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Chosen 0ne -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 19:00:44)

It shoudlnt have been varium to start thats what i meant lol



DillBagel -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 19:06:49)

I'd say 30-40k.
They're not getting rewards for buying it.
Name change costs the same as the gold skull card, and you also get an achievement, and no battle mode.



helloguy -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 19:07:43)

30-40k Sounds ok



Novaburst -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 19:17:17)

30-40k sounds reasonable, enough to have to farm for but still be challenging.



sk1tz -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 19:22:51)

be cool if they done it in tiers, for eg.

a lvl 20-24 silver card 5k
a lvl 25-28 silver card 10k
a lvl 29-33 silver card 30k




Nexus... -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 19:22:56)

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Or make it free and just give the testers a next free promo item.. or 2k var... or something good.


Yeah who wants a freakin achievement over a promo item or weapon...or a refund. I mean seriously, most expensive achievement ever. They got away with another scam hurray! I guess they assumed everyone read the forum, has a twitter or a facebook. Not one single word in game suggests the battle mode will ever be non-varium =/



goldslayer1 -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 19:32:56)

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most expensive achievement ever

class master is 1500 varium, master of disguise is 1500 varium. so no its not the most expensive.
u got to try out a new mode, pwned some low lvls, and get ahead on on wins than anyone else who didn't purchase it. i dont see how its a bad deal. if this game is so bad to u then quit but dont come on the forums bashing the devs.
because that doesn't solve the problem.



Chosen 0ne -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 19:42:13)

Maybe you have to renew your silver card, like maybe 10k credits a month to resume staying a silver card holder.

Thoughts on this one?



Evric -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 19:46:10)

5k.................tokens



TankMage -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 19:49:51)

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Yeah who wants a freakin achievement over a promo item or weapon...or a refund. I mean seriously, most expensive achievement ever.


I believe your mistaken there nexus.

~Landlord
~Class Master
~Master of disguise
~Warlord



goldslayer1 -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 20:04:06)

@tank
forgot about landlord and warlord.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 20:06:28)

well its 30k for a bike and 15k for an armor(two most expensive things for a F2P) so im guessing from 15k-30k credits



Celestine -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 20:08:26)

I would guess 50k credits. Seems reasonable to me, if anything cheap.

-Celestine



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 20:09:37)

30.000 as a minuim. 84.000 as a maxuim.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 20:33:11)

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I would guess 50k credits. Seems reasonable to me, if anything cheap.

-Celestine


That is cheap for a P2P by your standards and back in Beta that could of been cheap for a F2P but we are now in gamma and if a F2P has that kind of money im betting on Farming/dummying/copy cat builds with Uber luck

very few F2P's have the kind of skill for that amount of dough and they usally buy varium(im speaking of Syfy and Frostlich)



RKC -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 20:34:16)

Lets be realistic here. About 10,000-15,000 at most range.



AQWPlayer -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 20:41:51)

I agree with RKC and the price shouldn't go above 20k



2qazwsxedc -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 20:47:17)

I would say 10k-20k because level 20 people can't get 40k credits until like level 30 or something.



AQWPlayer -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 20:56:32)

^Unless they buy four epic varium packages, then they can get 40k credits at level 1 xD



WhiteTiger -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 21:00:15)

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ORIGINAL: goldslayer1

low lvls dont know how to save, every time they lvl up they feel the need to buy a higher lvl wep. or atleast most of them
anyways if a non varium low lvl always plays power hour. its possible to have 120k by lvl 20 (well since they get to lvl 20 faster if it were at the normal rate with 2x credits then it would be by lvl 20.


Let's see:

During Power Hour, you get 64 credits and 24 experience per solo win. To get 120000 credits, you would need 1875 wins, considering you won every single battle and did not spend any credits on weapons, armors, items, etc... Taking a look at the experience, 1875 * 24 = 45000, which means you're already level 30. Keep in mind that's considering you never spend any credits on anything and win every battle during power hour only.

If we don't take into account Power Hour, you get 32 credits and 12 experience per solo win. To get 120000 credits, you would need 3750 wins, considering you won every single battle and did not spend any credits on weapons, armors, items, etc... Taking a look at the experience, 3750 * 12 = 45000, which means you've still reached level 30.

