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Evric -> Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 8:23:58)

they are still to Op
cmon.....smoke.... frenzy/stun.........stun frenzy......strike.....die



Basicball -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 8:42:50)

http://forums2.battleon.com/f/tm.asp?m=19328054



Evric -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 8:52:56)

Their still to OP !!



Basicball -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 9:01:55)

though they won't be nerfed



AQWPlayer -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 10:18:25)

^
They will if enough people complain about TLM



Lenofor -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 10:20:09)

I prefer the "buff the others" idea



Basicball -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 10:29:33)

same



AQWPlayer -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 10:30:14)

I prefer the "nerf the TLMs until they can never recover idea" just like the devs did with tech mages.



Wraith -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 10:32:07)

^Except the maimages HAVE recovered. They aren't up, just a teeny bit on the weak side. I prefer buff I g rather than nerfing, however, it isn't my decision :-) .



Basicball -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 10:34:22)

sigh... some people don't have a brain i guess



The Astral Fury -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 10:40:15)

aqw@ alot of people have already complained there have been alot of posts on nerfing and the unblancing of the tlm and they still havent done it



Elf Priest JZaanu -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 11:26:22)

People do have a brain, if you're suggesting their thoughts are not of intelligence about this class, then you're wrong.
I have posted my statements about this class, I but with my reasonings, do I have less of a brain? These classes were designed for new sales. Tactical Merc is designed for Sales. By having the most attractive powerful/flexible class, it introduces new sales.

Either this class looses some of their laying skills, or the other classes must gain new competitive skills for build flexibility as well. It doesn't matter which perspective from this class or the other classes, it is still the "same" issue.

Do be kind in how your phrase your sentences. Trying to indirectly to prove your point by offending others is quite inconsiderate.



Basicball -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 11:40:13)

i wasn't trying to offend something, but do feel like flamers should be burried and then nuked :S

and continuing o nerf, will have as result that a lvl1 could beat a lvl 33 (though we're a long way from there)



Evric -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 11:46:20)

Take-Hybird from Tlm
OR.....Give all these to the classes below

Give-Energy Shield to Merc
Give Mage Hybird
Give CH Reoute
Give Bh Frenzy
Give BM Smoke



Elf Priest JZaanu -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 11:55:00)

If a player is unhappy or upset, how do you wish them to respond?
I have came across many players in this game who are not happy with this class. I tell them to be patient with the reasons I have given above.

Some prefer not to hear negative comments, but for me personally, if you have any opinion to say, do speak.

Many of the opinions I read are valid from their perspectives, and should be listen too.

If a player chooses to vent without reason or consideration of others, then those individuals should likely need time to focus before posting.




Basicball -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 12:00:42)

quote:

If a player is unhappy or upset, how do you wish them to respond?


say ' i'm sorry, but X isn't completely what it should be, making it like Y could greately enhance the game, and might be a good alternative.
feel free to use it if you want o, thouh if you thik th wy i is nnow isbetter, you don't have to change it :^) '



PivotalDisorder -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 12:09:16)

dont like any of your ideas Evric lol.

why would BH need frenzy ? a move that gives back health, and bloodlust would do it too.

cyber hunters dont need reroute, they have static shock. they do need a new skill though [I posted one in suggestions]

taking hybrid off tactical mercs is worth a try, but I still dont think Blood Mages need it, they have reflex boost.

mercs have blood shield which works really well if you know what your doing, so why do they need energy shield. they have hybrid too,
i cant even imagine how op they would be with 20+ resistance for 12-15 energy.

blood mages have skills that ignore defence and resistance like mercs did, so they dont need a debuff like smoke.



Remorse -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 12:14:52)

I agree with evric.

And although not good in most cases this problem should be solved with a nerf.

It's not practical to buff all other classes (don't forget the old ones) up to TLM standard. Not only that but if they did they would be breaking the usaly class template structure and would proberley have more future balance problems then if they just Nerfed TLM properly!!

For all you TLM out their don't be scared of a nerf. It may not be a cripiling thing . It may not even have a diffremce in the win % you get with this class. The point is it will hopefully only change the qualities which I think make it Oped which includes:

-Being to easy to spam.
-Allows those to get away without using startagy and smarts to get a high win %.
-Has potential Oped builds which can be abused.
-Lets any player get a decent win% even without tryining

If you are smart and TLM are nerfed it shouldnt effect how well this class is for you , what it should do is make you try harder with it.
Now tell me does that sound so bad??



TurkishIncubus -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 12:35:31)

If ppl want to nerf a non Oped class just because they cant win it , than nerf it , it will cost me 900 varium or 50k credits to change the new fast class.

Also dont forget this game is 90% luck and Str TLM always be the unlucky side, my oponents do 2-3 crits , 2-3 blocks and lots of deflects.

Today i lost against almost every class , if they can win , you can win too.



ajs777 -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 12:36:56)

quote:

though they won't be nerfed

sorry but you have no right to say that for sure



Basicball -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 12:42:26)

why not?



ajs777 -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 12:45:54)

you said in a different thread ashari has no say in these things and she is a freakin mod (who stalks me in game just waiting to ban me) yet you go around all confident knowing whats gonna happen



Basicball -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 12:52:15)

again, please quote me saying that



Larcell -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 12:59:08)

I think someone mentioned this before: TLM skill tree gives them A LOT of build choices. Posion, smoke, strength builds, atom smash builds *cough*, so removing something will not really affect TLM. This is the way classes should be like; so instead of nerfing a class, raise the other classes to mimic that "op" class. Yeah, I heard it a thousand times, it's much easier to nerf one class than buff the others. Well, buff those classes, i.e. BM, CH, etc, will guarantee more opportunites, instead of the Copy 'n' Paste builds we see all the time.



Evric -> RE: Nerf the TlM MORE!! (7/21/2011 13:03:39)

@ Jeha

It was an example



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