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IsaiahtheMage -> Why do lvl 27s always become punch bags for lvl 32s? (2/5/2011 19:10:41)

Why?Like when your a lvl 26 you get a few lvl 31s and 30s here and there but most of the time it is people on your level or below once you hit lvl 27 BOOM instantly matched up with lvl 32s a million times in a row alot of people I see agree with this.Its just crazy when this happens and my advice to survive the lvl 27-30 against the lvl 32s with varium fight abouch of NPCs like me.There is Maruder Hulk,Mirv,Heavy Bio Guard,Bio Hazards,Bio Guard,heavy Mine Tower Guard and so on.Thats the best way.So please disucss what you think about this.And to my helpful tip Good luck.[:)]

EDIT:Please dont reply with "quit whing" or "stop complaing".Why should I have to deal with this horribly unfair feature in the game and not speak my thoughts on it?Why plz explain to me to the people say that.

I thought we already have a similar one, so let's just use in one area instead: A Comprehensive Balance Discussion. Thanks. :) ~AVA



orrthehunter -> RE: Why do lvl 27s always become punch bags for lvl 32s? (2/5/2011 19:12:32)

Well once lvl 27 you'll spend 70% of the time facing and being killed by lvl 32s due to their godly stats they obtained from their lvl 30 Monthly rare but you'll be given a decent chance once lvl 28 if you can get your hands on a good armor and some new weapons.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Why do lvl 27s always become punch bags for lvl 32s? (2/5/2011 19:14:46)

dude seriously everyone had to fight players 5 lvls above them at some point unless u were in the lead top lvl since alpha.
quit QQing and get use to it. i was forced to fight lvl 30s
and at times 2 lvl 30s in 2 vs 2



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: Why do lvl 27s always become punch bags for lvl 32s? (2/5/2011 19:18:41)

@Goldslayer Obviously you dont understand what I mean so their is no point to comment unless your going to ask about what I meanor already know.I have gotten use to to it and I am not crying I am speaking my thoughts about this unfair thing that happens instany once you reach level 27.I would expect you talk about this as if it happened to you but I assume it hasnt you mustve been a lucky player for this not to happen.Your point?You foguht lvl 30s?I fougt lvl 32s with varium who PWND me everytime.

EDIT:@Below you are probly right.It only makes sence because anyone who had reached lvl 27 should know what I am talking about.And not mark it as crying and complaing.



orrthehunter -> RE: Why do lvl 27s always become punch bags for lvl 32s? (2/5/2011 19:20:22)

^ he probably isn't lvl 27 yet since he did say the highest 5 level higher players he faced are lvl 30s.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Why do lvl 27s always become punch bags for lvl 32s? (2/5/2011 19:23:46)

isiah i use to play in beta back in the begining of the game with AE when literaly 90% of the players there were founders
at lvl 25 i always had to fight lvl 30 founders while being a non varium.
and if u played back then, founder armor was the most OP thing out there and it DID change the tides of battle.
i know what its like fighting higher lvls
thats why i kept on fighting to get out of that stage and get on the plain fighting field
if u cant do that, then then i dont see why ur complaining i mean its not like ur account was set to only ho upto lvl 27

also QQ doesn't always mean crying it also means whinning, and complaining

@above
im lvl 32
back when i was lvl 25 way back in beta over a year and 3 months ago
all i did was fight higher lvls
so yes i do know what its like.
im lvl 32 and i am in the faction called Control Alt Death
if u look at today 1 vs 1 daily faction we are on top.
and it takes alot to be in this faction many came and many left



EE -> RE: Why do lvl 27s always become punch bags for lvl 32s? (2/5/2011 19:25:58)

I think you already know the reason to your question. A lot of people have worked very hard to get to level 32, myself included. Back when I started, the level cap was 30, and a lot of level 25's were making the same complaints. Why is it so tough to beat 32's? Because they are five levels higher than you and have 20 more points to put into stats and 5 more points to put into skills. Varium or not, fighting 5 levels higher than yourself is not going to be a walk in the park. Weapons help boost stats, but remember they have base 20 more than you do to work with.

As for the sheer number of 32's, I'm sure you already know that answer to if you think about it. 32 is the current level cap and all those players who work so hard to get there are stuck at that level until the cap is raised. The number of 32's will only grow as time passes.

As for advice: NPC's are there for a reason. Challenge any and all NPC's within your level range, even if they are lower than you. Don't be afraid of going PvP either. If you feel like all you get is 32's, then I suggest making some friends at your skill level and challenging them. By no means does that mean you should bot, but you'll find the game much more enjoyable if you have friends within the game. Don't always feel that it's you vs the world, because you'll more than likely lose interest quickly.

And my final bit of advice: spending all your time on the message boards is time away from dueling. Get out there and join the struggle like every 32 has done and you will eventually join our ranks.



