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Crossor -> Seasonal Rares are ruining the game for me? (2/9/2011 2:25:55)

So I have switched from Bounty to Merc and it's been fun and I was thinking of switching to Tech Mage next. Now as a BH and a merc I noticed I couldn't make a TON of builds and I was at a major disadvantage because I couldn't get certain seasonal rares, but as I look at Tech Mage I honestly don't even want to try them out just because not having seasonal rares for them will make me crazily underpowered. It's kind of sickening that I can't make certain builds or have the freedoms other players may have because i wasn't around for the "limited time" release of these items. So much so that honestly I feel like I should just quit and relog back on when more items are released or the seasonal items make a return so I can get some. What are your thoughts on this? I am sure everyone has looked at a spreadsheet and saw the perfect items and then went "to bad I can't get it and don't have it.". So what are your thoughts on this? I do have the founder armor and I can imagine a lot of people who didn't get it envy the armor as well which would effect almost all builds lol.



Deadly PoisoN -> RE: Seasonal Rares are ruining the game for me? (2/9/2011 3:00:41)

This is yet another topic my thread covered,it's funny how this game is operated.How can you make the items with the best stat modifications rare.Then it either never returns or you have to wait a year to get them again.Epicduel is discouraging me more and more.I finally payed for varium and oh boy,what a mistake.

Rare items for free players are even worse,try having only 2 weapon options available for you at lvl32 as a bounty.That's pretty much why i bought varium.Epicduel is ridiculously greedy and the game doesn't offer enough to justify such greed.I'm beginning to log in less and less too.The whole scare tactic thing that nightwraith did,where he says if you don't like don't play,well?It didn't work,people won't play and if injustice is how this game is suppose to work,then 1 thing remains.

I need to do something about this individually,something off of the AE website that will probably produce a response from the developers.I won't do anything illegal of course,but freedom of speech is allowed on the net,maybe not here but i have a plan,just hold on to your hats.This is not a bluff.



.Sir Lazarus. -> RE: Seasonal Rares are ruining the game for me? (2/9/2011 3:04:34)

Its not fair, its not fair, its not fair, its not fair..... Get over it, its life... -.-



Mr.Pablo Jr. -> RE: Seasonal Rares are ruining the game for me? (2/9/2011 3:17:16)

I'm a Gamma playing mage and I'm holding up pretty fine, 98% at 98 wins and only around 15 NPCs, you just have to outsmart the other person.



Deadly PoisoN -> RE: Seasonal Rares are ruining the game for me? (2/9/2011 3:24:06)

@pablo,is it just me or does epicduel affect individuals that play so that they can't make out what someone means[:D]Yeah,let's see your win ration in 2v2.That's where it's hard, 1v1 is a breeze ever since my varium purchase,it's 2v2 that's unfair.

@Lazarus.It's not smart it's not smart it's not smart,especially for a newish game that needs support by gaining new members.That's called SENSE.Get ov...Oh no wait,that was your post.I meant,LEARN it.



Silver Sky Magician -> RE: Seasonal Rares are ruining the game for me? (2/9/2011 3:37:45)

Actually shouldn't it make sense that the strongest weapons are seasonal? Why would anyone buy seasonal weapons if the strongest weapons are permanent? And as for inconveniencing class-changers, Nightwraith stated that he discourages people from changing class easily, especially if they do it just for wins. For those wanting to experiment with builds, you could always wait.



edwardvulture -> RE: Seasonal Rares are ruining the game for me? (2/9/2011 3:52:19)

Varium Oped rares sure do ruin the game for non variums. But seasonal rares and limited rares are more powerful and they should be because it is just another thing a commuted player cannot miss.



Drianx -> RE: Seasonal Rares are ruining the game for me? (2/9/2011 3:53:31)

@Crossor: the income strategy of ED is selling weapons mainly, because if you analyze the game as it is right now, there is not much else to sell. And since this is a fact, only desirable (=powerful) weapons would sell best. I am also in your boat but unfortunately I don't think there is much to do about it now. Maybe when the game will gain new dimensions, like quests, occupations and such, this income strategy will change.



Deadly PoisoN -> RE: Seasonal Rares are ruining the game for me? (2/9/2011 6:12:51)

@Silver sky magician,you're one of the rare few people that actually responded rationally to my post,i'll give you a pat on the back for that and also thank you.In epicduel i often feel like a rare breed when it comes to posting meaningfully or with common sense,you sir have given me new hope :)

Anyway,the concept of rares in this game is totally wrong.Like all my other posts,this is fairly long,just try to read through.I'll start by using adventure quest as an example,where rares are sought after because they often have a special ability.

