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One Winged Angel1357 -> A bit much (3/20/2011 18:44:17)

Im sure you guys have noticed the Power Up Now button in-game after a loss and im just wondering is that a bit much.

Varium, we all know unless your a master build maker or have Varium its pretty hard to win. Also F2P's see varium everywhere in this game; fights, shops, even logging in now whenever you loss you see it. Its like they are trying to pigeon hole you into buying Varium like Varium will make it so you never lose again(which it wont)

And to me(year long standing F2P member by choice) it like the Devs are saying this game is becoming Pay to Play(well win) now more then ever.

This isnt a question about varium and please dont make the topic about it. Its a question of how far the Devs can advertize Varium before its forced upon you to buy varium before you can log in or something stupid about that.




Basicball -> RE: A bit much (3/20/2011 18:53:04)

i agree, especcially cosiddering the following PM's:
quote:

Dear Adam Artix Bohn

I am writing to you today to not only thank you for the years of my online gaming entertainment but to appeal to you about my concern.

As one of your more senior players, your games were the very first online games that I have played and are still my favourites.

Since the merger between Artix Entertainment and EpicDuel I have been a loyal fan of this game.
It was quite different and unique to your other quest style games and presented me with a nice challenge to figure out strategies and different types of builds. Also I was proud to be given the status of founder finally for one of your games as I had not become a member straight up for AQWorlds when I joined there in October 11th 2008.

I am writing to appeal to you to make EpicDuel similar to your other games in the respect of offering membership with varium included. Maybe this is not possible but I do wish to inform you that you are losing so many founders/betas due to the cost intensive and aggressive marketing. To be able to compete successfully it has become an issue to buy the latest weapons which has now included an enhancement with a cost of more varium.

To give you an idea how costly EpicDuel has become I can easily spend $50.00 in one month or in some cases in almost a fortnight. Whereas, AQWorlds gives me a whole year membership with 10,000 ac coins for $55.00. The coins that I spend in AQWorld are purely for my own pleasure and not simply because I “have to have” them to keep up with the game.

EpicDuel, unlike your other games offers no varium buy back either. So in effect if you sell a bought item (995-1500 varium) with which you have spent (upwards to 1400 varium) on enhancing you get nothing in return. Therefore you have just thrown $10 - $20 cash away. I have even mistakenly bought the same item twice with no opportunity to regain any of the cost.

I have spoken to many friends and players in the game and the main concern is how costly the game is.

It is purely for the love of EpicDuel that I would like to see some timely cost effective options put into place so EpicDuel can become truly one of the pleasurable games I have enjoyed with Artix Entertainment.

I thank you, in advance, :) for taking the time to listen.

Cheers
Your loyal fan Sharon aka Shadronica McPherson.

quote:

Ok I know that Buffy can definitely push our buttons lol but this time she has managed to get my message to Artix. Here it is and WOW!!

Hello... Buffy Here. :)

Nythera forwarded your message to Artix and he replied to my email address to You...Here is his response:

---

Sharon,

Thank you for your well worded and sincere email regarding epic duel. I am going
to meet with Titan to discuss your letter and make suggestions on how to better
balance the game.

Please know this that has been a constant challenge in all of our games... It is
a delicate tightrope to walk paying for the servers, staff and costs while
creating a fun, fair balanced game that all players can enjoy. I really
appreciate the way you handled this and we will do our very best to make
positive change because of it!

Battle on!
Artix

Sent from my iPad (<Artix iPad)



WOOT!!!
My heart feels lightened about the future of ED. Well lets see what Artix can do for us. ~Content~

I am so happy.




Angels Holocaust -> RE: A bit much (3/20/2011 18:55:40)

Wait, what power up button?




One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: A bit much (3/20/2011 18:57:51)

Angels quick stand there and loss and fight its right about continue or whatever it says to end the fight it leads you to a buy varium screen(im telling you this so you dont ruin that record of yours)




eragonshadeslayer67 -> RE: A bit much (3/20/2011 18:57:59)

@angels: the button on top of "continue" after you loose a fight [unless ur kidding :/]

I, for one, enjoy having varium, as I hate memberships that you have to renew, but the only problem from me is the crazy enhancement prices

I think the staff can just keep things like it is (REMOVE the power up now button, it's really going over the line) everything other ad is fine




Basicball -> RE: A bit much (3/20/2011 18:59:29)

like not having membership as well




Angels Holocaust -> RE: A bit much (3/20/2011 19:02:33)

WOW, I didn't even know that. Their advertisements are now considered to be spam. I gotta admit that's a little too much now.




