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Banir -> RE: =ED= June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 3:06:07)

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HeroSmash also has a larger staff than EpicDuel has. They can have bigger weekly releases because there are more people.


Why does this excuse always come up around EpicDuel? Just hire some more people. You've had 2 years to put up some wanted posters. Is good help really that hard to find?




Lord GaGa -> RE: June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 3:51:17)

I hope all classes are balanced so I can stay merc.




Lycus -> RE: June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 4:17:29)

@Banir (Not all of this is aimed at you :D): Of course the 'excuse' has been used multiple times, because people don't think about it, and keep on asking anyway. It isn't the Titan and NW who suddenly decide to hire people and get to hire people, it has to go through AE, and right now, HeroSmash has got many artists, many coders, where as ED has 2 artists and 1 coder - That is it.

It isn't anywhere near as simple as it sounds, you can't just hire new staff, the process is quite a long one that requires plenty of time. Sadly the fact is that ED has the smallest team out of them all, yet still manages to get releases out every week. That is an achievement and a half, looking at the small team, and the amount they get done. If you have any experience working on a game like that, you would see how hard it is.

The whole HeroSmash has more staff thing is not an excuse, it's a fact. Sadly the Devs can't just click their fingers and get more staff, no matter how easy it may seem for a player to say that. So at the moment, just accept you have a team of three people who work as much as possible for the players. I have seen with my own eyes how hard they work, some nights until the early hours of the morning, all for you. Would it really hurt people just to say 'Thanks ever so much for working very very hard this week', because at the moment all I can see is a load of selfish players, though not all of you are of course :) but a lot of selfish players who just think for themselves.

Non-Varium gear released - Loads of Varium players through a mardy, for goodness sake, be happy for them! Your releases will come, and Varium players do have an advantage, so no need to moan.
Varium gear released - Same the other way around.

I mean come on guys, you moan about everything - people say that they will stop moaning when good releases start coming - to me that is a bit pathetic and slightly immature. Every week something is released for players: Juggernaut battles - Stop moaning, no one said 'YOU HAVE TO BUY THIS MODE', don't like it, don't buy it, simple. Already bought it, then tough, you could have waited to see the comments on the forum, or asked someone else about it. Stun guns - You're not paying $50 for the guns, you're paying for the Varium, the guns are an added free bonus! Don't want them, don't get them, again, simple.

Each release will either be your cup of tea, or it won't - let's be honest, it's impossible to please all of you (Don't care what you say, it is liturally impossible). When a release is something you don't want, just stick to what you have, be happy for those who do want it! Don't moan and tell the Devs the release is rubbish, when really a lot of players are happy with it, and you're just being selfish, wanting every release to be good for you. What you want isn't always going to be what happens, what you want could be what others would hate to happen. You have to accept that the game is so big, with such a small team, they have to focus on one group of players at each time, they can't please you all. Just accept that, please, thanks.




LambO -> RE: June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 6:44:33)

@Rainaka. It's because they release things that nobody cares about.
Take for example Fame. Nobody asked for this. You get the same 5 spammers at world 7 Oz begging for it constantly, which does nothing than just annoyes every other player who just want to talk & play. So, keeping 5 players over the whole community happy is a good thing?

The Nerfing & the Buffing. What is this point in it? Yeah, you get some people posting. 'Oh this class is overpowered, they need a nerf.' We get nerfed, week later they bring out Gun & Zooka enhancements to buff us back to where we are. The point in this? This didn't satify anyone, this just wasted our time & our money. We wanted balance, that's all.

The guns situation. You actually have to BUY the 50$ to get the guns, it isn't free even if they say they are. I've brought plenty of 50$ packages, I don't see these guns in my inventory. IF there free & you brought a 50$ package before hand, you should get the guns cause there free with a 50$ package. So it's not. I'm gonna have to pay 50$ to get my varium & the guns, which everyones know, nothing is free.

"The Devs aren't going to pay any attention to you what so ever, you'll just be labeled rude"
I don't want to sound rude, but, when did they start? :o
Only way of getting their attention is for the whole community to be rude towards them. Why they got the suggestion shop coming. - Cause too many people had flame on that day. xD

Just for the record, they have been many more releases which the majority of the community don't like.

