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xxmirxx -> Well, to my surprise, no one is willing to help me and Gold (7/12/2011 17:38:29)

http://forums2.battleon.com:80/f/tm.asp?m=19278283&mpage=1&key=& they tell us we were not allow to discuss suggestion and we only do it by pm. So I try it I pm 20 people so far and gotten all of them to read it. but only 6 to reply. Do you see how it fails there way. Your probably wondering whats this has to with ED. Well I tell you many of are ideas came from here. 2vs1 bosses fights, 2vs1, choose your own 2vs1 parnters came from lord fred. class change price changing to lower cost and free class change for non varium. Enhancement for non varium and many more. So help us by support us the staff don't care.




edwardvulture -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 17:46:37)

Read dragonfable's design notes. It could apply to epicduel.




Fay Beeee -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 17:49:45)

Mir.
I did reply on the original post.




xxmirxx -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 17:51:01)

I read it doesn't mention ED side will be fix or planning on it read post 2 on my linq. http://dragonfable.com/gamedesignnotes/message-from-circe-1020
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Mir. I did reply on the original post.
I know so I appreciate and those who reply. I send this to goldslayer. Ask him to read this and reply back to me because I don't see it how ED infect this.




goldslayer1 -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 17:58:37)

quote:

One of our favorite things about DF is the relationship between the designers and the players. There's a good rhythm there, a lot of back and forth that is so rewarding. The two most noticeable markers of that relationship are the discussion in the GD and the suggestions in DF Suggestions. As the game changes and as our responsibilities to it change, we've discovered that the old way of taking suggestions doesn't always work. We want there to be more feedback and more interaction, but we also want it built around discussion - around the exchange of ideas. This prompted us to come up with ways we could blend suggesting with discussing.

To that end, DF Suggestions will be eliminated by July 1st. Make sure you save all your work stored in that forum to your private computer!

On July 1st, DF Suggestions will disappear and special suggestions threads will appear in the DF GD! Members of the game and forum teams will be posting threads soliciting specific feedback from the players to improve or supplement the game. While this does mean that we're not allowing players to submit any suggestions they want anymore, it also means that we're going to utilize General Discussion forum to get player participation channeled in a way that makes it more meaningful to game design.

We appreciate your patience (and tolerance!) during this period of upheaval and look forward to seeing your ideas!!

so to make long story short DF gets to discussed suggestions in the GD but ED doesn't. DF has a special forum to discuss suggestion and get feedback ED doesn't. it needs to change.




Fay Beeee -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 18:06:14)

OK
So why not change your title now.
To
Discussion on a Suggestion Sticky for Ed Forums
or something like that?

I think it would generate more feed back from the forums. Especially if it was in a sticky. As each person could ask what people thought of their idea.

Just a thought.




goldslayer1 -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 18:08:08)

@fay bee
but as one of the mods said, the admins aren't interested.
which i find really unfair as they didn't even come chat with us about it.




ND Mallet -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 18:09:17)

@Gold The way I read that DN is that DF is getting their suggestions limited to what the Mods decide is important for fixing the game and improving it.




Fay Beeee -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 18:13:11)

So then pm the suggestion through the channels. Keeping it polite, no whining and reasonable.
If you believe in something, surely it is worth fighting for.

Moaning and whining about it gets no where.

I am not saying you are moaning and whining, just saying that you win more with sugar than lemons. :)




xxmirxx -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 18:25:13)

Well I fay as always I like input and I am willing to let mods just delete flaming post. As far we should have input about way we want discuss are suggestion we should. Because as we know ED most expensive AE game. So there shouldn't be point say we can't. Even Nw said they use are out put. So if we do pm way tell me how would know. If majority likes are suggestion we won't know now or they won't too. As Nw says to pm he doesn't get time read all pm weekly. I know your going say cindy but I test her out today and she fail.




Wraith -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 18:27:40)

I replied with a block of text, read it alreadeh...




goldslayer1 -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 18:31:25)

quote:

The way I read that DN is that DF is getting their suggestions limited to what the Mods decide is important for fixing the game and improving it.

see thing is its a step by step. u cant jump from 1 to 3 without going thru 2.
basically the mods wont know if its an important suggestions unless it gets feedback and the suggestions becomes better and better every time someone gives feedback.

@fay
sorry fay im trying to do whatever is possible to get this issue known to the admins and hopefully they will do something about it.

and mallet yeah i do believe important suggestions should be there.
(not like hun's idea of giving blood mages a double armor with + 9 res and +9 def.)
but whos to say the imptance of a suggestion should be determined by a mod?
maybe that mod is biased. so when someone says "bh is OP, it needs a little tweaking" that mod goes shuts them down and say merc is the OP one. (not saying this actually happens, but basicaly im to say it should be players deciding if its important or not)




Chosen 0ne -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 18:36:07)

you never PMed your buddy chosen???[:(][:(][:(]




xxmirxx -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 18:36:58)

fay I am not trying to flame you or staff. But just point out there flaws and not there when need there out put to help us. Lord I reasd post about ED sorry I use some of your words.




goldslayer1 -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 18:38:21)

@chosen
lol man i dont like using that PM system.
tell me how usefull will PMing be when ur inbox is full and u cant receive any messages?
everyone knows using PMs would keep it in the dark. but when u make a thread anyone that includes non registered mems can read it.
it is much easier to access. and u wont get annoyed by the "u got a pm" sign




xxmirxx -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 18:45:05)

And most don't reply back because fear of fame. But if your on my side plz help me and gold. figtht for are rights. ps this isn't about fame.btw So how many of you made great idea but delete off because deem it to be suggestion. And to make it worst wouldn't post in right section. and just give you linq like this. http://forums2.battleon.com/f/tt.asp?forumid=332




Chosen 0ne -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 18:52:20)

We can do this by creating multiple topics basicly about the same thing in forums suggestions. Please do this if you have the time. :)


Heck post it all over on every board, some admins finaly gonna do somthing about it if we keep complaining.




goldslayer1 -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 18:53:55)

im sure if MANY players suggest for this to be change the admins will eventually have to evaluated it with reason.
and then most likely fix this dilemma




Chosen 0ne -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 18:54:44)

^i suggest to start posting now.

Link to forum suggestions

http://forums2.battleon.com/f/tt.asp?forumid=273




goldslayer1 -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 18:57:48)

http://forums2.battleon.com/f/tm.asp?m=19279073
hey guys see that thread?
thats a suggestion? how long before that gets locked and we cant discuss it?
how long do player's threads have to get locked? when they are discussions.




rej -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 18:59:25)

you're making a topic... about supporting a topic?

this is bound to get locked

and i allready repplied to the mentioned topic.




goldslayer1 -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 19:00:39)

@rej
thanks for ur support buddy.
but this is a topic about changing the way this forum deals with suggestions specially in the GD




Chosen 0ne -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 19:01:11)

goldslayer, within 30 minutes, it won't have a chance!




xxmirxx -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 19:06:40)

Well guys weather you hate or not do for ED community. Lets bring back old ED forums . if we had old way of post suggestion and discuss it there would be more respect less flamiing trolling and respect to are staff.




Chosen 0ne -> RE: Well to my suprise theres no one help me and gold. (7/12/2011 19:08:36)

^were you around at the time to old EDF was here??? Just wondering.




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