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truc -> New idea (3/25/2011 0:16:56)
Hey everyone, Truc here with a new idea. We all know massacre is very powerful, so why not make surgical and supercharge buffed. Keeping in mind that, bounties are dominating and maybe this slight enhance can change fights a bit. I think it's fair because massacre,bloodlust, shadowarts, and high strength is just AWFUL. Everyone discuss what you think should change to make SC, and SS more adequate.

Shocka -> RE: New idea (3/25/2011 0:19:13)
Surgical is fine Massacre is only op with super strength- with under 60 strength, it does nothing Supercharge should reduce rage 25% in addition.

truc -> RE: New idea (3/25/2011 0:23:45)
Hey, Surgic and SC is practically the same... Energy damage, same amount of energy but just that surgic lowers rage by 50% Wait, how is that fair?

voidance -> RE: New idea (3/25/2011 0:37:23)
I think Supercharged should ignore more then 20% res.

Lectrix -> RE: New idea (3/25/2011 0:44:27)
I'm with Shocka on this one. I agree that Surgical Strike should be left alone. A surprising number of Mercs use it, usually to destroy Rage Meters. When you compare it with Massacre and Surgical Strike, Supercharge definitely needs a Buff. Sigh Yet another reason why Tech Mages are underpowered, but the Devs won't listen. Watch; as soon as a Merc enters this Discussion, we've lost the argument.

tigura -> RE: New idea (3/25/2011 1:06:48)
Lectrix is right. Supercharge is basically useless, unless u want to do damage. Also, it generally does less damage than SS even with the 20% resist. ignore.

TankMage -> RE: New idea (3/25/2011 1:45:26)
Surgical strike does not need a buff ... reduce rage by 50% with a 30% heal? ... definately does not need a buff. Supercharge needs a buff ... 30% heal and 20% ignore resistance - LOL! reducing rage is alot better then having a tiny bit of extra damage

DilZZZ -> RE: New idea (3/25/2011 4:58:25)
Give TM the old 3x Supercharge back[&:]

Luna_moonraider -> RE: New idea (3/25/2011 5:55:50)
surgical strike need a hammer requirement. since super charge and mass need class weps to perform. i wonder y ss is a sword skill. the fact is every time the devs release a sword promo mercs can use it without changing their build because they have a lot of skill that can be used by sword that is why the NEED a hammer requirement for some skills. and it will be fair cause ss,sc and mass are at the same spot tier and spot and only ss does not have a class wep requirement. also i think sc needs to be improved. maybe make it X2 instead of X3 like last time.

Billybunz -> RE: New idea (3/25/2011 7:57:23)
Dude, no way! The old SC ingored 100% defence, had a 4 turn cooldown, was unblockable, and converted ALL your MP into DAMAGE when maxed. All they are going to need is stat bonuses in dex and tech, 150 mp, and the rest in hp. If the player has 150 or more hp, they'll be CRUSHED by agility.

OhMyGoshness -> RE: New idea (3/25/2011 8:32:09)
^ Exactly, Muhahahahahaha

romanu -> RE: New idea (3/25/2011 8:42:49)
i agree, supercharge needs more power, maybe more resistance ignored or better heal.

IsaiahtheMage -> RE: New idea (3/25/2011 12:09:38)
Surgical is fine SC needs a buff.Surgical = Reduces rage by 50% and 30% life steal Masscre is only good for STR builds SuperCharge = 20% res ignore and 30% life steal and can easily be stopped by energy shield and a Tank Merc while SS rage reducing ability cant be stopped.

ED Prince of Shadows -> RE: New idea (3/25/2011 14:49:18)
I hit an average of 50-60 damage with MAX supercharge (and malf). Additionally, I have a 16ish return in health... Only about 90 dex and malf to do so. I believe to buff the resistance negation would be ideal because it would increase hp return as well.

Nebula -> RE: New idea (3/25/2011 15:17:09)
Why are people suggesting Supercharge to hit 2 or 3 times instead of 1? Tell me, what on Earth is that going to do to help its weak damage? To be honest, I think it should have 30 or 40% life steal and 50% resistance ignore, that'll make it a lot better imo. Or why not make it have a 40% life steal and ignore all resistance buffs ( meaning skills, armours and from agility )?

PivotalDisorder -> RE: New idea (3/25/2011 15:39:41)
@Nebula: this video was posted in the 5 page mage topic. shows what supercharge used to be like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuWxzydJV2s its pretty funny too :P

Nebula -> RE: New idea (3/25/2011 17:16:57)
^I know what Supercharge used to be like. But they never said "Make Supercharge the way it was in Alpha" they said "Make it hit 2x/3x" which makes no difference to the damage, unless ED satff decide to.

PivotalDisorder -> RE: New idea (3/25/2011 17:22:26)
lol how does it hitting 2-3 times not effect the damage ? if it hits for 15 is 15+15+15 less or even equal ?

wario the great -> RE: New idea (3/25/2011 17:25:42)
tbh i havent seen anyone use SC since the early beta days so it does need a buff

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