LambO




skeletondude -> RE: June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 7:10:51)

ok so i was jus thinking abt it.could DELTA be the next BETA [:)] or could DELTA be the next GAMMA 0.0 (close's eye's too scary)




Lycus -> RE: June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 7:56:59)

@Lambo: I know what you're saying, but for what I think on everyone moaning about fame, view the other fame discussion thread, I think it explains everything there. I also have to disagree with you where the promos come in... In no way should promos be given to those who have bought 10k Varium before to show they are 'free'. The thing is, the guns are in now way better than guns already in-game stat and damage wise, but with a 5% chance to stun. Now I could understand your argument if they were seriously powered up guns, that were by miles the best, but as you kind of said, there are already guns that are just as good.

For that reason it prooves that you're not just paying 50$ for the guns, because if people want guns, they can buy them in-game, just as good anyway. If people want the latest gear, then it is THEIR choice. There's no big sign saying 'To play ED please buy these new guns', it is 100% YOUR choice. You don't want them, DON'T get them, as I said before. The point is, Titan, NightWraith and Char like to add value to the 10K package, making it so people get more out of it, the promos change for all the time since I've been a part of the ED community (That's since just before the merge), there has been something with the 10K package, so everyone has got promos out of it, so all is fair. If someone bought Varium just before this one came out, then they got the Eggzookas.

Basically no one is forcing you to buy anything, it's your choice, you can compete without this gear, so you don't need it - it's just there if you want it!




LambO -> RE: June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 9:14:00)

@Rainaka. I do want them. I shouldn't have to pay yet other 50$ for something that's supposed to be free.
I have varium left from buying a 50$ package last month, why should I need another package?

These so called free items SHOULD be in-game for the people who have already brought 50$ packages over & over.

They are forcing you to buy them. cause if you want these items you're gonna have to pay, which isn't free, even though there supposed to be free, you see.

Sorry about my writing, I'm at work. The keyboards here are just crap.




IsaiahtheMage -> RE: =ED= June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 10:06:33)

What are you guys talking about? GAMMA is AWESOME!!! We all love it!




vliegs -> RE: June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 11:09:35)

To reitterate Xen....

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Please please PLEASE consider implementing at least some of the stat balancing suggestions in my previous thread before implementing new classes.





Sageofpeace -> RE: June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 11:40:30)

again there few things that i wanted to be sure, if they are going to make us pay for a new class just for testing at least the fair time to make non varuim should be a year. since it seem that they are so cheap that won't reward us with a fair compensation like a weapon. putting that aside @rainaka while is true that is a small team i don't think is appropriate to promise so many stuff don't make them or make them uncomplete like 2v1 is was promise since a year a go we got ripped to play for a week and it was so unbalance that it was like a new npc mode. im just saying the should stop promising stuff if they are not sure how to make or with out knowing how long is going to take. also lambo may have use sarcasm but no matter how yo see it even if we reply we good criticism they still don't listen to us at all. if 85% wanted something so bad and they didn't listen to us when we ask(forum merging) they won't listen to us is only 60% talk. it doesn't make a difference they still don't listen to us.

another thing that i am really disappointed us is the poor choice of words you and the Dev's choose when replaying to us, how came you say to a person who has spend over 100$ in a game which most of the time is testing with the following words"we aren't forcing you to buy varuim when you do it makes us happy and when you don't we still love your support but if you feel so unhappy with the way the game is going to maybe you should not play the game anymore. we are not asking to make the game perfect but we just wanted our money worth and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT TELL US THE GAME IS FINE AS IT IS BECAUSE IS NOT AND EVEN IF IT IS YOUR JOB OR CINDY JOB TO SHUT PLAYER PLAYERS, WE ARE NOT DUMB WE KNOW WHATS GOING ON.




Sparticus -> RE: June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 12:31:02)

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HeroSmash also has a larger staff than EpicDuel has. They can have bigger weekly releases because there are more people.




Why does this excuse always come up around EpicDuel? Just hire some more people. You've had 2 years to put up some wanted posters. Is good help really that hard to find?



Wanted posters? They did, they are up in the post office.

