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Billybunz -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/27/2011 17:45:41)

Oh sorry. I ment to say I abuse strenth. -.-'




Gabriel Dude -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/27/2011 18:05:55)

Lol but they have to nerf them as how they did iwth strength BH. Now we Bounty Hunters got tons of requirements for our skills. Why not puttin a good support requirements for either Stun,berzeker,or Hybrid armor




Gree -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/27/2011 18:16:41)

Well I have a 32 tech mage, and a 29 str merc with armor and beta gear. When I play my str merc i can be overpowered, but im not most of the time :P. I really fell like its the disparity is between the defense of BH's and Mages. BH's have smoke and DA to keep str mercs at bay, where technician and matrix just seem to delay the inevitable.

Mercs feel cheap when you get 2 turned, i know it's not often it all comes together for a str merc, but im able to beat 32 variums with the latest gear if i land my stun. But yes, i can also lose to 26 non vars if i get blocked constantly. When im on my mage and i get beat dow in 2 turns by people like Mamarilo and wiseman it just feels cheap, ive spent just as much money on my char as they have and i have no chance at all if things work out right for them. It doesnt really feel sporting.




od -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/27/2011 18:29:52)

The thing is that requerments on skills have 2 make sense
eg: overload req. You have to have some tec skills so u don't hit urself
venom strike: you gotta know how 2 use the poison, a caveman can't use poison




King FrostLich -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/27/2011 23:48:38)

Builds like these 100% fail to dex builds ranging up to 90+ dex.




tigura -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/27/2011 23:52:15)

If you are struggling with str mercs, get more hp. I find that 140 hp can be quite effective When used properly ;)




PhoenixGladiator -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/28/2011 0:01:51)

^ nice disclaimer lol




voidance -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/28/2011 3:07:38)

I think the best way to handle strength merc's is to make berserker still have a chance to block if they stun you.




PhoenixGladiator -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/28/2011 3:18:36)

I'm like 95% sure you can get blocked when your opponent is stunned.




voidance -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/28/2011 3:25:39)

Nope, nothing can be deflected or blocked and to top all that it does a little extra damage.




PhoenixGladiator -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/28/2011 3:46:52)

Donna Matrix just told me you can block while stunned...

I know about the defense reduction though.




voidance -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/28/2011 3:50:21)

I have never ever seen someone block or deflect a stun in my whole time playing and i got at the least 30,000 winnings between my accounts. So either she is wrong or i would love for you to show me a picture/video proving me wrong.




PhoenixGladiator -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/28/2011 3:56:06)

I can't recall it happening either to be honest. I've never seen it in writing though. Has it ever been officially stated?




voidance -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/28/2011 4:05:44)

Not that i know of but i know its impossible.




PhoenixGladiator -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/28/2011 4:07:56)

I would test it for you but I can't seem to stun a bounty.




voidance -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/28/2011 4:16:30)

If it was possible to block on a stunned player do you really think there would be so many stun/berserker merc's?




PhoenixGladiator -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/28/2011 4:18:39)

Well bhs aren't really the prime target of stun/zerk mercs seeing how they block 75% of the time.




voidance -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/28/2011 4:21:04)

Ik but if their hit doesnt block and they stun you, that 75% just droped to 0% on the next hit. And ile bet the next hit will be berserker which is the reason they do that type of build.




PhoenixGladiator -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/28/2011 4:31:32)

Dax confirmed. You cannot block while stunned.




voidance -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/28/2011 4:36:20)

Thx for confirming it, So yes making it where you can block on a stunned player would weed out some of these strength merc's and take away the OverPowered factor of this build.




mousedrag -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/28/2011 5:17:40)

Could anyone explain to me what a "Heal looping mage" is? I've never actually known what they were or bothered to figure out.
As for teh topic, Strength Abusing is actually a good strategy. o.o I've went from level 22 to 25 in like 3 hours from the build, it's like 96[+6 from the stat modifier] strength. o.o


@Luna

Mmkay thanks :D




Luna_moonraider -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/28/2011 6:21:26)

@mousedrag
bout heal looping
wat is heal looping hmm well it is a method a mage could use to make the battle extremely long yeah maybe 14 turn or maybe more and they have a very high win %. the only way to beat them was str bh and str mercs. cause str bh and mercs ends a battle fast enuf so they cant heal loop. typical heal loooper will start by malfing, then gun, heal, aux ,malf,gun,heal,aux,malf,gun,heal,aux,malf,gun,heal,aux,malf,gun,heal,aux until a person dies. note heal can equal to a booster and they rage too and thier rages are very painful. well the malf,gun,heal, aux cycle is for all classes. str bh kill them cause they out dmg them but it takes a long time to beat them. str mercs are dead if they get a single block yep 1 block a u lose against heal loopers. wat are thier build high hp(round 140 min for 1v1 for 2v2 they have round 120 hp),high support,and other stat balaced. just search heal loop in youtube and u will see what is a heal loop build and how it works. let me tell u it was not fun doing 1v1 at that time so most people did npc and 2v2. u do see heal looping mage in 2v2 but 1 of them is easy but 2 gl to u. even 2 support mercs cant beat them, look at the link below too see me and another support merc getting trashed by 2 heal loopers. i m so glad they are gone but they are still a few heal loopers here and there in 1v1 but not in 2v2 u never see them anymore.

http://i53.tinypic.com/260x0g3.jpg

now back to topic well str mercs kill if they dun get block with sa and bh smoke str mercs are doomed. unless they have intimidate and know when to use it when fighting a str bh with max sa.a assult bot also helps agains max sa str bh. not gonna tell how to use intimidate on bh cause it is really common sence. most mercs should know when u use a intimidate on a str bh. only mage get killed by str mercs if all the atk of str merc hit. that is y str build are op but still it is risky using a str build as a merc because mercs tend to ignore dex due to hybrid armor. lesser dex= more block= u die.




Evric -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/28/2011 6:31:03)

i remember when i was a heal looper
i had over 150-160hp :0




voidance -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/28/2011 6:41:35)

Heal loop is still somewhat possible, ive had a few fights where ive been able to Field medic 4-5 times. It does require health boosters though.




Larcell -> RE: Strength Abusing Noobs (2/28/2011 7:27:25)

The only remedy I see to stop STR abusers is a +5 focus merc with high intimidate.




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