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edwardvulture -> Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 1:39:56)

So I'm drawing a blank on what build to try next. It seems that all the best build makers have left the game. Build making used to be an adventure. What is left now is 5 bonus or MP spam, which doesn't really work for nonvarium players. Even though extreme builds have been slightly nerfed, balanced builds have been nerfed worse because it got penalized in all the stats. The overall message is that it is now things a bit more balanced, was it worth the cost of fun?



Shocka -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 1:44:09)

I wish we were back at the stage of the heal loopers. That was the best even for non mages. Creativity flourished more than now.



PivotalDisorder -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 1:50:03)

erm, u missed support build ;)



edwardvulture -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 2:00:43)

Yep, too much critz though, yes I missed beta nad the pre-enahncement era



T.600 -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 2:17:40)

Enhancements destroyed the game, there's no going back now and we all know it.



Remorse -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 2:58:58)

I know what you mean , I'm cosidered a build maker and im finding it particular hard atm. i have found that the most sucsesfull build with no weakness is the focus merc , but that build in itself is boring, thres not much they do apart from robot aux, heal , and get hit for bugger all damage. But I have tried a few diffrent ones with sucsses (atm i'm double healing BH :O). If you want help with a build I will gladly help i usally hang around oz 7, I can make complete builds for either BH or Mercs . Or suggestions for tweaking any build.
Remorse Less [:)]



HydroMonk -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 3:06:01)

RIP Venom Strike aka POISON



Remorse -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 3:11:39)

quote:

HydroMonk RIP Venom Strike aka POISON
lol ikr they should at least take the 70% thing away e.e



PivotalDisorder -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 3:38:23)

venom strike in 1v1 is pretty good imo. and my bh isnt a str stacker.



Chaos1x -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 4:25:57)

Thats a shame. my favorite part about this game was making new builds.

To bring creativity and strategy back into this game class advancements are required.



King FrostLich -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 7:26:36)

I can still make one last more for mages. But nah I'll not restore our glory back :P.



jegaggin -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 7:29:16)

well mercs never ahd a creative build so yah.



Goony -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 9:08:20)

^ simply not true...

I have been messing around and was recently used a 199hp 123st build. Was a bit of fun, I got hit by a critical and was blocked almost every game and still won most of them ;)

Must have been uber fun for those strength BH who smoked me and had a critical massacre for well over 100 damage...

The range of builds is only limited by your imagination or having a buddy like Storms XD



T.600 -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 9:10:37)

^yes they did...-.-



Agiluz -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 9:13:05)

my high dex multi build still kinda works in 2 vs 2 but its's useless as a high tech mage without mana xD



Xendran -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 18:24:44)

Who remembers when creative builds like this WORKED?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhRlkblLsh4

And there was no need to spend 5,000 varium just enhancing your gear.

Back in the day, we could afford to have a whole arsenal of weapons without having to upgrade them all, allowing is to try virtually any build we wanted!



Nebula -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 18:29:01)

^And then came Gamma.



edwardvulture -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 19:59:34)

Now to think of it.... the robot was also a creativity killer. Before it was first introduced, no one had 35 35 35 35 stats and that kind of crap.



Silent Scream -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 20:29:54)

Agreed... pretty much everyone has the same build now and we all have to just go along with it because if we dont any other build we make is just too weak and doesnt work well at all with these recent changes =/

Nearly every merc i fight is Focus.. then you still get the odd high support merc and high strength merc

Every mage i fight either has a high support or focus build

Every BH i fight either has a high strength build or focus build

This is getting really tired

Facing the same builds over and over again.... and anyone who doesnt have one of these builds just gets smashed

I miss beta... =/

- Silent



Matgon -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 20:35:42)

Lol if it's obviously not a high support/strenght build what else is it going to be apart from focus?

What really bothers me is agility, remove it for one week and see how things go, please.



xxmirxx -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 20:38:15)

quote:

Thats a shame. my favorite part about this game was making new builds. To bring creativity and strategy back into this game class advancements are required.

I agree



jegaggin -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 20:49:23)

@ silent im your odd high support :D i get owned by focus mercs -.- maybe use one in the future (again). I found using a focus build a tad boring.
One question i wish to pose. Can you think of any build that is relatively successful (80%) that a merc DOESNT abuse one stat.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 21:20:07)

i have a real creative build it took my afew retrains to perfect it and even now i still see room for improvement and to boot my F2P mage build(of which i will not share its style for fear of it being stolen) was able to defeat a mostly varium focus BH in a fair fight no crits blocks or deflects

and i personally see two things wrong with my own statement
1) F2P beat a varium of the same level in a fair fight
2)focus BH went down even with the advantage on my weakness(being my low res and def)


so not only do i have a creative build i have a powerful build



edwardvulture -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 23:47:27)

^Show me screeny or meet me somewhere plz



goldslayer1 -> RE: Creative builds just dont' work anymore (4/30/2011 23:58:12)

@everyone
STR bh was made by dax, she was creative with the build, its actually a good build if use strategy with it.
its not her fault that alot of uncreative people decided to copy her.
after the stats diminishment i made a str BH build similar, but not an exact copy, i made modifications to it and to me it works better than the old one.
altho a new version came out now after stat diminishment where they put their cheapshot at lvl 8
and use extra energy.



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