If you mean "help wanted" posters then the answer is, again, "they did", how do you think Charfade and Cindy got their jobs? They asked for help and got some. The trouble isn't the getting staff its getting AE to pay for it.




Ashari -> RE: =ED= June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 18:01:00)

Design Notes updated with pictures. Wow, these weapons look amazing!




Celestine -> RE: =ED= June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 18:19:29)

From Titan_EpicDuel
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Rolling in 5-10 Min!! Loads of new player suggested weapons!


Can't wait! :)

-Celestine




Evric -> RE: =ED= June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 18:27:01)

Uploading




Polandor -> RE: =ED= June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 18:27:12)

updating




Digital X -> RE: =ED= June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 18:27:25)

And there's the update going on now, anticipation is too much, loads of weapons :D




helloguy -> RE: =ED= June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 18:28:53)

Who is going to have em





Polandor -> RE: =ED= June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 18:29:27)

after looking at their stats, will not buy any...
:(




helloguy -> RE: =ED= June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 18:30:27)

I mean be selling them




Cinderella -> RE: =ED= June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 18:30:33)

It may take a while, since Nightwraith is giving the weapons and cheevos manually.

@above Naomi




Elf Priest JZaanu -> RE: =ED= June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 18:35:45)

For Rainaka: The thing is, the guns are in now way better than guns already in-game stat and damage wise, but with a 5% chance to stun. Now I could understand your argument if they were seriously powered up guns, that were by miles the best, but as you kind of said, there are already guns that are just as good.


From the reasonings your provided is expected from what a Mod would explain. I will respect it, but I cannot agree with it.

These new guns should be available in-game, and all promos should be available in-game for a reasonable price. Why, because we (the players) should have the choice to buy them in-game not to have a choice to spend another $50 to spend to get them free to have varium sitting doing nothing. I should have the right to choose what I wish to buy, not be target of spending extra money for one exclusive after another and another. This has been a repeated pattern.

The game needs to evolve beyond weapon promos. Feature based promos will keep the in-line and create less hostility. Enticing players with "new money" promos to being more powerful needs to stop.

As I provided in another thread is old money in this game is taxed heavily while new money is treated highly. This is not considerate to players who have paid before. For every angle any mod including yourself has provided, I can equally defend from the customer's perspective. Unlike most are younger demographics, I am well aged and understand patterns very clearly.

As this post ends, here will be my quotes to ponder
Choice to spend
Choice to support

Which is more important to you as a customer and what is more important to you as a business person? Bottom line, if I am doing business, Choice to Support is more important. Why? It is because supporting any cause or reason means, it is about believing.

My apologies for being difficult, but I don't like I hear the same rhetorical line about the Inflation within this game as "Choice" which honestly, if people "Chose" not to spend, where would the game be. Please don't use this line again. In Hindsight, everyone knows well, the game wants them to spend "New Money".

~JZaanu




LambO -> RE: =ED= June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 18:35:47)

Goodjob ED Team, should make alot of players happy.




Polandor -> RE: =ED= June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 18:42:03)

New weapons :((((
Are very bad varium items, so bad there are not worth buying if you played in the last year.

They look ok, but their stats are very bad, very weak, a lot weaker than current lv 30-32 weapon.

The current best Varium sword give a total of +34 (stats + enhancement) like Frostbane...

The new sword give a total of 29, 5 point lower.

Same with Staff, mace and claw, they give a total of +28, vs the current best at +33.

I wanted to buy a mace and some claw, to change from mage, but it seems I will not buy a single weapon.

The new non varium gun is good.

The other non varium item are lv 32, and lot weaker than low level Mjolnir or Caden...

One non varium fun worth buying out of 16 items.




EDluyil -> RE: =ED= June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 18:54:27)

Love the update!

for non variums this is paradise!
A gun, 14 stats and 32 damage, what else can a non varium ask for???

As for varium items, they give 33 damage without being oped. (in stats)

Thanks devs, for closing the non varium and varium gap a little bit.





Mr. Black OP -> RE: =ED= June 1 Design Notes: Player Suggestion Shop (6/3/2011 18:55:25)

will the suggestion shop be updated more with more suggested weps?




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