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Soliqe -> RE: Bullys (4/22/2011 3:38:12)
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With the language issue: I admit that I do speak English as my first language, and I speak several other languages poorly. That said, it saddens me when other players insult players who are unable to speak English fluently. However, I'm never sure how to deal with it, because I have to ask myself if I'm treating those who point out flaws in ESL speakers' speech differently vs. EFL speakers' speech (well, text, but you get what I'm saying). Is it ok to tell someone who speaks English as their first language that their English is not very good, but not someone who speaks English as a second language?
Unfortunately, with bullying the victim does need to make sure he or she has a running record for repeated harassment or even some kind of proof for mods to do much about bullying. I sympathize with victims of bullying, though, I get bullied and harassed as well, and there's a certain amount of that I've accepted as part of the job of being a moderator. All I can suggest victims do is to make complete reports to one of the ED in-game mods or to the Lawman, and to ignore bullies or avoid places where bullies tend to congregate. Yes, it would be better to say "potential bullies, stop bullying", and this in no way is blaming the victim- it's risk reduction, not prevention. And hopefully punishing the offenders will lead to less bullying if they know that there are consequences to their actions.
@Cinderella and everyone else
There is a difference between bullying, joking, and correcting grammar. If anything, foreign players should be happy to know that there is a magical thing such as Google Translate, works wonders. Punishment should NEVER be given out for grammatical spelling errors, however, a user steps over the line when they mock someone else, regardless of whether you speak english or not.
One thing I'd like to point out. There's a lot of hatred towards us American users who want to "help"(believe it or not there are ones who mean to be helpful) others understand, what their saying makes little to no sense. Some Americans may not know a player is foreign, so don't bite their heads off. This post shows a lot of favoritism towards others languages, and it makes American English speaking players look like crooks.
It's wrong to make fun of ANYONE's language, not just spanish, pinoy, turkish, or french. That means, English players shouldn't be derided for not knowing the other languages that one player knows. See where I'm getting at here?
Do unto others good things regardless of bullying. Ignore the bully remarks. (You actually don't have to reply to every critical post)
If you do decide to reply, think before you act. I've seen too many players mistake someone who's intentions are good ones, and then had them turned bad because someone took it the wrong way.
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