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Angels Holocaust -> Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 14:51:29)

I'm surprised to see that tactical mercs are still a good class. Sorry that I've been away for such a long time, but I have to comment on this issue. Our class was nerfed and we're still playable, great job testing team. You made us playable and balanced at the same time. I must admit, removing super charge or energy rain for assimilation would be better for the class. Discuss my friends.




...Sonya... -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 14:57:02)

Yes Im Glag TaM Stayed This Way But We All know the Other Classes Need a "little" Buff.

You know that aswell Angels!

-Sonya




TTG Sean -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 14:58:11)

Your Just Happy your Still OP.




TurkishIncubus -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 14:58:58)

Str TLM has lower ratio than 5 focusers but its fast

BH and BM are best 5 focusers in my opinion

TM is good for fun Supp build

Merc lost behind the shdow of TLM

CH is the most useless thing i ever seen , they got 1 passive and its Shadow Arts (with 42 supp req).

My total view: Only CH needs a buff the others are fine and balanced , also dont forget this game is 90% luck , Str Tac Merc is the most risky class i ever seen anything can happen in anytime , the build is based on luck.




TTG Sean -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 15:00:35)

Turk Yes, Tac Merc Focus AND Strength Builds are Still Not Nearly Balanced CH Needs a Buff.




TurkishIncubus -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 15:03:52)

^ No i mean TLM is balanced , CH needs Buff

Str TLM got fast wins with best 92% , if you compare with 5 focus builds with 95-96 % than 5 focus is OPED :/ , if the Str TLM's % decrease to 80's than no body will use the complete class.

4/6 classes has best build as 5 focus , if str TLM nerfed than 5/6 classes will use 5 focus , so annoying and boring.




Angels Holocaust -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 15:04:10)

I think cyber hunters are pretty much balanced. It's mainly the blood mage class which is pretty much uped. They need good shields like defense matrix, and energy shield to make them balanced along with assimilation.




TurkishIncubus -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 15:06:23)

^ idk angels , Rexlex + Technician seem more strong for me , Reflex increase connect and block chance , Technician increase Robot dmg.Both skills are awesome for tank 5 focus.Also it got 2 good passives Bloodlust and Deadly aim.




goldslayer1 -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 15:10:13)

i have to agree with turk.
str tac merc is so luck based. its like 1 second ur hitting the next second ur getting blocked 3 in a row.
ice wolf X barely managed to get 90% with it and he's got a pretty good build with good items.
and 5 focus anything will be high on %.
to me tac mercs are balanced. but for some reason some biased merc hater started this whole thing of "remove hybrid p0x" and started riots about it all over the forums.
bloodmage is fine. i see people getting good % with it. and they have good builds.
now its only cyber hunter that needs a little buff.




Nebula -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 15:21:09)

Angels, Tac Merc wasn't crippled. It was hardly touched. Toxic Grenade was far too poweful compared to Venom Strike, so its damaged being lowered is understandable. Frenzy... well if any Tac Merc other than a Support One has no Club they're stupid.




TurkishIncubus -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 15:40:34)

Also ppl say BM is uped because Devs announced BM class as a primary related/str builder class , than most ppl thought it should be good with str build but no BM is balanced with 5 Focus and its not a str class.

I dont understand why ppl try str build with BM it has no debuff + nothing that improve defense , with a str build they are just open target.




Firewallblast -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 15:46:41)

Ch needs a buff and 1 more passive. BM is a good class with super high str, defences dont go for that class. Why would BM need a debuff skill? Str mercs were fine without a debuff why should BM not?




AQWPlayer -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 15:48:41)

^
Mercs were fine without debuff cause they had a PASSIVE shield to cover their defenses.




Feral Ninja -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 15:49:06)

Tac mercs are still overpowered.

Tac mercs have everything for all builds... And they are super good at it aswell.
Want to tank? Hybrid+Reroute+Frenzy+heal
Want super fast battles? Smoke+Double Strike+Frenzy
Want to tank/do damage at the same time? Hybrid+Reroute+Poison+heal

Tactical mercs ARE overpowered. They have pretty much the best from from every base class... >_>

Personally I would remove either Reroute or Hybrid. Though I'm more inclined to saying reroute since Hybrid is something more for merc types...

