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TurkishIncubus -> Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 14:36:24)

Improved Factions and Faction War !


First of all , as we know our faction war system is completely useless and ED is not rewarding 1vs1/2vs2/WD won factions.Also i think most of you asked to yourself some of these questions:
What is the difference between 1lvl faction and 12 lvl faction ? , What is the importance of winning 1vs1/2vs2 faction champs ? or What is the importance of Warkills ? , the answer for all is NOTHING.

So i decided to write some of my ideas that will improve game.

1- Improving The Importance of Faction 1vs1/2vs2 Champs

The best way of making these champs more important is a credit system mixed with faction level.

For every 1vs1/2vs2 faction wins:

Leader will get : (Faction Lvl) x 1500 credits
Officers will get : (Faction Lvl) x 1000 credits
Members will get : (Faction Lvl) x 750 credits

They will get their rewards at the end of the day (at reset)

2-Improving The Importance of World Domination

The Faction that get the WD means that they are the best faction so they should be highly rewarded.First of all WD should change daily to weekly.We have daily 1vs1 and 2vs2 champs no need to have more daily things and making it weekly will be more fun.Ofcourse Players of the winning Faction will recieve a high reward for Dominating the World.

The World Dominated Faction's Members will get :

  • 25,000 credits for every member

  • A Special Domination Armor for 1 week ( Same stats with Founder and +9) (It will be a Golden armor looks more godly than founder armor)

  • Golden Char name for 1 week(It will be same with current Devs has) (Devs Name color can be change to Blue/Red)


3-Balancing/Improving the Warkills/Faction War

a)Few changes :
First of all Faction War will be same like we got now the only difference is changing it to weekly.

Currently we have 3 options to do Warkills 1)With Varium 2)With Credits 3)Player wins , well i want to add a 4th option with Tokens. When Faction war will be weekly and rewarding beautifull things Warkill will change luxury to a need , everybody cant afford to do Warkills so Token Kills will be reasonable. Tokens will be like fuel for factions , they need to protect their flags and do warkills to bring the WD to their allignment.

You know how Varium / Credit Warkills Working so Tokens warkills will work 1 Token = 1 Warkill.

Now i want to mention to Allignment Victories (Exile / Legion) , reinforcements should be completely removed this has to be a fair fight for everyone and wining allignment's factions in war board will recieve 10k credits for every members.

Flag Capture will change too , 1st Faction will recieve 200 inf/hour 2nd will recieve 100 inf/hour 3rd will recieve 50 inf/ hour , only first faction will have 50 token tax per hour.

b)How Faction War will work:

Every reset all Faction's influence and Warkills Exile/Legion will be 0 (everybody will race in same conditions) , Influence will be determined by :
  • Player's wins(1vs1 5 inf per battle , 2vs2 10 inf per battle)
  • Flag Capture

and War Kills will be determined by:

  • Player's Wins(1 win = 1 Warkill)
  • Varium Warkills(Many options)
  • Credit Warkills (10,000 credits = 100 Warkills)
  • Token Warkills (1 token = 1 Warkill)

At the end of the week , Wining Allignment's Highest Influenced Faction will recive WD.



Sipping Cider -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 14:44:37)

Sounds awesome, yet maybe a little to much on the rewards. Plus, at this point in time only your factoin, Control Alt Death is really winning everything



TurkishIncubus -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 15:06:18)

^ Thats because there is no rivalry , what will other factions get doing 2k-3k wins and pass us ? Nothing so they dont even try it.



Snaipera -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 15:09:53)

First of all , I think that warkills need to be fixed . Losing one 0 after all the values should do the trick . So when firing a non-varium weapon , you will get 10 warkills . Also ,the achievement changes from 1000 required to 100 required (this is because a whole day's labor could be diminished by just 1 click of money....)

Second of all , rewards are just too much . A simple 5000 credit reward for everything would be just fine.

Last but not least , the ones donating tokens should get achievements ,not too expensive . 500 rating points per achievement would be alright.



DeathSpawn -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 15:48:39)

Lets not make a leader get too much more than the others though as everyone already wants their own facs making it extremely difficult to put a good one together.



