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edwardvulture -> Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 15:51:05)

Its almost impossible for nonvariums to win nowadyas. The devs have just nerfed the "level up" which was the biggest advantage the nonvariums had against lower level varium players. Now those low level varium players are running around with the best weapons ever while the nonvarium higher level players have weaker stats than they do. They basically took the meaning of level up. By leveling up, you'd just give them 10 more xP or credits. What the hell, this is horrible. Since no f2p donig one on one anymore, the varium advantage is gone and will nonw become the new standard. They also took the advantage of spamming stats, so now the nonvariums are even weaker in cases which depend on a crit to win. Now it is truly impossible to beat Tuna or Slayer. This is crappy and creativity can't solve this because of the huge gap.



Banir -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 17:14:35)

Times are bad for non-variums. Even in 2v2 I'm having trouble fighting level 28's with level 31 equipment. Think about the lower level non-variums. A level 28 can't deal with the level 28's-33's all using the best weapons in the game. Only if the Devs release some new uber-powered non-varium weapons will we even start to stand a chance.



bighobbo -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 18:00:43)

Non variums don't have robots. At least most of them don't. And while almost all varium users are using 5 focus builds with their robots, we have absolutely nothing since focus builds are completely useless to us. In terms of builds, non variums have nowhere to go. We can't abuse a stat anymore (technically we can, but it would suck), and we can't use a balanced build (technically we can too, but it would suck without a robot).



DeathGuard -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 18:35:27)

No i got alvl 28 and a lvl 27 merc and they're working fine without lvl 31 weps anyways there was a guy that has -8 is this a bug or what? :S



Epic Pwnser -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 18:47:26)

I agree with everyone in support of non-variums.

As I said in the other topics.
Non-variums are underpowered because they are being left behind in stats, comparing 96 something stats to some odd 40-50 stats.

Everyone should know this is all because "greed is good".
If you pay, you get the benefits.
If you don't, then you are naturally at a disadvantage.
And because you don't, the devs put something in the game that makes you want to get it, by paying for it.
Such as the gamma bot. Focus now only affects the gamma bot or assault bot. +5 extra damage and 2 more modes of damage/debuff.



jegaggin -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 18:56:34)

maybe ask grenadelauncher hes the first non varium player to reach level 33 i saw he had a 70+% winning



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 19:08:23)

Yeah the only edge us F2P's have is over other F2P's who didnt pick up a rare weapon that is a bit better then normal gear otehr then that we are all using the same gear and are basicly fodder for everyone



King FrostLich -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 19:21:45)

Most of us are still 32. Jari reached 33 a long time ago but had to reach a 70% win ratio to 80% in 1v1 matches. It's a difficult time for us right now to adapt.



XxEPiC Str3NGtHxX -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 19:35:54)

i back non-Variums on this 110%.
You simply HAVE to have varium to stand a chance and even then you have to BUY and BUY and BUY endlessly.
Unless you shower in gold and riches while having exquisite dinner bought to you by your own waitress, you will never be able to give enough money to keep level with everyone else.



King FrostLich -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 19:39:40)

@above: And what happens if there are no malls with AE cards, rixty coinstar machines, ultimate game cards or any offers in our offer system in portal.battleon.com? The answer is simple, no varium available :P.



xxmirxx -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 19:50:49)

Its harder to win even noobs



truc -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 21:00:56)

I agree with frost and mir.
As a non-var we get 3 weps every 4 months average. [ 32-33]
Some of the weapons are not good either.
Now since defense and tech points lowered I can't be tank and str will defeat me.
I'm going caster and average 72.1.
Back in beta I had 84.4 with caster.
In early gamma I had 82% with a very tweaked sword build took a long time to make.
Now I still perfect my builds, yet I can't average 80%...
This is why I play twice a week, when in beta i was excited to do 1 v1's. [played 3 hours a day 5 times a week]



Wraith -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 21:07:27)

@Truc: Alpha Staff is only 1 stat off from Beta Staff so you can use it, you kno!

F2P need better weapons in general.



Xxbbooxx -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 21:11:10)

i like this update, its unfair for non variums, but i have varium and now im level 30 wasting level 33's, althought since im level 30 wasting level 33 non varium and sometimes variums i can see why it is not fair, i would actually like a buff, so non variums are actually a challenge



Angels Holocaust -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 21:27:30)

You guys have completely forgotten about one thing, and that's the role of the non variums. There job is to be a free win for variums, nothing more or less be happy that you were able to play this game for free.



edwardvulture -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 21:43:17)

^It won't be a free win if none of us press one on one, I'm not trying to stop non-variums from playing real battles, but the way they're treated is provoking a self-driven boycott.



truc -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 21:53:14)

@Angels: I find that offensive because what if your poor and where you live at you can't do surveys.
Iv'e been here since alpha so I know alot of tactics to win.
You're just a pathetic insect that can't get off my back.
You still complain or make a powerful opinion that can hurt people's feelings.
You're over 18, you still complain like a little 5 year old.
To be honest I'm starting to think you have no life. lmao.



Novaburst -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 21:58:01)

@ Angels,

Really? because thats not the vibe I've been getting form all the AE posts in the Design Notes and forums saying how they love and treat all their players, paying and f2p, equally.



truc -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 22:05:05)

Angels think she's better then all of us.
Surely, she no-life'd her way to the top.
Problem angels?



WhiteTiger -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 22:26:27)

I totally agree. Non-varium players were already underpowered before, but now they're even more underpowered. Many varium players say that diminishing returns affected them much more than varium players but that's coming from people that are used to having huge stat advantages over non-varium players. Taking off 2 or 3 defense/resistance to varium players is nothing. Taking away 2 or 3 defense/resistance to non-varium players could mean certain death. But of course, varium players can't see that. It's actually one of the reasons I stay a non-varium player. To see the game in a different view or perspective. It's actually gone to a point where varium players don't expect an advantage, they expect a certain win. And then when they don't win, they start complaining. Now this may not be for all varium players, but I have personally seen many people calling me a hacker because I won by 1 HP, got a deflection, block or critical. And the worst part about it is that we hardly have a chance now. It's one thing to have a slight chance of winning and to have certain death (excluding luck). And right now, it's extremely close to the certain death side, if not already reached.



Gold -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 22:45:55)

Really, non-variums get next to no freedom when it comes to items and enhancing them.

They don't even get to enhance them unless they're winning constant 10k credits from the arcade.



BlueKatz -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 22:54:18)

Non varium suck

but even non varium Mer is OP.... 100 lose at lv 28....ya



truc -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 23:01:00)

@BlueKatz: Do you even know what your talking about mate?



Thylek Shran -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 23:26:54)

The weakness of non varium users is a big problem since more than a year.
But its not the game policity to change this. Instead, the gap between varium
and non varium players is getting bigger and bigger. I donīt think that this
will ever change because the complainings got always ignored. Thats capitalism.



Porsche911 -> RE: Nonvariums-Uped as ever (4/17/2011 23:30:49)

Well non variums cant be the best in the game if they dont even pay
just imagine lose with every non var and you just bought Varium for nothing
Well thats just my point of view

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