I'm sorry, but that's just unreasonable. I think a fair amount would be around 12000 credits, since it doesn't give a rarity score boost, an achievement or allows early testing. I agree with RKC's price range of it being 10000 to 15000 credits, which is the amount of credits a level 18 has, considering they don't purchase any equipment. A level 20 would have much difficulty saving up even 10000 credits since they would only be able to get around 15000 credits at max. Purchasing some new equipment every few levels will make that number diminish extremely fast.



goldslayer1 -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 21:00:49)

@aqwplayer
60k if u buy 4 $50 packages.
and assuming the lvl 1 sells his bike and gamma bot he will also get more credits and varium out of it.
so 3 robots X 8k credits = about an extra 24k credits
now that was just the bike
bike is also about 8k
so 48k from bike and gamma bot
so it would be 108k for a lvl 1.



quote:

During Power Hour, you get 64 credits and 24 experience per solo win. To get 120000 credits, you would need 1875 wins, considering you won every single battle and did not spend any credits on weapons, armors, items, etc... Taking a look at the experience, 1875 * 24 = 45000, which means you're already level 30. Keep in mind that's considering you never spend any credits on anything and win every battle during power hour only.

If we don't take into account Power Hour, you get 32 credits and 12 experience per solo win. To get 120000 credits, you would need 3750 wins, considering you won every single battle and did not spend any credits on weapons, armors, items, etc... Taking a look at the experience, 3750 * 12 = 45000, which means you've still reached level 30.

I'm sorry, but that's just unreasonable. I think a fair amount would be around 12000 credits, since it doesn't give a rarity score boost, an achievement or allows early testing. I agree with RKC's price range of it being 10000 to 15000 credits, which is the amount of credits a level 18 has, considering they don't purchase any equipment. A level 20 would have much difficulty saving up even 10000 credits since they would only be able to get around 15000 credits at max. Purchasing some new equipment every few levels will make that number diminish extremely fast.


u seem to forget that at lower lvls u have higher chances of fighting people ur lvl.
and i said that if credits was 2x while exp was at normal rate. then u could have that much



WhiteTiger -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 21:06:31)

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ORIGINAL:goldslayer1

u seem to forget that at lower lvls u have higher chances of fighting people ur lvl.
and i said that if credits was 2x while exp was at normal rate. then u could have that much


I didn't forget that, which is why I didn't incorporate losses. If credits were doubled and experience stayed the same, it is possible, but in reality it isn't that way. And unless they purchase varium packages, it's impossible to get that much at level 20. It's still extremely hard to get it when you're level 33 as a non-varium since equipment gets outdated fast and you end up losing most matchups with varium players.



goldslayer1 -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 21:24:02)

@white tiger
well i did suggest to multiply all credit earnings for anyone below lvl 20 by 1000%
meaning if u normally get 12 credits by beating someone ur lvl. u would get 120 this way by the time they are in the mid 20s and late 20, they have the credits to go thru their "right of passage" towards being around the cap lvl.

also anyone who can make builds and is at low lvl and makes a good builds and chooses gear wisely. they can win 90-95% of the time if not more.



Celestine -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 22:17:06)

@One Winged Angel
Fifty-thousand credits is not as tedious as you are making it appear.
This could be made by playing regularly.

Approximately, you would need 1,563 battles. I do not see a problem with that.
Non-varium Bikes cost 30k credits and are only intended for speed.
A new battle mode should not cost less than that.

Don't expect to battle 30-50 battles each week and be able to try out a new battle mode.
This is not referring to you.

By the standards of some of the players that have posted here, $10 is equivalent to 10-20k credits.
I fail to understand that.

-Celestine

Edit:@above:
Comparing a deck of poker cards to a skull card is quite irrelevant. I don't see how that helps to prove your point.



King FrostLich -> RE: How much do you think the new "non varium" jugg card will be? (5/17/2011 22:23:12)

Why the hell must the card be at high price. I mean compare this one in real life. Buy a deck of poker cards in some so called gambling place in Vegas. How much is it? I dunno, a few cents or $2?? It should be a cheap card.



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