LUCK REIGNS,there is where i fell short.I typed that part in bold in hopes that it might penetrate your thick skull.You actually think you're skillful?Iv'e seen you in game,you're one of those tank mercs that spam 5 focus if i'm not mistaken,i'm almost certain iv'e seen you.You are NOT SKILLFUL,you have a basic copy and paste build that is overpowered in 2v2.

All mercs with varium are either using a str build or that build as of now.Your wins will always exceed your losses if you play it safe and use those same overpowered builds that have been overpowered for quite some time now.

My 2v2 record was 1036 wins and 1080 losses as a free bounty in 2v2 and i use to do only 2v2.I'm not afraid to post that since my ratio is true skill,how i was able to still maintain a reasonable win ratio with minimal stats and mercs on the prowl.That's what's known as skill.What you're doing is what anyone else can do too.I showed fighting spirit,despite the support mercs ruining everything with their steel defense and high damaging aux+bunker or artillery.

Anyone can play it safe and use the currently overpowered build and have a big mouth.And just recently iv'e found that npc'ing can actually be efficient and i started taking advantage of that.There's nothing wrong with it and i'm not even going to address the OP i'm so so tired of the lack of intelligent people on here that responding to the OP might give me a headache.

But as i said,you can think you have skill all you want but you're just playing yourself.2v2 is luck based and mercs rule 2v2.We all know how easy playing a merc is,you aren't skillful PERIOD.




Digital X -> RE: NPCs (2/12/2011 14:39:42)

I think it should be shown still, because whether you fight an NPC or real human being, a win is still a win regardless if the battle is done by a computer or actual person. I will admit though, i have had my (rather large) share of NPC wins purely for levelling and credit purposes when i was level 29, had terrible equipment and could barely win a match vs a level 26!



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