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Feral Ninja -> Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 12:28:41)

Wow, long time no see forum. :P

Anyway, I've noticed there's an extreme lack of items for higher levelled players, that includes varium players.

''Yeah, but we have Bunny borg, bunnyzooka and that sort of things!''
Sadly, they are rare. This causes imbalance between players who were around to get it, and players who weren't there.

''Whatever, I mean, you can now get Delta weapons! The strongest weapons ingame!''
First of all, you have to spend 50$ for that (Which exludes Non Varium players and varium players who don't have the money to spend on it right now.), Second They're just weapons. What about robots? What about armor? What about Auxillary Weapons? And what about guns?

To be honest, currently there's an imbalance in the game which surpasses even the class issue. Which (I hope) I've made quite clear.

There's no real balance between classes until you use the same weapons. Only then can you actually say ''Tactical mercs are overpowered!'' or something in that direction.

Take Bunny Borg armor as an example, it's rare. And the strongest armor in the game as of right now... And the most shocking part? There's a 5 level difference between Bunny Borg, and the nearest levelled armor currently in game.
That means armor-wise, those who have Bunny Borg have a 5 level advantage over those without.

So yeah, let's convince the staff about this item issue. ^_^

Hope you guys support. ;)

~Feral



altimatum -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 12:32:32)

4th of july [:)]



Feral Ninja -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 12:35:31)

4th of July - Another seasonal promo.

What I meant to say is that there should be items high levelled players can use WITHOUT the use of seasonal items.

Sure, seasonal items should definately stay a part in the game. But it's causing quite alot of imbalance between those who do have seasonal items, and the items which stay in the game.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 12:44:59)

@feral
i dont think there is imbalance.
first because the bunny/founder with frostbolt eggzooka and frostbite claws can be copied with non rare equipment.
simply use shadow guard armor, boomstick, wraith reavers, double chaingun.
and thats basically a 90%+ str bh build. i seen others use that exact same line up of equipment and they got 90%-95%
so are the imbalances between items?
no
i can use this same exact example for many builds. support merc, support tech mage, focus for all 3 classes.
the only difference is that u will have about 8-16 stats away from a full top notch varium user.
and with these days thats not really much of a different.



PivotalDisorder -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 12:47:58)

bunnyborg is +1 def or res better than space warrior armour which has been restocked a gazillion times already ?
their are varium guns, aux, primaries for every class etc. I dont know what you want. they have to supply weapons
for not only every single level but also for paying players and non paying players.



Feral Ninja -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 12:55:40)

So, let's say 2 level 33's fight with the exact same build.
Yet player#1 has Bunny Borg, The other does not have it.

So basically, Player#1 already has a +1 res/def advantage over player#2... And then adding the stats....

So, who is more likely to win? Player#1.
Is that imbalance? Yes, it is.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 12:56:58)

@feral
well its the other players fault for not being here, not ours or the game.
and they still have a wide selection of items that will help them.



PivotalDisorder -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 13:00:12)

A guy buys a house. another guy comes along and says OMG you bought the best house, I cant get it anymore and
the houses left available all suck by comparison. yeah well hard luck mofo. welcome to real life, it sucks, get over it.



Feral Ninja -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 13:50:16)

It surprises me that so many people whine about classes being over/underpowered, and yet, not see the issue.

It's a game, a game has to be balanced for EVERYONE. This includes people who miss out on stuff. There should always be equal alternatives.



Arturo20 -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 14:01:05)

We really need new non varium energy gun, energy club, energy aux and armor +7 or +8 def/res.



edwardvulture -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 14:43:40)

You could still get over 100 stats with varium weps. I don't see why your complaining. If you really knew how to play this game then the plus 1 def wouldn't matter much First initiative would matter a lot more



Feral Ninja -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 14:46:30)

An imbalance is an imbalance no matter how you see it.



AQWPlayer -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 15:03:01)

Classes are unbalanced :P
First, blood mages have a messed up skill tree. Second, there is no good staff with good damage and support modifers. The devs are clearly biased against the mage class.



supermasivo -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 15:14:15)

u are very wrong @Feral i cant understand why u say +1 def or res from an armor could give u the victory? IS NOT ALL ABOUT ARMORS! is about brain use and strategy, and boosters, and lucky, and criticals, and blocks, and weaps and side, and aux... a lot of kind of things u just cant even think... ppl with bunny armor have been pwned by lower armor :S its not a 100% prob game dude.



Feral Ninja -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 15:41:15)

I used Bunny Borg as an example.

Better equipment doesn't assure a victory, of course not. I have not stated otherwise.

Better equipment = Better chance of winning

AKA...
Those with rare equipment have more chance on winning then those without. = Imbalance.



edwardvulture -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 15:58:52)

@AQW Player: Sucks that you missed celtic clover staff but that is life.
@Feral The world is stacked embrace the challenge. Better yet: Stop complaining and THink what its like for nonvariums.



Feral Ninja -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 16:10:04)

If you'd read the first post a bit better, you would realize that I included Non Varium players in there.
And what it's like for Non Varium players? I know how it is, I have a secondary Non Varium account. I know how hard it is.

And ok, following your logic, Tactical Merc should stay overpowered? Classes should all be useless except for 1 class?
Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

It's a GAME, which means it should be BALANCED. This is especially the matter with PVP games.



edwardvulture -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 17:05:06)

I was keeping it to just items. Since this is a game yeah they should remove hybrid from tact mercs.



PumKing -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 17:10:19)

@Feral Ninja, your words truely speak of wisdom, however, I wouldn't worry overmuch, the devs have recently made many new non-var weps, auxs and guns for higher lvl non-vars, and I think that trend is going to continue, especially with the 34 lvl cap coming, which I believe will lead to more lvl 32 and 33 non-var weps, however, I don't believe that any more non-var armors will appear any time soon, because the devs don't care overmuch for non-var because they don't pay for the game



Bunshichi -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 17:10:31)

^ A mercenary has never had 2 passives

Bounties: shadow arts, bloodlust
Mages: reroute and deadly aim

Why don't they give blood mages blood shield :p



Agiluz -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 17:29:26)

quote:

Bounties: shadow arts, bloodlust
Mages: reroute and deadly aim

Why don't they give blood mages blood shield :p


but bloodmages already got technician so they need reflex boost atleast



H4ll0w33n -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 17:37:37)

well thats the point of rares, they are stronger than normal items and are limited time. if normal items were just as good as rares, then there would be no point to get rares.



Tiago X -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/1/2011 18:58:10)

As a PVP game there can not be a "perfect" balance , no matter how good you think you probably are at doing maths. : )



PivotalDisorder -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/2/2011 11:39:03)

As a PVP game there can not be a "perfect" balance, but their can be an obvious imbalance that needs to be addressed.



Feral Ninja -> RE: Lack of items for higher levelled players? (7/2/2011 19:41:44)

There's a 5 level difference in a rare armor, and the nearest other armor.

Obvious imbalance? yup.



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