Feral Ninja -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 16:08:52)

Agreed with the suggestions mostly....

HOWEVER, there are some things I question...
1) Isn't the amount of credits/warkills a bit high?
2) Ehem...CAD would still get all those rewards... >_< Let's not make some factions even more powerful, mk?
3) Isn't it better to just add a Faction Shop of some sorts? That pretty much only opens if a certain level is reached?



edwardvulture -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 16:13:07)

No the factions are stacked right now. It needs to change.



Lord Barrius -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 16:13:39)

Thank you!

This is precisely the sort of posting that I like to see: honest, constructive criticism with a discussion of the problem and proposed solutions. This is precisely the sort of posting we want to see so much more of in EDGD.

I'll forward this link to the ED devs to look at. Mind, this does not guarantee that they will agree or anything, but since you have taken the time to carefully express your views in a very positive and helpful manner, I will try to get your thread some attention.

Thanks again, and to all EDGD users: this is the sort of model posting that we want to see in EDGD. Keep it up! [:)]



DeathGuard -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 16:14:06)

I think this should be posted in the suggestion thread before it is locked, is so awesome, nice work turkish :P



Feral Ninja -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 16:42:07)

@Lord Barrius
Let's not speak too soon ok, LB? :P There are still some people who'll try to ruin this thread... Just like any other thread.... *sigh*

@Back on topic

Made a small plan for Faction Level a while back, so I looked it up and changed it a bit to fit the more recent times.


Note: These suggestions are for ALL Factions, there is NO Leaderboard requirement!



-Faction Shop-
Sells items (Like armor, weapons, etc.) that can be equipped ONLY if the faction you are currently in is on, or over, a certain Faction Level.

Example: Legion Blade Advanced has a requirement of ''Faction Level needed - 8''. This means any faction under level 8 can buy this item, but cannot equip it.
And those of level 8 and over, can buy this weapon and equip it.



-Faction Bonus-
I was thinking of ''weekly bonusses'' to factions, insted of being on the leaderboards.
Perhaps something like this:

(Leader is 3, Officer is 2, Member is 1)

Faction Level*100*Current status= Weekly Bonus to Credits.

Which would mean for a level 10 Faction:

Leader = 10*100*3= 3000 Bonus Credits a week.
Officer = 10*100*2= 2000 Bonus Credits a week.
Member = 10*100*1= 1000 Bonus Credits a week.

(I was also thinking of a Varium variant to this, but that might not feel good to the devs.)



What also could happen is a weekly ''Xp/Credit/Token % Boost''
(This boost lasts a week.)

For a credit boost this could be like:

(Leaders are 1.3, Officers are 1.15, Members are 1.0)
-All End results are rounded upwards-

Faction Level*0.5*Current Status = Percentage boost per battle.

Which would mean for a level 10 Faction:

Leader = 10*0.5*1.3= 6.5% (Or, rounded up 7%) Credit Boost per battle.
Officer = 10*0.5*1.15= 5,75% (Or, rounded up 6%) Credit Boost per battle.
Member = 10*0.5*1.0= 5% Credit Boost per battle.




Now, I think I've made it pretty balanced. But I'll accept any kind of support/help/suggestions/CC on these ideas. ;)



TurkishIncubus -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 17:16:17)

I see some replies that thinks the amount of credit rewards is too high , well yes they are high for a 12 lvl faction but we should also think lower lvl factions.

If a 1 lvl faction wins the 1vs1 faction champ leader will get 1500 credits which is almost nothing.Also we should think the 12 lvl faction leader and members worked hard to reach 12th lvl , i think approximately 15,000 credits is fine for a 12 lvl faction.

And the WD 's 25,000 credit is realy too less , The world dominant faction (the best faction of the week) have to work too hard for 1 week , they should be ascendant from all other factions in Win / Token / Warkill , its not easy.



Sipping Cider -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 17:35:52)

Well, with these crazy rewards one problem i could see occuring would be one faction wins, everyone in the factoin gets tons of credits, everyone in the faction then spends the credits on battle enhancing stuff such as new weapons, enhancements, and boosters. Then, the next day the faction members are more battle ready and so winning agian is much easier and then this cycle continues....



