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xxmirxx -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/1/2011 20:21:17)

I think are main issue is money in this game. Honestly the beta times were cheaper then now.



beastmo -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/1/2011 20:26:48)

Whats the actually point of arguing if u dont have founder ur gonna go
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Down with founders!!! Really, you guys don't need a better armor, it is still the best in a lot of cases.


and if your a founder ur gonna go
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Founder amour should get buffed. It should always get buffed.
the only thing i will say is make it +8 then we wouldnt have to hear all the noobs complain -.-



xxmirxx -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/1/2011 20:35:26)

No then they win. we need to say keep way it is. imagine if they did say yes then we will hear more complaining but in the game.



beastmo -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/1/2011 20:49:05)

They Win? how would they win even admins say without us there would be no epicduel so really? most founders will regret paying for this game now they dont need us so they toss out like trash since other people pay more money then others i still pay 100s a week but really why do they care?



xxmirxx -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/1/2011 20:55:48)

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the only thing i will say is make it +8 then we wouldnt have to hear all the noobs complain -.-


thats what I mean they win.



beastmo -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/1/2011 21:02:17)

Thats not winning thats a reward e.e



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/1/2011 21:04:52)

@Lamb0
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I think anything varium related should always be able to use in-game.

So you think a lv 33 Varium user should be able to beat a lv 33 F2P with the following gear

http://www.epicduelwiki.com/index.php/Brutal_Scimitar
http://www.epicduelwiki.com/index.php/Ion_Pistol

http://www.epicduelwiki.com/index.php/Founder_Armor_(Tech_Mage_Level_12)
http://www.epicduelwiki.com/index.php/Founder_Armor_(Bounty_Hunter_Level_12)
http://www.epicduelwiki.com/index.php/Founder_Armor_(Mercenary_Level_12)

its all Varium Gear so by your logic it should always be useable meaning they can win with it



beastmo -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/1/2011 21:17:49)

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So you think a lv 33 Varium user should be able to beat a lv 33 F2P with the following gear

http://www.epicduelwiki.com/index.php/Brutal_Scimitar
http://www.epicduelwiki.com/index.php/Ion_Pistol

http://www.epicduelwiki.com/index.php/Founder_Armor_(Tech_Mage_Level_12)
http://www.epicduelwiki.com/index.php/Founder_Armor_(Bounty_Hunter_Level_12)
http://www.epicduelwiki.com/index.php/Founder_Armor_(Mercenary_Level_12)

its all Varium Gear so by your logic it should always be useable meaning they can win with it


If you did not know they dont have to use that gear or in ur opinion its required? they can use anything they want and also did you know theres something called luck? and if the noob buys varium he can buy mostly good gear and a armor.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/1/2011 21:32:54)

beastmo i know but he said anything Varium related should always be useable so i went and found the crappiest Varium gear i could(minus founder armor i just didnt want to find three different armors) and put it in the worst possible situation to prove a point and that point is, Anything you say can and will be used against you




beastmo -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/1/2011 21:35:37)

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Anything you say can and will be used against you


Same goes with you also 1/100 chance they use that so called "crappiest gear"



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/1/2011 21:39:38)

but there is a 100% chance that it falls into the Varium related item category which means it has to be useable according to his logic even if it isnt used ever



beastmo -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/1/2011 21:40:58)

DID u know low lvl founders was ages ago? there is no more



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/1/2011 21:42:43)

DID you know it was a hypothetical so even if all of that gear was no longer in game it still works



Phoenix Angel -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/1/2011 21:54:55)

This endless bickering doesn't help anything.
We keep jumping around the concept of paying for a buff and people complaining that it had it's time in the sun.

Please read my post on page 4, I think that idea has merit and allows for Founder Armor to have its niche and level range and varium armors have their own as well.

By restricting the merge shop which would additionally cost a large sum of varium and credits to a specific level, IE: 35, it would prevent lower levels from equipping it.
By using the lvl 12 and 25 versions in the merge, it reduces clutter and allows for the varium cost of the merge to possibly be reduced a little if they're enhanced.

Who knows when we'll get to 35? Such a system ensures dedicated founders can still use their favored armor and style while also allowing interim armors to be stronger than the founder armors beneath them.
Ensuring a level of power set for Varium Armors with the encumbered capability and a level for Founder Armors without this capability would be key to making this a stable and solid foundation for the future.



Mr Zerj -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/2/2011 9:58:33)

Silver , it's just the thing to think . You can't make an armor ( BEST ARMOR ) and put in NON-VARIUM , armor's designer waste time creating it and he sell it with credits only ?

Armors good built , need to be VARIUM !

Understand now ?



RKC -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/2/2011 10:36:51)

Just buff founders armor +1 resistance.[:D]

Then buff all non-varium armors +1 also. (So all of you would shut up)[:@]



Giras Wolfe -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/2/2011 11:13:48)

2 extra base stats, 1 extra resistance. I hope most of you are being sarcastic with the 32 stat 20 slot suggestions. That would obviously break the game.



RKC -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/2/2011 11:16:12)

@Giras Wolfe

What!!! Just +1 resistance no more no less.



beastmo -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/2/2011 11:24:09)

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DID you know it was a hypothetical so even if all of that gear was no longer in game it still works

u dont see anyone walking around with lvl 12 founder do u?



Sparticus -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/2/2011 11:40:02)

We founders make up such a small cross section of this game that there is no fiscal incentive to give us anything. The only reason we ended up getting a gift this year was because the DEVs wanted to say thank you, not because we deserve or are entitled to it. Anyone who attempts to make the argument that founders are entitled to any perks at this point is confused. This game has moved so far away from us that we no longer have any real meaning to this game. The remaining founder class is mostly emeritus. If anything we should just do what all mature players do, sit back and enjoy what we helped build. As for founders armor buffs, they already said no. If they change their minds then that's another gift but to demand change is rude.



BlueKatz -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/2/2011 12:41:31)

Idk what you guys think but I would like to see Founder get buffed sometime in the future. It's a big waste
About the 1000 Varium, it's kinda stupid and completely go against your wish actually. We don't want to be stronger and have money to buy new things...



xxmirxx -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/2/2011 14:59:40)

I like to see bunny armor get buff, give them 2 slots and +1 resistance.[:D]
And then founders get there +1 resistance.[:D]



beastmo -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/2/2011 15:01:50)

^ bunnys get a buff when they didnt even do anything for that armor that really doesnt make any sense



5rr5 -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/2/2011 15:07:07)

Founder is already OPED and be happy for what you have and why would they increase the resistance ( for example ), just for you talk about it? So you don't buy more armors because you already have good one? Don't think staffs is stupid.



xxmirxx -> RE: Ideas for Buffing Founders (5/2/2011 15:18:57)

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^ bunnys get a buff when they didnt even do anything for that armor that really doesnt make any sense


that does make sence your sentence.



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