Azrael's bane is probably more on par with what i would call ''fair'' when it comes to rares in epicduel.Not the power,but the concept.In adventure quest,everyone knows that arguably the best items in the game come out on christmas and go rare.Thy're normally available for a month or so and leave.

But the rest of the year strong items are continually released,to give players more options.In epicduel,rares aren't something fun to look out for,they are THE items to have.As in,if you missed them,you're at a huge disadvantage.What kind of message does that send to new players?

Then you either have to wait a year to have those same items,or they never return.I mean come on,nightwraith really needs to get himself in gear.You can't build a game by scamming or cheating,you need to build clients through service,do what makes people happy and expand the game in a GOOD way for once.



Silver Sky Magician -> RE: Seasonal Rares are ruining the game for me? (2/9/2011 7:00:40)

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Thanks for the compliment :)

I agree with you. Perhaps rares shouldn't be focused on increasing power and stat inflation, but special effects and other variations, like unique stat distribution. It's too early to tell now as although the game has joined AE for 1 year already, the recent release of Azrael's Bane could mark a turning point. Hopefully this will be the start of a great new era.



jegaggin -> RE: Seasonal Rares are ruining the game for me? (2/9/2011 8:32:49)

Me speaking as a varium merc ive actually seen most non varium support mercs killing me. Which may seem like i suck but i killed most varium support mercs. I dunno why they beat me XD. The rares give non varium people a fighting chance against varium mercs and i have to say i enjoy fights where there is a challenge and where I'm nervous if I win. Azarael Bane i have to say is basically a physical frostbane which i bought. I think it is worth it because I need physical damage in my build.
@ Silver magician what do you mean "The recent release of Azrael's Bane could mark a turning point. Hopefully this will be the start of a great new era. "?



Silver Sky Magician -> RE: Seasonal Rares are ruining the game for me? (2/9/2011 9:04:00)

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Azrael's Bane has a special effect, a 5% critical bonus. Maybe rares in the future won't be characterized by the necessity to buy them in order to stay competitive, but the unique special effects they have. At first these special effects will be limited to varium users, but gradually non-varium players will also get weapons with special effects, albeit weaker ones. It would be interesting to see what special effects can come out, especially if there are effects other than the predictable variables of critical, stun, deflection and block.

And I agree that rares should give non-varium players a strand of hope. Sure, they will have to adapt far more than varium players, but at least they can win. So currently I'm not too perturbed by the current system as holidays are pretty frequent, and with them rares. The only thing is that with each release of rares, the difference between varium and non-varium players increases. Moreover christmas is the only time class-specific non-varium rares are released, so it is in a way arguable that players have to wait for a specific period in a year to get items that can make them competitive.

Due to this new players will not be able to stay competitive, and will be forced to wait for a rare weapon release. Even then there might not be suitable weapons for them. Perhaps this is a reason why the more strategic part of EpicDuel only becomes very prominent at the higher levels.



jegaggin -> RE: Seasonal Rares are ruining the game for me? (2/9/2011 9:21:16)

silver from what i understand azrael's bane is 5% for only strikes (hits with ur sword)



Silver Sky Magician -> RE: Seasonal Rares are ruining the game for me? (2/9/2011 9:27:44)

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It is. But that's still a new feature that will hopefully pave the way for greater innovation in weapon variety.



helloguy -> RE: Seasonal Rares are ruining the game for me? (2/9/2011 9:44:27)

There are plenty of good seasOnal rares you could get right now for Mage. Azrael and energy Cupid bane is all you really need.



Crossor -> RE: Seasonal Rares are ruining the game for me? (2/9/2011 13:31:27)

The fact is no matter what I get "now" I will still be under par to the players who got the items I can no longer get. Also to the person that posted "98" wins that means absolutly nothing at all. This game isn't hard I didn't say I don't win a lot I said I feel underpar because I am to certain players not because of my skill but because of my equipment. Also if you have only 98 wins then you don't really have much room to comment because you havn't been playing very long.



Mr.Pablo Jr. -> RE: Seasonal Rares are ruining the game for me? (2/9/2011 16:27:42)

@Deadly Poison, My 2vs2 record sucks because I've only done 266 of those and that was when I was still Lv20ish.



Deadly PoisoN -> RE: Seasonal Rares are ruining the game for me? (2/9/2011 16:35:01)

@Pablo,my point exactly.2V2 is so messed up,that no matter how good you are or how much you outsmart someone else,the tide always swings wild.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Seasonal Rares are ruining the game for me? (2/9/2011 16:38:07)

i agree im still pretty pissed off at bunny zookas going full rare and not seasonal.
this is something that got me really mad. only because that game started sucking in beginning of 2010
i left and came back later to see how it was. turns out i liked it a bit. now we are upto date and the servers are crap and i cant get into a fight because i get disconnected.



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