Feral Ninja -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 17:41:17)

@Above
That's exactly why my suggestion for this is based up Faction Level, not the current Leaderboard status.



Sipping Cider -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 17:47:17)

Righto, i like your suggestion then. And i just reread the original idea from VIX and i do like many of the ideas (especially the gold name the faction folks get) yet the awesome gear and huge credits amount i still find worrysome.



Zean Zapple -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 17:54:42)

Hah hah hah. I say get rid of faction wars! Factions were better when it was just a group of friends.

~Zean



Feral Ninja -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 17:59:42)

Personally, I think if there are rewards based on Faction Level, there will be more people joining factions and trying their best to get their faction to a higher level.

Why? Because there is a reward.



beastmo -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 18:04:31)

Disagree the no life faction like cad for example would get all the rewards



Sipping Cider -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 19:00:06)

Hmmm, i got an idea. What if every faction got rewards at the end of the week depending on how much influence they had? This way when influence gets reset factions that did not get anything for their hard earned influence will can get something. However, the golden name idea could still be implemented and maybe you get an achievement for being WD so it is more special.



Teufel Hunden -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 19:10:32)

I support this Turk :)!!!

Awesome idea and the rewards will make people become more active which will make more faction become competitive :)



VIX -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 19:22:50)

Supported 500%

That's an amazing idea ! , Very very veryyy nice idea Turkish :D .

-VIX



InceptionAE -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 19:35:39)

@Turkish

Your credit prices are insane. You're just going to cause the entire game expense. As of now, I could get a gun for 12k. With your idea, it would cost well over 25k.



Feral Ninja -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 19:39:26)

Yes, of course it would be awesome to get a butload of free credits/war kills/etc/etc for the top faction (Which conveniently is CAD.... So of course every member of CAD totally agrees. =/)
Why should only a few factions get rewards? What does it help if the current best factions, get even more power and money?

Whatever happens to Factions, it should be for ALL factions.

However, I am not disagreeing on giving the winners a certain amount of credits or something like that. BUT for example this:
quote:

The World Dominated Faction's Members will get :


25,000 credits for every member

A Special Domination Armor for 1 week ( Same stats with Founder and +9) (It will be a Golden armor looks more godly than founder armor)

Golden Char name for 1 week(It will be same with current Devs has) (Devs Name color can be change to Blue/Red)


In order:
1) 25k for every member? That's (If every battle won gives 50 credits) 500 wins. That's just an insane amount.
2) So, just for winning WD, you want the faction who wins WD get the strongest armor EVER so they have an even greater chance on getting the next WD aswell? Not a good idea. At all.
3) So, you want the color devs have? And you want the devs to just change color because you want gold? First off, that's just plain rude. Second, why should devs get blue/red? Why, instead of the devs to change their color, you just get red or blue?

Note@3: Besides, atleast that won't cause confusion among players... If people who don't know about the gold, they might think you are a dev, and who's there to stop them from abusing that power?

P.s. Again, Rewards are fine, as long as they aren't overpowered/too much



VIX -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 19:52:39)

  • @Feral Ninja : Well I agreed cuz it's an amazing idea and i really appreciate this he's thinking about things important making ED better and make players active more and more to get their Goal , and atleast if the devs decided to do Turkish idea they won't do exactly the same thing,They gonna do it and balance it and make it fair to everyone.

    -Thanks
    -VIX



    • Feral Ninja -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 20:05:24)

    Well, Vix.

    I also agree with part of Turkish's ideas, but some of them are just begging for a facepalm move.

    Any ideas we should give should be the ones that are:
    1) Not an overdose of rewards.
    2) Balanced.

    If Turkish can balance some of his ideas and remove or edit some other things (Like the ''I want the color of the devs!'' part.), it could be a great suggestion/discussion post.



    VIX -> RE: Improved Factions and Faction War ! (7/21/2011 20:09:14)

    @Feral Ninja : Well like i said : if the devs decided to do Turkish idea they won't do exactly the same thing,They gonna do it and balance it and make it fair to everyone.

    -VIX



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