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Angels Holocaust -> 2 vs 2 Cleaned Up (5/16/2011 23:40:56)

You know I couldn't help but notice that the bug that causes juggernaut battles to lead us into 2 vs 2 was done on purpose. If you take a look at 2 vs 2 battles, the lv gap is balanced now. We're getting usable partners who can pull their weight. All in all this update killed two birds with one stone.




xxmirxx -> RE: 2 vs 2 Cleaned Up (5/16/2011 23:46:36)

That's your opinion.
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We're getting usable partners who can pull their weight.
not all as useless as you put in past. but I do think there should be 5 levels differents in 2vs2 and 2vs1. Also this issue has been problem for over 2 years and still dev's won't fix it.




stryker914 -> RE: 2 vs 2 Cleaned Up (5/17/2011 0:49:22)

Agreed. Sometimes my partner does more work than I do and I supply a lot of the damage after their debuff/initial damage has worked. They can pull their own weight if they respect you, but a good battle plan or a bad one/bad organization can lead to a complete flop (I should know, I wrote an analysis on the French's terrible organization at Crecy). Teamwork can sometimes make up for a 1-2 level difference.




x666satan666x -> RE: 2 vs 2 Cleaned Up (5/17/2011 0:56:46)

it give the bounties a chance to win 2v2 lol




Polandor -> RE: 2 vs 2 Cleaned Up (5/17/2011 7:52:58)

2vs1 currently is really bad, here how to improve it:

* 2vs1 need a new button, so only ppl who want it choose it.
* Increase the team lv, facing a lv 33 to 26-29 (instead f current 22-26).
* a new Leader board for juggernaut consecutive wins (daily)
* Add an option to make a team for 2vs1.
* After each juggernaut win on the same day make the battle harder, example for a lv 33:
26-29 (0 win)
27-29 (after 1 win)
28-29 (after 2 consecutive win)
29-29 (after 3 consecutive win)
29-30 (after 4 consecutive win)
30-30 (after 5 consecutive win)
30-31 (after 6 consecutive win)
31-31 (after 7 consecutive win)
31-32 (after 8 consecutive win)
32-32 (after 9 consecutive win)
32-32 (after 10+ consecutive win)

Those reset everyday, this would make it a challenge, it will also make room for new juggernaut (when someone has 9 consecutive wins, it would ensure less waiting time before a match begin.

*Juggernaut should always go 2nd if facing two lower level player. (26-29)
* Exception to the above rules, give 50% chance to go first if facing a team with a level -1 of the juggernaut
* Exception to the above rules, give 33% chance to go first if facing a team with a level -2 of the juggernaut
* Exception to the above rules, give 13% chance to go first if facing a team with a level -3 of the juggernaut

Lv 33 face two lv 22-26. it a 100% win to any descent lv 33.
You could put 3 or 4 lv 22-26 vs one lv 33 and the lv 33 will still win.
It also a I win button, for those who pay 1200 varium.
It a I lose button if a lv 22-26 try to play a regular 2-2 battle and end up vs a juggernaut.
You can say just don't play 2-2, right ?
Well a lv 22-26 has a lot of chance of facing a higher level in 1-1 and also lose.
The new 2vs1, is actually removing a 2-2 mode for many players.

2vs1 need to be challenging, not a free wins.




Nebula -> RE: 2 vs 2 Cleaned Up (5/17/2011 8:16:44)

You keep posting that like it's the best idea in the world, Polander. Most of the ideas are good except that consecutive win thing.

Wandering Guardian's formula was far better: You play two people whose levels = your level x 2 - 10.
Your way will force even the best and most skilled players to have below 70 - 80% win ratio which is unfair.




IsaiahtheMage -> RE: 2 vs 2 Cleaned Up (5/17/2011 8:27:45)

^Nebula Angels knows thats unfair she doesnt care. She is just selfish and cruel and only cares about herself. She clearly stated she sees non varuims as useless and just cause lag and that we dont matter. She even said she enjoys ruining low levels win records and she trolls them the entire battle. Its a shame someone could be like that and get away with it.

On Topic: I havent noticed any changes in 2 vs 2 at all so what are you talking about?!




GoldenNeo -> RE: 2 vs 2 Cleaned Up (5/17/2011 8:31:58)

@^ Angels' selfish? e.O"




Wandering Guardian -> RE: 2 vs 2 Cleaned Up (5/17/2011 8:51:35)

@Nebula

Yup. Made that suggestion about 4 hours ago in Buffy's thread.

~WG




Nebula -> RE: 2 vs 2 Cleaned Up (5/17/2011 9:12:46)

^Oh, that was you? Saw that Daimyo avatar and thought it was PD/Mr. Sup. Heh... *hastily changes it from PD to Wandering Guardian*




Sageofpeace -> RE: 2 vs 2 Cleaned Up (5/17/2011 11:38:54)

Well for most people anyway i still keep getting trash




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