Cyber Hunter is in need of a very serious buff. Either Static Charge made passive or giving them Reroute would help a huge bit. Also, a new ''actually strong'' energy weapon is also needed since they have Malf.




ND Mallet -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 15:50:52)

@Turkish Why do people make a str build for BM even though it has no defense buffs or nerfs? Why do Mercs make str builds even though they have no defense nerfs? Why do BH's make str builds even though they have no defense buff they could work into their build? See what I'm getting at here?




Midnightsoul -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 15:57:01)

well, CH now has static charge and it is buffed to 60%. sadly, most ppl dont see how CH should be used but i actually see a strong build with it. all ya gotta do is have emp at 6-7.... XD also, BM seriously good enough. they have reflex boost and thrn technician increases dex... O_O well, then with intimidate and bezerker... :O then blood lust plys the buff of deadly aim?!?! o.O well, then again, no one has that many attribute points... ._.




pokepwner -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 16:02:07)

Well i haven't seen any major poisons builds since the of TLM but i've seen so many strength TLM. Also why do you need a defense buff for a strength build? Don't you need just a defense nef to increase damage?




The UnleaShedWolfZ -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 16:13:47)

@ TurkishIncubus : Man I Was a TLM , Then Got That Nerf On "Use The Maul To Frenzy" "Don't Have The Frostbolt Or The Stun One" So I Changed To Cyber Hunter and It's Fine With 2vs2 Or 1vs1 "But Not STR Mercs Or STR TLMs In 1vs1" And Yh If Ur Sayin It Needs To Be Buffed Then I Agree.

BTW : "42 Supp. Requirement" I Have +90 Supp and +80 Tech and Shadow Arts With Some Dex Help For Stun and Blocks "Chances" And It's Maxed. And The Malf Is Gd With a Lvl 1 Heal "High Supp"

Need 1 Passive Skill Only.




TurkishIncubus -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 16:15:14)

@The ND Mallet Guy

i dont understand what you mean , Mercs got Hybrid which allow them to abuse incredibly high str , Hunters got Smoke that decrease dex , BM got nothing its not usefull for Str build




Wraith -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 16:18:46)

Tac merc is perfectly balanced x.x not balanced, but just a teeny bit on the strong side. I get 93%+ against them, all you have to do is Reflex Boosts against str.




Calogero -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 16:25:00)

@ Turkish that's what I don't get...

BM's are suppost to be the Str class yet here we are yet again shoved toward 5 focus...
with assimilate, we actualy were able to use a STR build




PivotalDisorder -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 16:34:07)

quote:

to me tac mercs are balanced. but for some reason some biased merc hater started this whole thing of "remove hybrid p0x" and started riots about it all over the forums.
awww how cute ^^

yes it was the hate from one biased merc. not a ton of players who are sick of playing against a class that has all the obvious advantages.

you sound scared homie




The Shadow Dragon -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 16:46:23)

Guys, get used to it. Knowing ED, we will possibly never get the balance we want, because they want us to feed them money, and they themselfs possibly dont know what a balance is,Probbaly in there eyes, a balance is making one class super OP, one class Alright and one class useless. Pay or die, thats basicly all.




ND Mallet -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 16:47:47)

@Turkish BM's don't need defense increases or defense decreases since they have an attack that increases with that is both Unblockable and can't be deflected. Not to mention that Deadly Aim at high levels is between 36-45 str points depending on how much str you have. And unless you have a difference of over 50-60 dex, blocking isn't an issue if you don't rage at the game or anyone for it. Blocks are more likely to happen when you rage from them.




Angels Holocaust -> RE: Crippled but Vey Much Alive (7/18/2011 17:00:15)

@ The Shadow Dragon


There has never been balance in this game. One class will always have the superior win ratio. If one dies another will replace it. It's as simple as that. Nerf's only create power vacuums in the game. Remember when the United States killed Osama Bin Laden? Nothing changed, another terrorist just took over? Same could be said about classes in the game.




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