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edwardvulture -> I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/23/2011 18:40:53)

Haha title says it all. I really cannot defeat any of them except strength mercs.
Really, what can you do if your nonvarium?
And do you think the balance update was an epic fail?




Sky Drifter -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/23/2011 18:47:21)

Well if your non var your screwed.




AQWPlayer -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/23/2011 18:49:29)

You can indeed win against variums. I have done so quite a few times, but that was only when it was a varium BH without robot and aux.




edwardvulture -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/23/2011 18:50:34)

^ I really want the devs to play nonvarium for a few days to "see" what the other side is like, the dark one where they've probably never been though that they created. I bet they can't do better.




AQWPlayer -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/23/2011 19:25:00)

^Yes they can do better. They can play as non varium for MONTHS to know exactly how overpowered varium is.




edwardvulture -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/23/2011 21:39:46)

^??? I've seen Titan and Nightwraith play on Youtube videos. It was pretty funny watching them. Let's just say they're not on the top 90% of the skills category. They're creative though. Sort of. But you know, you can't be creative and win anymore.




TurkishIncubus -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/24/2011 7:29:27)

currently there is 2 creative builds STR BUILDS and SUPPORT BUILDS and you are saying removing one of these??? , than what do you think , you will win varium player with 5 focus and high defenses ??? because if these 2 builds removed or nerfed all players will start to use 5 focus




Remorse -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/24/2011 11:03:12)

^ I disagree i think all builds have the potential to be strategic , it just metter who's using it. Although i agree no more builds should be nerfed or tacken away, sometimes you might have to alter you build to the extreme to kill them though. eg I have a merc's defence (Im a BH) just to beat str BH.




BlueKatz -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/24/2011 11:07:10)

quote:

You can indeed win against variums. I have done so quite a few times, but that was only when it was a varium BH without robot and aux.


I think you should answer the thread starter more specific :P HOW?
quote:


Haha title says it all. I really cannot defeat any of them except strength mercs.
Really, what can you do if your nonvarium?




Cookielord12 -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/24/2011 11:13:35)

str mercs are beatable as non var but against str bounties you have 0 chance




Tiago X -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/24/2011 13:13:05)

3 choices here:
a) Do NPC's
b)buy varium
c)quit
Choose yours :p




sunis -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/24/2011 15:12:58)

ooooo lol


I have 2 full varium acounts and my rate now 60%.

Before new balance i had 85-90%.


But....they all time needs a lot of money....




Wraith -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/24/2011 20:06:20)

^O.o, I beat everyone with 11 slots still unenhanced in my build.




edwardvulture -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/25/2011 1:11:24)

I actually deafeated my share of varium strength bonuties as a nonvarium merc. Now.... I have absolutely no chance. THis update actually bufved dem a bit. I was also able to kill them myself as a f2p strength bonuty. Now i can't do it. Nonvariums are getting cheated more and more with every update.




DillBagel -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/25/2011 9:21:41)

@sinastr I have nearly 20 and I don't need them. Although they would be useful.




PenyihiR -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/25/2011 10:27:52)

0 chance??
I beat str bounties with non varium TM (Exactly with heavy luck)[:D]




Hun Kingq -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/25/2011 13:42:31)

Before they screwed with the stats I had beat strength bounties and mercs with no problem. We all could thatnk the stat abusers that only thing they want to be is bullies in the virtual world so if they are like that in the virtual world then that is a reflection of who they are in real life.

It is sad the two most powerful classes complained about how weak shadow arts and blood shield was and they buffed them up while the mage clases needed better defense and resistance what did we get nothing it is bad bounties were blocking all the time but now strength mercs blocking as well while the mage once in a blue moon gets a block or deflection.

To deal with the stat abuser they came up with a one tier diminishing return system, that did not work after the first day. Then the two tier system same with that first day it work but after that I say more damage and more stat abusers then ever before and some are even keepint the base stat low but abusing the stat with enhancements. What they should have did instead is don't mess with the stats but the skills, weapons, and bots that improves with the stat like bunker buster improves with tech then 55 to 85 total tech 25% less damage same with strength, dex, and support, especially support. The class would not have been affected but the ones that want to abuse the stats would be.

I will put this out there again, the mage class needs better defense and resistance and allowing only the mage class to combine a physical and energy armor keeping the enhancements the same, the stat modifiers the same but adding together the points for defense and resistance so you take the space warrior E combine it with the bunny borg physical then it would be +17 for defense and resistance, not as much as getting +25 for resistance when the merc uses max hybrid/blood shield, but better then just + 8 or + 9 for defense or resistance. To add when you combine the two armors you could choose a cool looking effect and make it available to all levels. This would be a huge money maker for ED because everyone that is a mage wanting better defense/resistance would do this. Also once the armors are combined it can't be undone so the mage has to make a wise choice and two energy or two physical can't be combined and once two are combine you can't not combine anymore armors to that combined armor.

