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DeathGuard -> Today's Community (7/28/2011 19:56:56)

I have seen many threads flaming founders or viceversa, I remembered of one of the best threads from Soliqe that was ''I deserve it'', he posted a view of what the community was about to become, and I'm afraid that it has already become a hungrier community. Does it really matters to be low level/high level, beta tester/gamma tester, founder/nonfounder and the worst varium/nonvarium, many threads have been based in these examples and it is sad, really sad because the game is not imporving and the community doens't helps. All the flaming and trolling can be controlled and be transformed into positive ideas but we don't focus on other's interest, we, the whole community is being greedy and we won't triumph if we continue this way, I will let it all to you guys, because I'm tired of seeing guys expressing their opinions and being flamed. Flame this thread or whatever you want, but remember, when this games dies, don't say is my fault.



AQWPlayer -> RE: Today's Community (7/28/2011 19:59:38)

Well said. *claps*



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Today's Community (7/28/2011 20:00:45)

Cyber you are right the forums members are becoming jaded from hearing something over and over again or Elitist and thinking they are entitled to something when really the poor kid in say africa is entitled to just as much as them.

but on the other hand the players in the game are the same way wait thats the same hand i guess the other hand is plaers like Fay who dont get involed and only get flamed.


By the way for some reason these topics about flaming/eliltist/ect. needing to end always gets flamed into the dark world of locked



PumKing -> RE: Today's Community (7/28/2011 20:01:13)

The community imulates the place they hang around, their greediness can be easily linked to the greediness of the game, and how unkind it is to so many people (i.e. the glaringing faults of class to class balance)



Lenofor -> RE: Today's Community (7/28/2011 20:01:33)

I honestly don't see flaming treads here, all i see is Founders who do not care for the non variums and want an armor buff.



AxeOFury -> RE: Today's Community (7/28/2011 20:02:41)

I've seen so many threads saying there has been too many threads like that.



H4ll0w33n -> RE: Today's Community (7/28/2011 20:03:29)

completely agree with u



DeathGuard -> RE: Today's Community (7/28/2011 20:09:20)

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I honestly don't see flaming treads here, all i see is Founders who do not care for the non variums and want an armor buff.
Yes I have seen it but they are willing to pay it so I think is a fair deal.

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Cyber you are right the forums members are becoming jaded from hearing something over and over again or Elitist and thinking they are entitled to something when really the poor kid in say africa is entitled to just as much as them.
Yes, they believe in their titles but not in their hearts, is a grave mistake but I'm not anyone to jugde their actions.

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I've seen so many threads saying there has been too many threads like that.
It has to be said many times to the children so they can understand it



redxtra -> RE: Today's Community (7/28/2011 20:10:21)

i agree
yes i have complained about some things but like seeing it pop up over and over again is annoying.
like the issue on lag. we alrdy talked about this before and always someone pops up like "omgz ED needs to fix this lagg"
then the issue on TLM being OPed. like im a CH and im gettin tired of seeing ppl complain about them.
look the ED staff are trying their best to make the game fun and fair for everyone and its not gonna be done any quicker if everyone keeps complaining
and i kno that the ED staff are gettin tired of this. everyday they come on to the forums and have to lock and delete these post.
so just make their lifes simplier and if u have sumthing to complain about either keep it to urself or give a sugguestion on how to fix it in the suggeustion fourm.



Thylek Shran -> RE: Today's Community (7/28/2011 20:13:23)

The frustration is coming from the flood of ideas and suggestions that get ignored
and even countered by the staff. Sometimes players are greedy but thats only a
small part. For example my interest is to get balance and fairness in everything
and its just not gonna happen even that its basically possible. Not only the players
can be greedy.



xxmirxx -> RE: Today's Community (7/28/2011 20:15:33)

founders are usually ones who start it flamming. Soliqe was one who was involved in flamming as well. My favorite thread was ones were goldslayer makes always with logic. Flamming start when founders start say they deserve free buff and there reason was they took risk on ED. But there wasn't any other payment opinion only credit cards. I was one of few was against idea and start speak up against idea of buffs. Because many of my friends has pay over 500 dollars and there not founders. Now this my new offer were both party can't say unfair.
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I disagree angels you need plus 5 because by end of year top best armors will be plus 12. But I also think all armors should get payable buff time were they were introduced. So founders will have to wait to december same with space armor. I think thats fairest in all situation. But over course all of you think I stupid so my idea is just purely flamming.



Lenofor -> RE: Today's Community (7/28/2011 20:17:23)

I belive everyone wants something but as long as there is the unbalance of suggestions between varium, non varium and proud elitists an clash of ideas will happen

Ex: I see at least 2 treads a day from founders wanting buffs, paying to keep their armor on top forever, while diching non variums and saying that they do NOT have any say on the matter nor the right to complain to anything in the game (i fail to find such quote because the tread was deleted)



DeathGuard -> RE: Today's Community (7/28/2011 20:27:31)

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i agree
yes i have complained about some things but like seeing it pop up over and over again is annoying.
like the issue on lag. we alrdy talked about this before and always someone pops up like "omgz ED needs to fix this lagg"
then the issue on TLM being OPed. like im a CH and im gettin tired of seeing ppl complain about them.
look the ED staff are trying their best to make the game fun and fair for everyone and its not gonna be done any quicker if everyone keeps complaining
and i kno that the ED staff are gettin tired of this. everyday they come on to the forums and have to lock and delete these post.
so just make their lifes simplier and if u have sumthing to complain about either keep it to urself or give a sugguestion on how to fix it in the suggestion forum
I think Ch needs a buff more than Bm but too bad they're just focus in TLM

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The frustration is coming from the flood of ideas and suggestions that get ignored
and even countered by the staff. Sometimes players are greedy but thats only a
small part. For example my interest is to get balance and fairness in everything
and its just not gonna happen even that its basically possible. Not only the players
can be greedy.
A child do crazy things to bring the parent's attention so we flamed for the devs to pay us attention.

