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kelvin112233 -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 16:41:34)

Yea i was really enjoying the quests we were getting before... I kinda miss em. Some had really nice rewards :(



Mr. Black OP -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 17:11:58)

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Ok what about you Zman do you want new class free for everyone or varium only to buy change class. I wasn't sure about you either.

i would prefer both options one for credits that would be real time consuming (100k+) and 1 for varium i would reduce it to 1250 so u could get it with smallest varium pack (anyone else think more then $10 is a lot to pay for a class change?) so nvs get something and variums get something 2, and also full variums like myself will get the chance to class change even when we no longer have varium, so basically all the players will benefit, variums with varium left, non variums, and variums without any left
also even if u think 100k isnt a lot u also have to buy a new armor, enhancements and possibly a new primary aux and gun to better suit ur build which could go over 300k-400k and to get that kind of credits would involve more then 10k wins



goldslayer1 -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 17:16:15)

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i would prefer both options one for credits that would be real time consuming (100k+)

thats what i said but apparently a non var wanted the easy way out with 50k.
dont get me wrong i mean i think there should be a credit class change option but for 100k-150k credits that way they dont happen too much. i mean non vars ask urself this would u like to have a credit class change even tho it will cost alot of credits or would u rather not have anything at all?
remember class changes are optional so u dont have to get them.

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also even if u think 100k isnt a lot u also have to buy a new armor, enhancements and possibly a new primary aux and gun to better suit ur build which could go over 300k-400k and to get that kind of credits would involve more then 10k wins

exactly its like they dont think ahead.



The UnleaShedWolfZ -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 17:43:27)

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The evolved classes work the same way current class changes work!


He might mean that u can change ur class from M4tr1x (NPC) and that's the same way current class changes work..

There IS a chance to get it without Variums :S




kelvin112233 -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 17:49:09)

If the new classes are stronger than the pre-existing classes, upgrading won't be an option... It will be impossible for free players to gather 100k after varlum players switch to stronger classes because free players won't be able to compete . Farming NPCs isn't a solution because you can only fight 20 NPC/hour and you can only fight the same NPC 5 times/hour. Not to mention NPC battles are 1vs1 so the amount of credits you gain is minimal...

As new gear comes out, free players will not be able to compete while collecting credits because they won't be able to use their credits to get new weapons. If they cannot spend credits on new weapons how wil they even the gap? (an example would be upcoming independence day items)

50k is not a small amount of credits. If you cannot play during power hour 50k credits is equivalent to 1000 2vs2 victories 1000 victories is equivalent to 2250 battles for free players because their win records just cannot match those of varlum players. Also this means that out of all free players only level 33's will be able to upgrade to a new class, meaning lower level players will be completely neglected. The numbers will just get ridiculously large if the price is set at 150k....

I hope you guys understand that Level 33 players only make up a small portion of the community. On the forums most players are high leveled, but ingame there are many more lower leveled players than high leveled players. I just ifnd it quite conceited to make the price over 100k considering there are many players around Level 20. Before they even gather 100k credits newer class evolutions will be released. Also saying that 1.5k varlum is equivalent to 150k is unrealistic Minimum wage in my province is $8.80/hour. With a minimum wage job you can make more than enough for 1.5 varlum/hour, yet 150k credits would take hundreds of hours of farming.... This is why i've been spending my money on AQW instead...



Nexus... -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 18:14:28)

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Make it 75k and I have no problem with it. 50 is a bit to low for an ENTIRE new class. You should really have to work for it. 75k is nice because its right in between too much and too little. With 100k Credits you can get yourself, a new class, a new armor, and a new gun. That seems fair to me.

If their were to be a credit option I would expect it to be no less then 75k.