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: Why do lvl 27s always become punch bags for lvl 32s? (2/5/2011 19:27:16)

@Goldslayer Then why mark what I said as complaing?You can obvisouly see where I am coming from.My point thats why I just gave helpful hints into surviving lvls 27 -29.
@EE Good point I should do that now.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Why do lvl 27s always become punch bags for lvl 32s? (2/5/2011 19:28:56)

what EE said.
if u cant get out of that stage where ur 5 lvls below the cap then dont complain.
just keep on fighting until ur out of it.



orrthehunter -> RE: Why do lvl 27s always become punch bags for lvl 32s? (2/5/2011 19:28:58)

@EE I'm actually doing both message board and fighting in game but ya the best way to lvl in 27 is NPCs and once the 15 uses are up just PvP players though NPCs tend to take longer than players most of the time due to their insanely high HP.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Why do lvl 27s always become punch bags for lvl 32s? (2/5/2011 19:30:07)

@isai
because unlike u when i was lvl 25 i didn't complain about it. sure i got pissed off but i kept on fighting to get out of that stage and kept lvling up.
im sure anyone who is a smart pvper did the same thing.


also another thing
only 15 npcs an hour?
that is so unfair



EE -> RE: Why do lvl 27s always become punch bags for lvl 32s? (2/5/2011 19:34:25)

I honestly don't know what else you could do other than play the game to reach a higher level lol. Let's stop fighting on the message boards and meet on the battlefield, where there is experience to be had. I do stand my my advice of challenging players in the game. It is one of the most enjoyable ways of gaining experience that I have found.

At above: 15 is not as bad as you might think, given that they will have higher hp than players of the same level, so it will take more time to win. The time it takes to win and travel will make up for the lack of NPC's to fight.

At below: true, and I'm as excited as anyone to see these new quests come about.



orrthehunter -> RE: Why do lvl 27s always become punch bags for lvl 32s? (2/5/2011 19:35:37)

^ well there is the quest system coming soon and since they did hint the items will drop from both NPC and Players there is one extra thing to do.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Why do lvl 27s always become punch bags for lvl 32s? (2/5/2011 19:36:34)

@EE
thats one thing i use to do was go around the map challenging other players.
because of the AE merge there were heaps of players new to the game and trying to lvl up so it was better challenging others.
dude i kill npc in 30-40 seconds
and i have houses therefor allowing me to jump to near by NPC zones not to mention i saved my starting zone near an NPC. so all i have to do log in do npc 5 times. click map, go to fortune city, do that one 55 times, click map again and go to barren.
only takes me like 12 minutes total
15 npc isn't alot.



Xxbbooxx -> RE: Why do lvl 27s always become punch bags for lvl 32s? (2/5/2011 19:38:04)

you become the punch bag because everyone targets you since you dont have armour, and can kill quick so they can pile your partner.



EE -> RE: Why do lvl 27s always become punch bags for lvl 32s? (2/5/2011 19:48:04)

Above: Nice advice there, way to go. Way to keep the productive advice flowing *face palm*

As for NPC's to fight, there is Mirv, Bio Guard, the biohazards, Electro Hazard, Gamma Gaurd, Haevy Bio Guard, Heavy Mine Guard, Marauder Hulk, Shadow Guard, Valery and all of the NPC's that take tokens to challenge that are within the +-5 lvl skill range of a lvl 27 player.



PD -> RE: Why do lvl 27s always become punch bags for lvl 32s? (2/5/2011 20:14:40)

Why? Because At level 32, even if you were Non Varium, you'd still Out-Value them by 100-500 Stats. Stat Values are NOT Equal as Xendran and I have said so many times that we cannot even remember how much anymore.

They lose because they lose out by STATS and SKILLS Values



Luna_moonraider -> RE: Why do lvl 27s always become punch bags for lvl 32s? (2/5/2011 20:18:30)

idk if they apear as my partner in 2v2. they instantly be the target. well 5 lvl lower= big advantage for 32 that is why they are the punching bags imo.



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: Why do lvl 27s always become punch bags for lvl 32s? (2/5/2011 20:42:17)

@Xxxboxx Can you contribute something that isnt meant to be a joke to this thread?Actually I do have armor and I am mainly refering to 1 vs 1 so I have no partner.



Shocka -> RE: Why do lvl 27s always become punch bags for lvl 32s? (2/5/2011 21:07:32)

You shouldn't really complain too much. Back in the days when the cap was 30 25 vs 30 was way tougher. Believe me. Just NPC. Every single 32 you face had to go through the 5 levels of hell you are right now. Just envision you being the 32 soon.



BloodRainbow -> RE: Why do lvl 27s always become punch bags for lvl 32s? (2/6/2011 3:04:11)

well the reason it seems like thers such a huge difference between 25-26 fighting lvl 30-31s and a lvl 27 fighting 32s is because theres alot more lvl 32s than 30-31... and because a huge number of players would rather do 2v2 or fight npcs instead of facing a bunch of godly lvl 32s.

it is an epic pain in the butt and many many ppl have asked countless times for the devs do adjust it.... but nothing has been done, and nothing will probaly ever get done about it. you just have to find ur own way of copping with it



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