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Clutch -> Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/5/2011 20:36:59)

Just wanted to point out that 7 of the 15 people on the daily leaderboard have over 95% win rates. 3 of which have 100%, and 3 of which have OVER 97.5%.If thats not overpowered, I don't know what is.

-To admins, if ur not to busy giving us some random missions, could you look into some issues about the actual balance part of the game, you know, the ACTUAL concept of the game, because its certainly not balanced right now. K thanks.

** Sidenote, no disrespect meant, or offense intended, just kind of upset about how the game is going right now.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/5/2011 20:42:09)

From what i remember the devs make a point to destroy every class that can make a build that requires no skill for 95% or better just look at us mages it took like 7 months to get back up

So what class are we going to beat into the dust this round Clutch



Clutch -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/5/2011 20:48:42)

I'm feelin a little high dex BH nerf. Some support spamming nerf. And to top it off, maybe a little merc tanking destruction :)



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/5/2011 20:49:53)

shoot every class in the leg so no one can take off running that seems like a fair nerf



AQWPlayer -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/5/2011 20:50:12)

Is anyone gonna make a new Clutch build?



Clutch -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/5/2011 20:57:37)

My point is, if were updating every week, AND were still in the testing phase, shouldn't we be testing battle related things instead of giving us quests for *oooohhhh Red Jems and Golden Bullets!!!***?
Every week, we should have some sort of balance change. Because its not even close to being balanced right now and this game needs to go back to its roots. That's what many of us joined this game in the first place for. Not to play AQW. If I wanted to play AQW, i'd play AQW. Not bashing quests, just saying its not as important as some other things. Such as balance, tournaments, and friggin being able to choose our own 2v2 partners!!! I mean come on, someone needs to get their priorities straight.



DillBagel -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/6/2011 1:58:11)

Choosing 2v2 partners...
Epic, but two loaded support mercs would dominate everything.

Which btw, support mercs need a nerf.[>:]



King FrostLich -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/6/2011 2:09:47)

@DillBagel: 3rd nerf already for them lol. I'm just gonna suggest that 2 support mercs shouldn't be teamed because even hunters will have problems after emp'ing them because of support and their massive heal as well as crits.



Nebula -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/6/2011 2:30:40)

I suggest we get rid of agility because no one likes it and our opinions are the Dev's best interest, right? right?

Also, I'm assuming the people at the top of the leaderboard are all Strength Hunters. After 3 nerfs in a row, then a nerf to all classes, then more enhancements, they get back up. =c



Silver Sky Magician -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/6/2011 2:48:09)

Actually I feel that balance should take second priority. Maybe once every few months or so, but not every update. Balancing has impeded the devs from expanding EpicDuel (and all those people complaining about the lack of promised features say it's the devs' fault -.-). I think that there should be a fixed 'balancing week' every few months, not every update. Perfectionism (which aim is impossible to achieve) is slowing progress down immensely. The use of creativity and adaptation is long overdue.

As for the 2v2 merc problem, perhaps no two classes should be allowed to be paired together (I think that will require less coding than specifically targeting support mercs).



jegaggin -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/6/2011 5:24:18)

guys... 2 focus mercs can beat 2 support mercs.



Nebula -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/6/2011 5:44:45)

^The only thing that can stand up to a Merc in 2v2 is another Merc. OTher classes have no chance unless they super tank, but Mercs will just crit more if they do.



BlueKatz -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/6/2011 5:46:22)

oh nono lol, no class can win Mer in 2vs2, mage and Bh rarely be on top if they team up with Mer at least



King FrostLich -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/6/2011 6:09:30)

A support emp hunter can match the support mercs as long as the hunter never gets critted too much or he's dead as well.