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founders are usually ones who start it flamming. Soliqe was one who was involved in flamming as well. My favorite thread was ones were goldslayer makes always with logic. Flamming start when founders start say they deserve free buff and there reason was they took risk on ED. But there wasn't any other payment opinion only credit cards. I was one of few was against idea and start speak up against idea of buffs. Because many of my friends has pay over 500 dollars and there not founders. Now this my new offer were both party can't say unfair.
You were a flamer back then mirx but is no reason that they flame you in return, you should not flame, you're doing just fine, keep suggesting ideas no matter if they criticize or flame you.

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I belive everyone wants something but as long as there is the unbalance of suggestions between varium, non varium and proud elitists an clash of ideas will happen
IT is always like that, that is the reality in real life my friend :/



xxmirxx -> RE: Today's Community (7/28/2011 20:27:52)

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while diching non variums and saying that they do NOThave any say on the matter nor the right to complain to anything in the game
thats very true statement and really annoying as well. Were not asking for free buff but if going buy varium we should have say. Because who says non varium shouldn't have say were ones fighting founders all time and treat like crap. Even myself I would get varium players say I suck or call me noob. Worst of all I am not bad player I am one of most hardest working players. Edit I never I was flamer but this wasn't about me.



redxtra -> RE: Today's Community (7/28/2011 20:31:07)

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I think Ch needs a buff more than Bm but too bad they're just focus in TLM


that is a good idea but like me im using a focus build everything is balanced and now that im lvl 33 i stand a decent chance against TLM winning 50% of my fights againsy them insted of 10%



Sipping Cider -> RE: Today's Community (7/28/2011 21:54:42)

I just think that it is hard for people to be passionate about an idea and still discuss it when they feel that they are not being heard. A lot of people will post an idea, and than when they get a reply that puts that idea down they get angry and try to put down that person who replied. And thus started the flaming wars so to speak. Otherwise, i agree with you. There are tons of threads created that are just flaming wars.



redxtra -> RE: Today's Community (7/28/2011 21:59:53)

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A lot of people will post an idea, and than when they get a reply that puts that idea down they get angry and try to put down that person who replied.


or they put down someone for commenting on a topic like one day when i sed sumthing about how the TLM i seen only have str builds and support build i got called stupid and retarded just because i was talkin about my experiences and wall basicly tellin the person the best way to fight against them was 2 join them or just 2v2



DeathGuard -> RE: Today's Community (7/28/2011 22:00:58)

@Sungardian: Yes that is something devs shouldn't do, the ignored players get ressenment and hate, with hate they won't triumph but harm the other's ideas and feelings too.



Sipping Cider -> RE: Today's Community (7/28/2011 22:32:50)

Actually, i was not talking about the Devs ignoring the players, but rather the players ignoring the players. However, if you feel that the Devs are ignoring you, that could be another reason that flaming starts. I must admit myself that i wish the Devs responded to all my posts so i could make sure they are acually reading them, but they have only so much time on their hand and so many posts are made each day.



Angels Holocaust -> RE: Today's Community (7/28/2011 22:41:03)

Whenever a thread about founders is made, the non variums and non founders violently attack them for no reason.



Sipping Cider -> RE: Today's Community (7/28/2011 22:46:32)

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Whenever a thread about founders is made, the non variums and non founders violently attack them for no reason.


This is a great example on how this happens. Someone could have made a post and gotten negative feedback so that is how they learn to post. Lets say Angelsholocaust made a thread about founders and a lot of people flamed it so now Angelsholocaust simply responds with what they did. Or vice versa and Angelsholocaust got negative feedback so Angelsholocaust started flaming those that responded to Angelsholocausts threads.



redxtra -> RE: Today's Community (7/28/2011 22:50:01)

@angels holocaust
well like the treads i seen its like they want to buff up their armor to compete against tesla and also like they keep asking for more free stuff. i kno that all founder arent like this but like its all that is said with founders and us non-founders get kinda amped up when theres topics about this cause it isnt fair to us. founders had their free item



Drianx -> RE: Today's Community (7/29/2011 3:03:08)

The community behavior endless debate has one solid solution: The Turn Off Chat Button. God I'm waiting for that one.

Font sized edited. Please don't use sizes bigger than 3. ~Mecha



Dendavex -> RE: Today's Community (7/29/2011 6:25:45)

Angels get this into your head FOUNDER ARE NOT GETTING BUFFED if you like founder armor use it noone is stopping you 1 problem if you keep 1 armor your bound to fail



DeathGuard -> RE: Today's Community (7/29/2011 12:36:48)

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Whenever a thread about founders is made, the non variums and non founders violently attack them for no reason

@Angels Holocaust: I have seen that, but the same goes for beta testers asking for a gift or nonvariums asking for new weps.



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