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One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:02:17)

Angels i support the base of teh idea but the numbers themselfs need a bit of tweaking as to not take away from your followers you cna PM me about my ideas for the numbers


@Razen did you change your color i can actully read it now



goldslayer1 -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:04:10)

@ttg
its 1 stat for each type of weapon
1 extra from armor, 1 extra from gun, 1 extra from aux, and 1 extra from primary
so if u unlock this and buy from that shop its technically 4.
with 4 stats u cant get higher hp or higher defense or support.
or filling in the extra stat u need for the next lvl str/def/res/aux lvl

@OWA
i made the idea and the numbers altho it was inspired by angels.
anyways i think the numbers are good (unless u want to increase it O.o)
and like i said this isn't something an average player should get.
anyways if u have an idea for fixing the numbers feel free to post it here.



Razen -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:05:18)

@OWA: Yeah, I did. I sorta had to. I got a warning about my color. D:

And, seriously, if people want to spend their time to do all of that to get an item with a single extra stat point, why not let them? It's a single stat point. Not a +10 Def and Res difference.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:07:02)

@razen
IKR
those who said not supported are probably people who cant get these reqs.
i mean its only 1 stat/ its not an insane boost where u get like a double bunny borg and like +18 defense or res
people just over exaggerate



ND Mallet -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:07:53)

Not supported in the least bit.

Cost of the armor after finishing all the quests;
260,000 credits
10,300 wins
11,850 tokens

I personally don't see the point of getting the low level armor since you would be past the usefulness of it already by the time you got done with them.



Razen -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:10:35)

@The ND Mallet Guy: Then rebuff the quests requirements to be more fit for each level range given. I would myself, but I'm not that good of a balancer still. [:D]



goldslayer1 -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:11:23)

@mallet
the prices of the armors are regular price like the other weps.

ill explain it to u.
if for example next halloween a new aux comes out with 26 stats being sold at NW or titan
the exclusive shop will sell it for the same price, but 27 stats. same lvl reqs and stat reqs. and same +damage. just an extra stat (probably better if it comes from enhancements)
so if that aux is sold at NW for 10k credits and 1k varium the platinum shop will sell it for the same price.


ok wait u mean to unlock the platinum shop.
the platinum shop isn't for just armors. its for all types of weapons and armors. (angel didn't edit that part)



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:11:42)

Gold im going to hit Bronze shop right here doing all 1v1 and saying you win ever fight against another person your level its 22.4K earnings(no powerhour and based off of 700 fights needed for the set)

but you could just get Junker Armor for 10K and a weapon for between 2K and 3K i dont care how dedicated you are your going for Junker and a weapon not the chain



goldslayer1 -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:14:33)

@OWA
well i didn't take the lvls into consideration yet.
however ill will keep shaping this idea into a good one.
maybe switching the lvl range for the rewards would be good. and making it smaller.
(like 3 lvls)
if u want u can suggest some numbers



Feral Ninja -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:15:21)

Goldslayer... 1 problem with that, that means EVERY SINGLE ITEM has to get another item file, which means DOUBLE the file size needed.
AKA, let's say there is 4 GB needed for the items right now... With the exclusive shop this grows to 8 GB.

Yes, active players need something, but not this.

Exclusive (Not overpowered) items? Sure, why not. But not every single item ingame.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:17:49)

let me just give you some numbers to crunch real quick 700 wins needed for Bronze saying you have 0 tokens and start at lv 1 thats 8.4K EXP which is lv 29 working towards lv 30 so the ranges are fine the work needed needs some tweeking

http://www.epicduelwiki.com/index.php/Experience

use that link for number crunching



Angels Holocaust -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:19:33)

My friends, we should not fear a challenge but embrace it. The gift is the mystery, ever heard the saying patience is a virtue?



goldslayer1 -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:21:31)

@feral
well its only for new weps not every wep. why would the shop put in a lvl 1 wep?

i think people are just looking for excuses. u can simply have a special access card (gold/silver jugg card maybe?) to unlock the bronze shop that costs varium or heavy credits. the varium should be enough to pay for new bandwidth.

and angel
instead of "armors" just put item/gear since this is for all types of items.
even bikes and maybe some non var robots.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:23:39)

Angels while that is true why should we challenge a lv 29 when the reward is that of a lv 20



goldslayer1 -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:26:00)

@OWA
actually ill rework the wins. and make a heavy platinum shop quest chain seeing as it is lvl cap gear.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:28:37)

Gold let me get you some numbers on the EXP of all the current quest lines before you go about changing it becuase i miss read the wiki so user error

Bronze=lv 23 with 700 wins
Sliver=lv 27 with 1500 wins
Gold=lv 31 with 3250 wins
Platinum=lv 33 with 12,000 wins(not counting all the 100K gear)

So minus the gear part platinum seems spot on with double the EXP needed to be lv 33



goldslayer1 -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:31:41)

@OWA
well remember that some gear will be good even at high lvls.
take a look at mjolnir or caden's wrath they are low lvl gear but used at high lvls. atleadt for non vars.
anyways i may re do the requirements for the small quests on bronze silver and gold.
but make more heavy quest on platinum.



Chosen 0ne -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:33:20)

Heck no. I just bought the $10.00 pack. Im waiting to spend 995 varium
and about 22k credits



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:35:39)

to my findings Gold and platinum are spot on silver is just a spot high of lv 25 so that is fine but bronze needs a small amount of tweaking say drop teh token requirement from 500 to 400 and everything should be spot on

600 wins required for bronzes saying you start at lv 1 would put you at lv 21 so your reward will be worthwhile



goldslayer1 -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:37:20)

@owa
u forget there are other quests that give u token.
u can get like 700 tokens from other quests. and u basically get wins for those.

the wins and tokens were actually really rough estimates i didn't calculate the wins X exp for the lvl.
altho it those look good.

OHH BTW
all promos that aren't sold ingame should be sold in the platinum shop as a perk.
so weps like stun guns would be sold ingame in the platinum shop.
this makes it even more worth while



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:41:45)

like i said gold im basing it off of you are starting from lv 1 and focusing sololy on these quests but you are correct you could do teh Token quests to save you a handful of fights but it was a varible i did not want to calculate becuase you have to show the extremes to test if they are possible or more importantly the challenge is fitted to the target range



ND Mallet -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:43:43)

You can only have one quest at a time so while you're get those 12 kills for the token missions you still have to get the wins from the other quests.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:45:07)

@mallet
the quests can be changed around to fixx that.
but eiehter way u do wins on 1st quest item turn in on second and tokens on third with wins for the 4th.
and then on the next chain wins again then tokens.
so u build up tokens. in the end u should have enough tokens.


im hoping i can get more feedback on this. people seem to not like it :/



Feral Ninja -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:47:47)

To be completely honest... The ''wins'' factor is unfair.

How about those who 2 v 2 instead of 1 v 1?
Why should it always be 1 v 1 that gets all the better things?



goldslayer1 -> RE: Improved Armor Discussion (7/19/2011 20:49:56)

ok then we switch the system of for the wins.

1 vs 1 win = 1 point
2 vs 2 win = 2 points
switch the win requirement to points and u get 1 point for a 1 vs 1 win and 2 points for a 2 vs 2 win.



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