EpicE4



goldslayer1 -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 18:16:49)

@nexus
100k to 150k
i would be in favor of 150k



Mr. Black OP -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 18:20:28)

@kelv
999999999999999999999999999999 credits is still cheaper then 1 varium as varium costs real money and it is an optional feature so 100k is basically free as it costs no real money unless u plan on but a bunch of 10k packs for the 15k credits to reach that 100k
hundreds of hours of farming? lol some people get 20k a day easy



xxmirxx -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 18:21:08)

Ok 100k fair actually it would be good for varium players. I really mean this these newer non varium are lazy you guys whine about paying for 2vs1 over price of 20k say to experience. Guys get feally I am mage non varium Under power all together but yet I was able to get 21000 wins and win 1vs1 without robot.



kelvin112233 -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 18:32:18)

actually no, varlum players can farm 20k a day; free players can't. i get around 2k at power hours meaning i would have to farm like 20 hours a day to get 20k. Time is money... Obviously you guys haven't lived long enough to know that life is short and farming is a waste of life which is more valuable than money... I play for entertainment. I have enough wisdom to know that i should be spending more time in my real life than in a virtual game. I don't know about you guys.... I'm just bored because my gf is over in Europe with her parents ;(

And no, 1 varlum isn't worth more than 999999999999999999999999999999 credits.... go farm that many credits, give me proof and i'll buy you 1 varlum. Then tell me wether it was worth it or not.



helloguy -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 18:34:51)

And you guys nearly game to the conclusion that it will be varium just now



goldslayer1 -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 18:35:09)

@kelvin
non variums can farm 20k in a day.



Mr. Black OP -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 18:36:28)

any amount of varium costs real life money while credits dont
am i the only 1 who gets this or am i not explaining it right



goldslayer1 -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 18:37:23)

@Zman
i think variums are the only ones who get it.
and if there are variums who dont get it. then thats just sad.



He Who Lurks -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 18:41:25)

You guys do realise that farming requires internet and internet requires paying for internet right?



goldslayer1 -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 18:42:52)

@he who lurks
yup, i wonder how they play ED without using a single dollar.



Mr. Black OP -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 18:44:13)

maybe dial up? isnt that free or really low cost?



kelvin112233 -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 18:44:22)

It take real life time to farm credits >:D or maybe you don't get that? I don't know seems pretty simple to me. Getting real life money also takes real life time, but no where near as much time. But maybe i should explain it to you again IDK tell me if i should or not.

In the amount of time it take to farm 100k credits I could make 10k in real life. Calculate how much varlum 10k real life money gets you....



...Sonya... -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 18:44:52)

@GoldSlayer1:

Ok Dude lets get some things Straight,You Said "I hink it should be 100-150k Because ( Now heres where it gets Funny ) Class Change IS a varium Feature" Ok,Ill Agree Class Change is A Varium Feature.

But Class Evolution Isnt.I wud understand A non-varium player cant go to from mage to bh for free,That Would Cost Varium.

But When they signed Up they knew that if they didint buy varium,they were gonna Stay As "mage" " Hunter " Or " Merc " As I see there not changing From them,There evolving in to the new form. Which Still has " Mage " " Hunter " And "merc " On the end of it ;) Theres the hint !

-Son



Mr. Black OP -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 18:46:43)

so u could get $10k in 5days... can u give ur a boss a resume for me?
and i think thats 2mil varium



goldslayer1 -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 18:47:46)

@sonya
well heres the other thing
if ur gonna class change which isn't worth it even if it was non varium.
for non vars, u need to buy a new armor enhance it, get a new set of weps for thet build and enhance it, class specific weps for that class and then enhancing. so even then ur at a bigger loss.
these are the things u have to worry about when class changing.
its not jyst " i wanna class change!!!"



...Sonya... -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 18:48:17)

Zman : Whilst hes working he cant play ED All day,Meaning it will take him longer time to get the credits meaning longer time to get his 10k $ or £..

-Son



xxmirxx -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 18:48:54)

they can be on school computer and kevin I get 24k in day when I was active. Guys take look kevin page the class update would do nothing for him. http://www.epicduel.com/charpage.asp?id=kelvin112233



goldslayer1 -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 18:49:39)

@zman
ill make a post later of a class change feature which should solve alot of problems for the frequent class changers.
trust me u will love it.



...Sonya... -> RE: New Classes Will Be Varium (6/27/2011 18:50:36)

GoldSlayer1: I Hope You know that TLM and Merc And BM And TM AND CH And BH Are using the same Class specific Weapons , E.G Claws Maul + Staff

Btw Its There choice if they want to get the wep or switch class ;)

-Son



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