Agiluz -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/6/2011 7:29:37)

Im one of those tank bh's builds with a decent support and good def/res and i could beat mercs as long they don't crit me.



altimatum -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/6/2011 7:47:45)

You've got a point... if it's a testing phase why do we get houses, bikes, n thousands of other non battle updates [:(]



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/6/2011 8:20:58)

@Clutch
quote:

I'm feelin a little high dex BH nerf. Some support spamming nerf. And to top it off, maybe a little merc tanking destruction :)


So basically your saying if its a OPed build I cant beat it HAS to be nerfed? You people need to stop really stop. If you cant beat it and its to strong think of a way to beat it. You people all say it 2 turn killed me it 2-4 turn killed me I cant win! [:@]So it MUST BE NERFED!! This is so unfair!!! They killed me so easily!!![:@] I have seen plenty of threads like this dont you realize its not just the devs destroying the game its all of us. We whine about this OPed or this being OPed so it MUST be nerfed we whine and whine and whine they give in give us what we want then we complain about no creativity left because everything has huge stat requirements(Including passives). Who's fault is that? No one to blame but yourself. No wonder the devs cant make balance not with everyone whinning like 3 year olds. I know some builds are tough and hard to beat but no one is impossible.




jegaggin -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/6/2011 8:21:46)

wait who wants focus and support to be nerfed.. thats all the 2v2 merc builds..
Edit 3 sooo i did gather that clutch wants to nerf mercs.. how about we nerf bhs even more! lets give smoke screen a 40 support req! and then to up the anty lets just take away shadow arts!



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/6/2011 8:24:38)

^ Yup he does. Support Merc and Tanking Merc are mostly in 2 vs 2 he wants to nerf them so he can beat them! He wants to nerf any build he has a problem with so he can beat them all! And he calls that balance. Yeah sure. EDIT: No dont give smoke screen any requirement dont even try to nerf BHs even more. get rid of SA? ROFL. No its just a 10% chance so no I thought the whole era of SA was over. No one needs to be nerfed buffing is the solution nerfing only results in complete destuction of builds and creativity with all these huge stat requirements. Nerfing resulted in healing cooldown and agility so no more please no more.



8x -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/6/2011 9:02:52)

quote:

Just wanted to point out that 7 of the 15 people on the daily leaderboard have over 95% win rates. 3 of which have 100%, and 3 of which have OVER 97.5%.If thats not overpowered, I don't know what is.

-To admins, if ur not to busy giving us some random missions, could you look into some issues about the actual balance part of the game, you know, the ACTUAL concept of the game, because its certainly not balanced right now. K thanks.

** Sidenote, no disrespect meant, or offense intended, just kind of upset about how the game is going right now.


The point of leaderboards is to show the best players... So if few players are really good at this game (or just kill NPCs) You call them OPed?



Azugul -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/6/2011 10:45:55)

Honestly, I'm a level 24 BH and I'm currently going through a 15 losing streak. It's kind of pissing me off. I hope it gets better as I level up. I've researched the best builds for BH, and I still suck. For right now, I think Mercs need their hybrid armor nerfed majorly. Oh yeah, and the fact that the Varium players are vastly better than non-Varium makes me mad, too.

Just my input there.



jegaggin -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/6/2011 10:57:36)

azugul we've already had an uneeded nerf and when you hit the higher lvls like 30+ 12 defense isnt that much compared the how much the mages and bhs can put up



PivotalDisorder -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/6/2011 11:34:14)

all the mercs go on the defensive every time a nerf is mentioned. its hilarious.
if mages and hunters were smashing u in 2v2 with their plasma rain/multi for months and ur artillery strike was
weak as hell, im pretty sure you would be asking for a nerf or buff. you cant be the most powerful 2v2 class forever



Jacktaz -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/6/2011 11:47:06)

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Oh yeah, and the fact that the Varium players are vastly better than non-Varium makes me mad

We pay for the varium and also keep the game running so dont come at us with you deserve better. ok maybe a +7 armour and 4 enhancment slots and some higher hitting weapons but your a free player. in some ways you support the game but you dont keep it running.
sorry just proving a point.
-Jack.



PivotalDisorder -> RE: Someone's a little overpowered again. (5/6/2011 12:20:40)

@Jacktaz: I think you misread what he said. the fact that they are vastly better was his complaint, nothing to do with actual paying players.
quote:

Varium players are vastly better than non-Varium



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