One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: A bit much (3/20/2011 19:03:56)

i dont mind Varium i just dont want it which isnt really what im getting at.

Imagine your some kid from lets say a third world country that plays ED(Third world country might be a bit extreme but helps me make my point) You cant afford Varium and there are basicly no surveys so you have no points but yet you are constently bombarded by Varium ads. Personaly that would make me hate this game but thats becuase its always being rubbed in my face that i cant get varium or im not good enough




eragonshadeslayer67 -> RE: A bit much (3/20/2011 19:13:45)

^ you make a great point, and ED definitely needs to create a more free-player friendly atomsphere




voidance -> RE: A bit much (3/20/2011 23:24:27)

I think its dumb that it gives Varuim players the message too, I have all the best stuff but it still tells me i need to get varuim?




TurkishIncubus -> RE: A bit much (3/21/2011 6:16:08)

^ yes me too , how can i power up more im using the best weps avaible :S Maybe they suggest changing to OPED Class :D




BlueKatz -> RE: A bit much (3/21/2011 6:19:41)

yeah... to spammy

let's remove chat filter so ED can be a place of freedom spammer




Luna_moonraider -> RE: A bit much (3/21/2011 10:30:36)

well yeah the button is abit too much i rather they make ballyhoo to advertise thier offers ect ect. rather than forcing a person to see power up button everytime the lose. they can also advertise at ballyhoo in other games.




Chosen 0ne -> RE: A bit much (3/21/2011 14:12:03)

^_____^ if we have memberships i will probably only buy one, then not be able to use all my wepeans untill i decide to get another one, which might be months ^__^.




Soliqe -> RE: A bit much (3/21/2011 14:19:13)

I almost click it every time I lose because I'm used to the leave now buttons being centered...

*sigh*




xiler23 -> RE: A bit much (3/21/2011 14:28:08)

yea that button is a bit much, but it does make me want to buy more which is the aim ofcourse, and these guys need the money so we can keep playing so it should probably stay...

maybe you could make it so theirs 10 varium packs going from 1000 to 10000? like ive bought the 10000pack on four ppl and some of the smaller ones on another and i still dont have that much stuff, but ive spent like $300 n well im on the doll so its a tad pricey for me. (guess i shoulda put it all on one char oops)

maybe you could make it so that once ure a level 30 gamer its half price or something like that, then ppl might buy more and you would still make the same amount of money?
yet again im only saying that because im a lvl32 gamer lol...

edit: lol chosen...





Chosen 0ne -> RE: A bit much (3/21/2011 14:43:43)

lvl 1 gamer is enouph[:D]

jk lol




bighobbo -> RE: A bit much (3/21/2011 16:07:24)

Seriously? A "Power Up Now" button when you lose? I smell desperation from the staff lol




One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: A bit much (3/21/2011 19:41:43)

ED brings in at least 100's of paying players a day even if they quit right after that its still money in the pocket and the least they could do is put in an option where you can turn it off


now im acting like its not even my topic




King FrostLich -> RE: A bit much (3/21/2011 19:43:59)

This button is so annoying and forcing people to use money in this game. I demand an off tool for this thing to disappear please.... -.-




tigura -> RE: A bit much (3/21/2011 19:53:21)

The power up button hasnt bothered me so far :D. Idk y, but I just automatically click the lower button, even tho the upper one is in the center.




ED Prince of Shadows -> RE: A bit much (3/21/2011 20:38:25)

It should NOT be centered and above the other continue button.

This should also be removable by varium players/players that have played for awhile. That is if they don't remove it >>they should<<




One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: A bit much (3/21/2011 20:43:37)

I think if youve bought Varium in the last month the Power Up now button should be removed becuase chances are you already have the best gear




Vitodawn -> RE: A bit much (3/21/2011 20:56:56)

You know, even though I'm a hard playing(and paying) varium player, these still come up. It's annoying. They SHOuLD have an option to turn off these things.




Luna_moonraider -> RE: A bit much (3/21/2011 21:22:59)

off topic: just waiting for button to talk about this button.

On topic: well the should put the button at the side instead of making it in the center.




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