To say that is going overboard how would it be overboard for a class, that everyone knows to have weak defense and resistance even with the highest dex and tech that we could mustard, it would help one class while not screwing up any other classes.




5rr5 -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/25/2011 15:16:52)

Yea Str Builds have higher chance to start+crit+deflect+block because they are str builds [:D] It is always something special with them but only the Admins know the secret.




IsaiahtheMage -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/25/2011 17:18:25)

@Hun Kinng

1. Really? Your calling users bullies, in the game world AND the REAL WORLD when you dont even know them, because they use a build you cant beat? Or dislike? How naive.
2. Are you serious? Allow mages to merge their armors together getting 17 Defence AND Resistence but no other class can? Are you out of your mind? Really?! You know how OPed that would make mages. Like seriously you dont want balance you want Mages to be OPed.




edwardvulture -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/25/2011 18:53:31)

Hey! strength abusers are bullies and so are gamma people for killing in 2 turns.




Hun Kingq -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/25/2011 20:05:21)

IsaiahtheMage, yes I am calling them bullies are you one. I have beaten alot stat abusing bullies and they know I can that is why they come after me first. The 17 points was an example. Let us see the merc with max hybrid (on resistance) and max bloodshield can have 25 additional points for resistance while having high dex while the bounty with max Reflex Boost incresing defense to over 100 with ease and get back energy when hit then to mention shadow arts so by you meaning these two classes being able to have high defense, resistance or both is over powered. I pretty sure that 25 is greater than 17 in your eyes it probbly the other way around.

You say 17 addtional points to each defense and resistance will make the mage class over powered, read my post it is about combining two different types of armors (energy and physical) so if one is +3 and +6 then they would get +9 for defense and resistance,WOW, that will really make that mage overpowered when stat modifiers and ehancements will not be double but will meet the better armor. It will give the mage class its own type of hybrid armor while not screwing up the stats or skills even more the previous updates was to curtail all the stat abusing but it did not there is more of it.

In the last 1000 updates what class have been leftout of getting any beneficial changes while the other two classes got beefed up?

So tell everyone what is your idea of boosting the mage class defense and resistance without using energy or health, without screwing up the stats even further or screwing up the skill trees.

Players want a challenge with mage having better defense and resistance, then they would get the challege that they truly lust over.

To further clearify for you this is what the Seraph Armor would look like when combined together:
Seraph Armor HBD
Enhancement Slots:
5
color effect Players choice on the color spectrum
Equipment Type:
Armor
Element:
Physical/Energy
Requirements:
Tech Mage
Male Only
Stat Modifiers:

+12 Defense
+12 Resistance

+6 Technology
+5 Support

So how would +12 make this player overpowered? This Idea would benefit both variums and non-variums because you could use credits or varium but would not be cheap.




IsaiahtheMage -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/25/2011 20:53:57)

I wont even bother to respond to the majority of your comment. So your calling me a bully or anyone else a bully in real life when you dont even know us because of a type of build we like to use on a game? Are you seriously that chidlish? No one will ever take you seriously again. Seriously so plus 17 defences AND resistence on the mage class is not OPed to you? Really dude are you blind? I dont even need to respond to the rest after knowing what it revoles around its useless. You look pathetic really. Good bye hun kinng the people who I was talking to you with a while back where right just ignore you. You know nothing. Farewell your ignorance and arrogance is to annoying.




BlueKatz -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/25/2011 21:14:02)

quote:

0 chance??
I beat str bounties with non varium TM (Exactly with heavy luck)


Make it 0.01%

Also, mage's defense, especially Techni is weaken A LOT now




Hun Kingq -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/25/2011 22:11:20)

IsaiahtheMage, I asked if you were a bully and by your response you called yourself one and basically admitted that you are a stat abuser only one here that is blind with overwhelming ignorance is you as always since your lack of understand of my post I had to clarify it but it appears you still lack the big picture and looking through the world with fogged up glasses. It is known fact that how you setup your character and play in the game represents who you are in real life.

So again:

"So tell everyone what is your idea of boosting the mage class defense and resistance without using energy or health, without screwing up the stats even further or screwing up the skill trees."

I know more then you could ever realize, like I know how to beat George Lowe with a Staff.

You can try to ignore me I will never go away. It is pretty clear that you fear my idea will be incorporated and make your little quick battles last longer and lose to a little old mage or in the Juggernaut you come up against two mages with the hybrid armor and loose. I was in the Juggernaut mode against a level 28 and 26 bounty with being smoked and physical bot attack I still won the battle.

To really make you mad let's combine the bunny borg armor +9 that is +18 for defense and resistance and that is why this armor combination be only available to the tech mage because if it was available to the merc then they could have up to 43 additional points to resistance to you that wouldn't be over powered resistance but to the rest of us it would.




Wraith -> RE: I'm still getting owned by strength bounties and strength mercs (5/25/2011 22:12:49)

ΔElf Priest JZaanu did it.




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